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How do the genophage and Krogan fertility actually work?


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The genophage is described in several different ways at different points in the series, and even within the same game. Mordin says that it alters Krogan fertility to make only 1/1000 eggs viable. 

But if this was the case, shouldn't all Krogan females be equally fertile, just producing 1 offspring per year rather than 1000? What's all this talk of fertile and infertile females?

Does it actually leave 1/1000 females fertile? Can those fertile females mentioned since ME2 produce the full 1000 births per year? 

Or do even the "fertile" females still only produce 1 viable offspring per year? If this is the case the genaphage would be reducing fertility to much less than 1/1000, so that seems unlikely.

 

 

Also, pre-genophage, did Krogan actually produce 1000 eggs per year? EDI and Mordin seem to think so, and they would know. 

 

But then you have the Krogan in ME2 talking about his son, singular. If he got a fertile female shouldn't he have hundreds? 

And you have Eve talking about holding her stillborn, singular. Shouldn't she have been holding a massive wad of stillborns?

Then you have Wrex mentioning his "unborn son" when he confronts you on the Citadel if you sabotage the cure. Again, singular.

And finally you have the epilogue showing post-genophage Krogans with their single child.

 

It seems whenever Bioware wants you to feel for the Krogan they turn them into Humans, producing a single offspring per year.

But the rest of the time Krogans are a blight that produce up to 1000 offspring per year. A number so outrageous that curing the genophage should be out of the question.

 

This makes it very hard to make an intelligent decision when it comes to curing or not curing the Genophage.

We don't have a clear picture of how Krogan fertility works, or how the genophage is supposed to work, so I guess I might as well cure it for the good feelings and extra Wrex content.

 

Am I missing something here? 


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Yes. Stop asking awkward questions.
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listen to yourself, you are indoctrinated. 


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@TroyK2027 - Go to the Lore Discussion forum and see my post under "Things that don't make sense." I just mentioned Krogan reproduction after seeing this thread. You may add to it.


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 How does anything work in Mass Effect?

 

 

A:  :wizard: 


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 How does anything work in Mass Effect?

 

 

A:  :wizard: 

 

 

mass effect fields

 

 

Indoctrination

 

 

or

 

A Wizard did it


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Shhhhh.....don't ask too many glaring questions.

 

At first in ME1, the genophage did not exactly affect the fertility of the krogan, but rather the probability of babies that manag to not end up as stillborns. They could still have babies, except not as many as pre-Genophage. And only at pre-industrial levels.

But then by ME3, Bioware changed it in order to tug at your emotional heartstrings for the sake of overdrama.


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WE just need Sparatus in here: "Ah yes, Genophage, we have dismissed that claim"

 

Slightly more serious:

Considering how often the description of Krogan fertility and the Genophage has changed, I begin to wonder if the Krogans themselves still know how reproduction actually works...

 

<awkward pause>

 

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Maybe the 1/1000 still fertile females now produce their eggs not all at once, but stretched over a year or so.


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No. Krogan females produce one clutch of 1000 eggs per year.

 

How many of those 1000 survive? Apparently a lot. Hence the genophage.

 

Long lived species + high reproductive rate + no natural predators = population disaster

 

I think the idea was that since Mordin's solution didn't "cure" the genophage but used different sites, it solved the stillborn problem, but didn't result in the massive population explosion. Who knows? Bioware never said.... except in the slides you kept seeing Krogan, and more Krogan... and more Krogan.



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The genophage is described in several different ways at different points in the series, and even within the same game. Mordin says that it alters Krogan fertility to make only 1/1000 eggs viable. 

But if this was the case, shouldn't all Krogan females be equally fertile, just producing 1 offspring per year rather than 1000? What's all this talk of fertile and infertile females?

Does it actually leave 1/1000 females fertile? Can those fertile females mentioned since ME2 produce the full 1000 births per year? 

Or do even the "fertile" females still only produce 1 viable offspring per year? If this is the case the genaphage would be reducing fertility to much less than 1/1000, so that seems unlikely.

 

 

Also, pre-genophage, did Krogan actually produce 1000 eggs per year? EDI and Mordin seem to think so, and they would know. 

 

But then you have the Krogan in ME2 talking about his son, singular. If he got a fertile female shouldn't he have hundreds? 

And you have Eve talking about holding her stillborn, singular. Shouldn't she have been holding a massive wad of stillborns?

Then you have Wrex mentioning his "unborn son" when he confronts you on the Citadel if you sabotage the cure. Again, singular.

And finally you have the epilogue showing post-genophage Krogans with their single child.

 

It seems whenever Bioware wants you to feel for the Krogan they turn them into Humans, producing a single offspring per year.

But the rest of the time Krogans are a blight that produce up to 1000 offspring per year. A number so outrageous that curing the genophage should be out of the question.

 

This makes it very hard to make an intelligent decision when it comes to curing or not curing the Genophage.

We don't have a clear picture of how Krogan fertility works, or how the genophage is supposed to work, so I guess I might as well cure it for the good feelings and extra Wrex content.

 

Am I missing something here? 

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