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[The Arbiter]

NO this is not a flame thread! no this is not a fanboy war thread and no this has nothing to do about Tali!

 

ok first of all I made this thread like what months ago? http://forum.bioware...ot-in-disguise/[please read here if you want to understand why I came up with this theory which I also hate]

the reason why I made this forum account is because ME3 is a freaking huge cliff hanger so I try to find answers.

 

But what if... what if... even if you don't want too, ASSUMING ARGUENDO Bioware takes the next MASS EFFECT as a Restart or a Reboot will you be Happy? Pissed? depressed? confused? or meh?

 

if they decide to take this path what do you think will happen to the franchise in the future? will be a flop? a success? or a huge gamble?

 

I don't want to repeat everything before that I have stated on why I came up with this theory heck I even spoke to the Ark theory creator.

 

So what would your reaction be?

 

also thanks to "themikefest" for advising me on creating this thread

 

OK PEOPLE GETTING CONFUSED HERE

 

1. Reboot -> a re-telling of the story but with a totally different outcome. same crew, same shepard, same plot, different conclusion

2. Restart -> No shepard, different crew, different plot, same galaxy, same elements, clean beginning.

[katamuro]

It really depends on what they actually do. 

if they do a reboot with new character, new enemies and no trace of the story we already know then that is simply an alternate universe. 

IF they restart the whole thing with Shepard, Reapers and all that but remade in a new way I would be a bit confused. After all we already know at least part of the story and it would require a major expansion and rework to convince me that it is actually a new game rather than an in-depth remaster of the old ones.

Generally though I would wait and see. 

[caradoc2000]

Definitely this:

Generally though I would wait and see.

[InterrogationBear]

ME:Next will be a soft reboot, similar to TNG and DS9. Same universe, but different time, place and cast.

[katamuro]

ME:Next will be a soft reboot, similar to TNG and DS9. Same universe, but different time, place and cast.

 

Considering that they have stayed within the timeline with plenty of references to things done in the past, they are not reboots. They are sequels.

[The Arbiter]

It really depends on what they actually do. 

if they do a reboot with new character, new enemies and no trace of the story we already know then that is simply an alternate universe. 

IF they restart the whole thing with Shepard, Reapers and all that but remade in a new way I would be a bit confused. After all we already know at least part of the story and it would require a major expansion and rework to convince me that it is actually a new game rather than an in-depth remaster of the old ones.

Generally though I would wait and see. 

Agreed... here's to hoping :x

[Drone223]

Your jumping to conclusions Bioware said nothing about a reboot or AU, but its unlikely either will happen since the franchise is still relatively young (first ME game isn't even 10 years old).

[dreamgazer]

Mass Effect: The Next Generation sounds fabulous, whatever category that falls into.

[Iakus]

Your jumping to conclusions Bioware said nothing about a reboot or AU, but its unlikely either will happen since the franchise is still relatively young (first ME game isn't even 10 years old).

They also said there is no canon ending.  GIven how divergent things are by the end of ME3, I don't see how they can make a sequel that is both coherent and   not at least a soft reboot

[katamuro]

They also said there is no canon ending.  GIven how divergent things are by the end of ME3, I don't see how they can make a sequel that is both coherent and   not at least a soft reboot

 

One of the things they might likely do, as a kind of soft reboot but not exactly is to say something like 

"Reaper war was fought X-many years ago but all the chaos that followed makes it hard to know what happened during those times." either as a codex entry or somehow else. 

Or they might simply do the the smart thing and retcon something. 

[Jaquio]

If they want to go in a totally different direction, their best bet may be to have the entire story take place in a different galaxy.

 

Of course, this would be problematic since they've already said that N7, the Krogan and humans are all involved in the story, but... I think there could be something in a storyline where a rogue ship with a zany crew and strange cargo is fleeing the Reapers, and comes across a hidden mass relay that jets them off into a different galaxy.  Then you have a random crew of this galaxy's races journeying about a completely new galaxy with new races, new star systems, new governments, etc.

 

It would probably be the safest option for them, because it would require no saves, no established canon ending, and would be a clean start.

[niniendowarrior]

Not a factor for me as I can't play their games anywhere.  They can do whatever they please.

[AlanC9]

I'm not quite sure what counts as a Restart, what counts as a Reboot, and what's neither.

[katamuro]

If they want to go in a totally different direction, their best bet may be to have the entire story take place in a different galaxy.

 

Of course, this would be problematic since they've already said that N7, the Krogan and humans are all involved in the story, but... I think there could be something in a storyline where a rogue ship with a zany crew and strange cargo is fleeing the Reapers, and comes across a hidden mass relay that jets them off into a different galaxy.  Then you have a random crew of this galaxy's races journeying about a completely new galaxy with new races, new star systems, new governments, etc.

 

It would probably be the safest option for them, because it would require no saves, no established canon ending, and would be a clean start.

 

And would require them to build a completely new galaxy with ALL new species and ALL new history. 

Also its just a cop-out. A very cheap way of getting out of the situation. It would make a lot more people angry than if they simply canonized something.

[Nitrocuban]

inb4 ark theory

[Winterking]

 

But what if... what if... even if you don't want too, ASSUMING ARGUENDO Bioware takes the next MASS EFFECT as a Restart or a Reboot will you be Happy? Pissed? depressed? confused? or meh?

 

 

Dissapointed, but I'll be happy if the game is good. I personally want a sequel. It doesn't has to have involve anyone from the Shepard trilogy.

I wouldn't mind a reimagining of the Shepard trilogy in 10 years from now but right now, I feel that they need to own up their ending and go forward with the franchise.

[AsheraII]

inb4 ark theory

Well, it is a possibility that they turn the MENext game into an ark by itself. We are visiting new regions in space, so it is entirely possible for the protagonist and his/her crew to get stranded in a remote region far away from any Mass Accellerators sending out mutating signals.

[The Arbiter]

Dissapointed, but I'll be happy if the game is good. I personally want a sequel. It doesn't has to have involve anyone from the Shepard trilogy.

I wouldn't mind a reimagining of the Shepard trilogy in 10 years from now but right now, I feel that they need to own up their ending and go forward with the franchise.

problem is... they won't... According to Bioware "no canon ending for ME3 yet we still respect player choices" I don't even see the logic behind that statement

[Balsam Beige]

If a sequel means; New writers trying to justify the garbage endings once again then no, I would prefer a reboot/restart, what ever you want to call it.

[The Arbiter]

If a sequel means; New writers trying to justify the garbage endings once again then no, I would prefer a reboot/restart, what ever you want to call it.

and I acknowledge that issue too. It would probably eat alot of resources trying to explain the past trilogy unless if they can come up with a straight forward solution to it without spending too much time making ME4 feel like ME3 but then again, that's the whole point of a sequel.

[nightcobra]

an adventure in an all new galaxy (far enough that communication with the milky way galaxy isn't possible) with all new races and a first contact kind of story would be awesome.

and then after the credits you return to the milky way galaxy only to find out they're still at war with the reapers and most of, if not all of humanity has fallen. shepard is either dead or a husk.

 

 

either that or mid way through the game the antagonist blows up all of the milky way.

that glowing brat will not have his way, his "choices" be damned. 

[katamuro]

and I acknowledge that issue too. It would probably eat alot of resources trying to explain the past trilogy unless if they can come up with a straight forward solution to it without spending too much time making ME4 feel like ME3 but then again, that's the whole point of a sequel.

 

I think they are not going to try explaining it. They are just going to move on probably talking as little as possible about the past. Another possibility is not not Ark theory(which i think is a bit wonky) but something like a multi-species effort, a small fleet sent out into unexplored relays to find something to fight the reapers with the game ending in return to the known systems after the war is over. I still wouldnt like it as much as a direct sequel but...

[katamuro]

an adventure in an all new galaxy (far enough that communication with the milky way galaxy isn't possible) with all new races and a first contact kind of story would be awesome.

and then after the credits you return to the milky way galaxy only to find out they're still at war with the reapers and most of, if not all of humanity has fallen. shepard is either dead or a husk.

 

 

either that or mid way through the game the antagonist blows up all of the milky way.

that glowing brat will not have his way, his "choices" be damned. 

 

Then its not mass effect game. True the game takes its name from the bit of technology allowing for FTL, weapons and other stuff but its strength is in its setting. All the species, all the history. Without them especially with the ending you propose its a ME clone at best and "Generic Action scifi example C" at worst. And believe me if they did something as harebrained as this I reckon the game would be set for 2015 holiday release.

[wright1978]

Right now the ark theory seems like it'll fit the problems best of the suggestions i've heard. It certainly wouldn't be a completely elegant solution but it would allow them to take members of the core races, take them somewhere untouched by the endings and allow them to introduce new races. Without a canon i don't see how they could accommodate all 3 endings in a milky way based sequel.(Though i suppose the further you set date-wise it the easier it is to explain converging futures). A midquel sounds awful imo, who would want to get invested in a story set whilst galactic armageddon is going on. A Prequel is very limited in setting if humans are to remain the likely focus. A full reboot where Shep, reapers, all characters we know, all events we know don't happen would seem utterly bizarre and horrible imo.

[KaiserShep]

If the Mass Effect series was something that existed on SNES or as an old PC game in the 90's, then sure, a remake might sound grand, but it's far too advanced/recent to not seem like a horrible rehash.

 

Anyway, I guess I benefit a bit from being fairly distant from the ending and how it affects stories set in the future, because I honestly have zero issue with just moving on into the future in the same galaxy and just having some mild reference to the past to assemble the whole thing. If the story is decent and I like the PC and love the characters and their respective stories, which is usually the big draw anyway, then I think it should work out OK. But then I don't have the deep wounds inflicted on others by the original ending. All in all it's tantamount to a reboot without seeming like a rehash and carrying minimal baggage from the original series.

 

As for the ark theory, they'd might as well just scrap the whole universe and write a new IP from scratch, because a new galaxy is simply not Mass Effect.