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[StealthGamer92]

I would hate it, but it wouldn't necesarily be their fault. I am just tired of all the shows and games that've been hitting the reset button here lately. It has made me get to the point I just ignore anything that I percieve as a reboot, reset, restart or whatever the maker is useing. I just see it as another unimagitive person trying to use an already succesful name to make money, even if the final product is good it's always tainted by the amount of reboots released for me.

[Finlandiaprkl]

That would make no sense on any POV.

 

They have started a strong franchise, so why would they suddenly tear it all down and practically undo 8+ years of development?

 

Same goes for the universe. Why would they suddenly change it all?

[The Arbiter]

I would hate it, but it wouldn't necesarily be their fault. I am just tired of all the shows and games that've been hitting the reset button here lately. It has made me get to the point I just ignore anything that I percieve as a reboot, reset, restart or whatever the maker is useing. I just see it as another unimagitive person trying to use an already succesful name to make money, even if the final product is good it's always tainted by the amount of reboots released for me.

yeah me too :c I just hope they won't go down this road but it's their game... so yeah

 

 

That would make no sense on any POV.

 

They have started a strong franchise, so why would they suddenly tear it all down and practically undo 8+ years of development?

 

Same goes for the universe. Why would they suddenly change it all?

I like your profile pic though

[Balsam Beige]

Well then I guess we disagree on what we consider a fictional universe if it has to use a particular name. I would consider that a scifi using mass effect themes, inspired by mass effect but not mass effect.

A sci-fi using mass effect themes, inspired by mass effect with a well written story and plot. Interesting characters and aliens with emphasis on exploration and maybe a little less human centric. I could get behind this.

The ip has so much potential.

[Dr. Rush]

I don't understand the point of a reboot. A franchise is only rebooted when it is bad or old. Mass Effect is new and good. Rebooting it would be a gigantic waste of resources. All the time, money, energy and talent that went into creating all the alien species, cultures, architecture, etc. 

 

I think the only people consider a reboot an option is because they don't think Bioware can continue the series after the ending of ME3. But frankly, I think it would be a huge waste to reboot a series that is only 8 years old. 

[Tex]

I don't want a restart or reboot. I just want to move past the events of the trilogy and not have the writers be beholden to the millions upon millions of divergent world (galaxy) states that were created by each individual player. I want them to move forward in time so this will involve some degree of minimizing the choices a player has previously made. They can't be expected to make 3 different games based on RGB let alone all the thousands of other tiny and not so tiny choices from the trilogy so I'm saying people need to let go of the idea that they are going to get a direct sequel with all their choices imported into the game. People need to let go of their galaxy state is what I'm saying.
 
As for the asari, I'm personally really bored of practically every alien female in the galaxy being an asari and having Liara as the unofficial #1 squadmate (maybe she shares it with Garrus but she certainly gets all the Bioware love story-wise) just makes me want something different. I still like the council races, I just want more new and exciting things. You make it sound like there is so much more to learn about the asari/turians/salarians/krogan/quarians and maybe there is but it depends on the writers' ability to introduce new lore which has inexplicably never been revealed before after having them as squadmates and central characters in the trilogy's narrative and extended universe of books/comics/movies. I'm not saying we abandon them altogether and I'm not really a proponent of ark theory (although I'm not dead set against it) but they need to keep Mass Effect fresh with new planets, new species and new stories.
 
My opinion is - I absolutely do not want to reboot, restart or in anyway rehash any of the story-lines covered in the trilogy. This includes first contact, the protheans, the reapers, the relays or any of the personal "this is the story of my civilization" stories from squadmates that have already been covered.

Ah thank you for explaining your side sorry for the mixup.

[Iakus]

New?  Maybe.

 

Good?  Not for a lot of people after ME3.

 

Besides which, it's not just bad, but overly divergent.  you can't go forward any further without either trivializing the trilogy or running away from it.

[luckybaer]

I think there will not be a reboot or anything like that.  It will be a sequel in the same galaxy that will have to deal with the impact of the conclusion of Mass Effect 3.  

 

For example, without Shepard or a more "progressive" Krogan leader (like Wrex and/or Eve), how do the Krogan end up interacting with other species in the galaxy - tension with Salarians, Turians, etc.

 

What about storylines that could develop from exploring whichever members of Shepards crew crash-landed on that lush-looking planet?

 

Will the Quarian ever reclaim their homeworld?

 

What new threat will arise?

 

Cerberus?  Completely gone, or beefing up?

 

How does Earth bounce back from being ravaged by Reapers?

 

Tuchanka?  Were the Krogans successful in turning their radiation-ravaged home planet into something a little more lush and productive?

 

Important, but not-yet-fully-explored species - Batarians and Vorcha.  Did they escape Mass Effect 3 relatively unscathed?  Do they jump into any power vacuum created by Turian, Krogan, Asari, Salarian, Human losses?

 

A reboot or restart would be pretty frustrating and would, to me, be throwing away so much potential and continuity.

[Quarian Master Race]

Besides which, it's not just bad, but overly divergent.  you can't go forward any further without either trivializing the trilogy or running away from it.

The first point is opinion. As for the second, sure you can. Every species that could have survived did. Destroy ending canon.

Sure, it would rustle some jimmies, but so did the same thing happening with KOTOR. 2nd one was still a good game. Deal with it.

Don't like it? That's what headcanon is for. It's far worse that everyone suffers with a vauge, disjointed and poor sequel or idiotic reboot because of trying to appease every single minority.

[KroganChiken]

ME:Next will be a soft reboot, similar to TNG and DS9. Same universe, but different time, place and cast.

 

So, could we see Jean-Luc Picard again!?!?!

 

 

YEEEEAAAAAHHH!!!!

[Iakus]

The first point is opinion. As for the second, sure you can. Every species that could have survived did. Destroy ending canon.

Sure, it would rustle some jimmies, but so did the same thing happening with KOTOR. 2nd one was still a good game. Deal with it.

Don't like it? That's what headcanon is for. It's far worse that everyone suffers with a vauge, disjointed and poor sequel or idiotic reboot because of trying to appease every single minority.

That it's bad or not is opinion.  That the endings are highly controversial and sharply divides the fan base is not.

 

They also are highly divergent.  Just RGB alone leads to several dramatically different and mutually exclusive outcomes.  

 

Also they are not going to canonize Destroy.  Or any other ending.  It has been explicitly said "no canon ending"  This means one of four possibilities:

 

 

"Ark Theory" or whatever where they simply leave the galaxy behind or go far into the future.  Either way, running away from the consequences

 

A "Mass Effect Keep" which charts certain choices made.  This means your choices will be trivialized or possibly outright retconned, like "Councilor Udina"  In addition, there will be severe constraints on what kind of stories can be told.  No Krogan quarian or geth companions ever again, for example.   

 

Hard reboot:  The trilogy never happened.  Reboot/AU/whatever you want to call it

 

Soft Reboot:  "The Reapers attacked.  Commander Shepard saved us all.  Now let's never speak of it again"  Nothing is canonized save that.  No cameos.  No statues.  Nothing.

 

Deal with it.

[katamuro]

Soft Reboot, Hard reboot and ark theory is all the same, running away from the mess that was handed to them. I think the soft reboot as you describe it is probably the most likely one but I would like to see the ME keep analog.

[The Arbiter]

Soft Reboot, Hard reboot and ark theory is all the same, running away from the mess that was handed to them. I think the soft reboot as you describe it is probably the most likely one but I would like to see the ME keep analog.

Hey man I know you are upset... same as me. But I think even if I don't want to think I still think... Bioware is indeed running away if not, to justify their cause "END MASS EFFECT WITH 3".

[SolNebula]

Tbh if they just say a 1000 years ago Shepard saved the day and defeated the reapers, i would be fine. No further mention, no cameos.....just new story and contents. The 1000 years also helped in bringing innovations and new races to the franchise. Offering us a galaxy with our beloved races mixed with new things to keep everything fresh. Aside from the endings though they will have to deal with the other choices. That is why i think a ME Keep is going to happen.

[katamuro]

Hey man I know you are upset... same as me. But I think even if I don't want to think I still think... Bioware is indeed running away if not, to justify their cause "END MASS EFFECT WITH 3".

 

I am having a hard time understanding what you are trying to say. Maybe because I haven't had my morning coffee yet which I am going to get soon but could you expand?

[Son of Shepherd]

That it's bad or not is opinion.  That the endings are highly controversial and sharply divides the fan base is not.

 

They also are highly divergent.  Just RGB alone leads to several dramatically different and mutually exclusive outcomes.  

 

Also they are not going to canonize Destroy.  Or any other ending.  It has been explicitly said "no canon ending"  This means one of four possibilities:

 

 

"Ark Theory" or whatever where they simply leave the galaxy behind or go far into the future.  Either way, running away from the consequences

 

A "Mass Effect Keep" which charts certain choices made.  This means your choices will be trivialized or possibly outright retconned, like "Councilor Udina"  In addition, there will be severe constraints on what kind of stories can be told.  No Krogan quarian or geth companions ever again, for example.   

 

Hard reboot:  The trilogy never happened.  Reboot/AU/whatever you want to call it

 

Soft Reboot:  "The Reapers attacked.  Commander Shepard saved us all.  Now let's never speak of it again"  Nothing is canonized save that.  No cameos.  No statues.  Nothing.

 

Deal with it.

I'd love them to canonize destroy but I've accepted it isn't going to happen. People need to let it go. One of those four possibilities seems certain to me.

 

Can I just say though, how disappointed would we all be if they had actually left ME behind after 3 and made no more? Thank god they realised what gold they have. They dropped an IP to concentrate on ME and other games. And for that we should be excited. We're going to get more Mass Effect people 

[The Arbiter]

I am having a hard time understanding what you are trying to say. Maybe because I haven't had my morning coffee yet which I am going to get soon but could you expand?

You know Bioware being shady and all and may attempt to dotch everything

[katamuro]

You know Bioware being shady and all and may attempt to dotch everything

 

Or an attempt to try doing what they think might be the right thing by doing a sequel but trying to avoid the backlash of people who would disapprove. After all the marketing and EA people might try to get them do what they think is right again if they think it won't sell well otherwise. 

I am just trying to stay positive.

[SerriceIceDandy]

People need to let go of their galaxy state is what I'm saying.

 
Yes, this. The amount of people whining that they didn't get any closure and blue babies with 'their Shepard'. I get it, immersion really gets it's teeth into you via ME. But is your save state so important; so much more important than everybody else's; that you'd rather we play through established lore and experience nothing (majorly) new, so your Shepard doesn't end. The ME Universe is of Bioware's creation, so they can do whatever the hell they want with it.  Just be glad we had a trilogy where we could forge our own stories within in it.
 

As for the asari, I'm personally really bored of practically every alien female in the galaxy being an asari and having Liara as the unofficial #1 squadmate (maybe she shares it with Garrus but she certainly gets all the Bioware love story-wise) just makes me want something different. I still like the council races, I just want more new and exciting things. You make it sound like there is so much more to learn about the asari/turians/salarians/krogan/quarians and maybe there is but it depends on the writers' ability to introduce new lore which has inexplicably never been revealed before after having them as squadmates and central characters in the trilogy's narrative and extended universe of books/comics/movies. I'm not saying we abandon them altogether and I'm not really a proponent of ark theory (although I'm not dead set against it) but they need to keep Mass Effect fresh with new planets, new species and new stories.

 

My opinion is - I absolutely do not want to reboot, restart or in anyway rehash any of the story-lines covered in the trilogy. This includes first contact, the protheans, the reapers, the relays or any of the personal "this is the story of my civilization" stories from squadmates that have already been covered.

Basically, yes to everything. I'm aware that the lack of female character models was budget constraints blah blah blah, but that need not necessarily be true now with the increased processing power of current gen.

And maybe an Asari Sentinel or Vanguard instead of Adepts etc to break the mould of race typecasting amongst squadmates as well as background characters.  

[goishen]

I'm really interested in what this new IP is.  Of course, like one youtuber (mdgamer83 (gamermd83?) I think) said, I think they're working on two new IP's.  The first new IP is the super secretive one, and the other new IP is the now defunct Shadow Realms.  And god love ya twitter and BioWare, but you sure have a love affair...   They are not the same IP according to one of BioWare's tweets.

 

Anyway, back on topic.   What Iakus said above are the most logical combinations of the scenario.  The last two are not really plausible, but they are still in fact possible.  This, of course, is my opinion. 

 

Ya know, it's not like they're giving us much to go on here, so we're kind'a scraping the bottom of the barrel here. 

[Balsam Beige]

 A "Mass Effect Keep" which charts certain choices made.  This means your choices will be trivialized or possibly outright retconned, like "Councilor Udina"  In addition, there will be severe constraints on what kind of stories can be told.  No Krogan quarian or geth companions ever again, for example.   

This^

Limit the new writers just to see a statue of Shepard in the Citadel. Creates more issues then what it's worth, in my opinion.

[Tonymac]

Sometimes I think they should just re-make ME3 and do it right, but even if they did that, I still wouldn't pre-order it.

[themikefest]

Sometimes I think they should just re-make ME3 and do it right, but even if they did that, I still wouldn't pre-order it.

ME3 is a standalone game that was made to bring in new players.  They can make another ME3 for the folks that played ME1/ME2 before ME3 was released

[The Arbiter]

ME3 is a standalone game that was made to bring in new players.  They can make another ME3 for the folks that played ME1/ME2 before ME3 was released

I was a victim of this... I started with ME3... worst decision of my life then I found out about ME2 with different possibilities of recruiting your teams which was scrapped to "accommodate new players" wtf... if EA is responsible for these issues I don't want it with ME:N so just they can attract "COD players" I used to remember when games came with "instructions or booklets" which forces you to learn the lore and mechanics not spoon feeding everyone with tantrums

 

the reason on how I got into Mass Effect was because of my Cousin and I never really paid attention to the commercials and ad marketing of ME in the past because I thought of it as "mediocre" which I horribly regret to this day.

[katamuro]

I was a victim of this... I started with ME3... worst decision of my life then I found out about ME2 with different possibilities of recruiting your teams which was scrapped to "accommodate new players" wtf... if EA is responsible for these issues I don't want it with ME:N so just they can attract "COD players" I used to remember when games came with "instructions or booklets" which forces you to learn the lore and mechanics not spoon feeding everyone with tantrums

 

the reason on how I got into Mass Effect was because of my Cousin and I never really paid attention to the commercials and ad marketing of ME in the past because I thought of it as "mediocre" which I horribly regret to this day.

 

EA has learned, kinda. They gave the DA team time to create DAI(not enough it seems, it was buggy as hell) and they are giving the new ME team time to create the game.