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[TurianRebel212]

That's the Nanny State of UK at it's finest.

[Fidite Nemini]

I am honestly surprised to see this wasn't about US or Australian schools.

 

 

That said, neither would I be surprised if said school principals may get a visit from the men and women in blue, because threatening police intervention without proper reason is exactly that: a threat, a.k.a. a punishable offense.

 

That said said, however misguided the execution of this whole farce is, the central intent is important: too many parents omit the parenting part and are, either willfully or neglectfully, ignorant about what their kids do. That includes filtering videogames to make sure your kid plays games s/he's mature enough to play. Note the use of "mature enough" as opposed to "old enough". ESRB/PEGI/USK etc. pp. are recommendations, not regulations. They are only legally binding to retailers that are forbidden to sell products to underage customers. Some kids can play games like GTA/CoD/whatever because they're mature enough to know what's what. other kids that are technically old enough to play the games may not be mature enough to properly handle the content.

I can proudly say that my parents did a fine job with me and I was allowed to play games that I was technically underage for, provided my parents knew what the game was like and that my grades in school were good.

 

So far I have not run amok, molested women, gotten in bouts with the law or even started a fight with people. I was led to believe those are characteristics of a decent person.

 

Maybe the school principals should focus on teaching proper morals in school, so they won't have to try teaching those a cuple decades later when those kids start having their own, because that sounds like they failed to fulfill their purpose in the first place.

[Ibn_Shisha]

Can't wait till Carmageddon:Reincarnation console port comes out (if it ever does

[KingTony]

Oh, of course this is in England.

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

*calls SWAT team to deal with you mature gamers*

[Fast Jimmy]

I am honestly surprised to see this wasn't about US or Australian schools.


That said, neither would I be surprised if said school principals may get a visit from the men and women in blue, because threatening police intervention without proper reason is exactly that: a threat, a.k.a. a punishable offense.

That said said, however misguided the execution of this whole farce is, the central intent is important: too many parents omit the parenting part and are, either willfully or neglectfully, ignorant about what their kids do. That includes filtering videogames to make sure your kid plays games s/he's mature enough to play. Note the use of "mature enough" as opposed to "old enough". ESRB/PEGI/USK etc. pp. are recommendations, not regulations. They are only legally binding to retailers that are forbidden to sell products to underage customers. Some kids can play games like GTA/CoD/whatever because they're mature enough to know what's what. other kids that are technically old enough to play the games may not be mature enough to properly handle the content.
I can proudly say that my parents did a fine job with me and I was allowed to play games that I was technically underage for, provided my parents knew what the game was like and that my grades in school were good.

So far I have not run amok, molested women, gotten in bouts with the law or even started a fight with people. I was led to believe those are characteristics of a decent person.

Maybe the school principals should focus on teaching proper morals in school, so they won't have to try teaching those a cuple decades later when those kids start having their own, because that sounds like they failed to fulfill their purpose in the first place.

This assumes that playing video games influences negative behaviors amongst kids. Which is statistically proven to not be true.

[o Ventus]

I find it odd that of the two "people taking offense at video games" threads we've had in the last day or so, the one that seems to be actual news has stalled at two pages, while the one that was just about some person on Twitter acting crazy got into double digits. That probably says something, although I'm not entirely sure what.

 

Anyway, while many parents undoubtedly let their children play games they probably shouldn't, it certainly isn't against the law by any stretch of the imagination, so if the principals do try and report it to the police, I can't see them being taken even remotely seriously.

 

The other topic was created earlier, so it had more time to garner traffic. It's also an entirely separate issue. Beyond "someone getting mad at a video game", they don't have anything in common. This issue is about a school threatening legal action to parents who let their kids play adult games, the other was about a hashtag campaign to get Obsidian to change PoE.

[Cyonan]

I'd just laugh at the principal as parents buying video games for their kids to play is not illegal. If you called the police here with "They bought GTAV for their kid!" they would tell you to stop wasting their time.

 

I'd argue that parents should make a better attempt at the whole parenting thing in a lot of cases, but this sort of thing is neither the school's nor the police's business.

[AresKeith]

I can see the police laughing at the principals

[Cyonan]

I can see the police laughing at the principals

 

To be honest, I can see everybody laughing at the principal.

[The Jackal]

It's disturbing they would even try to use a threat against the parents. They should be able raise their kid however they want. If some want let their kids play video games that has adult content, that's not the end of the world. By making it forbidden your making them want it even more. This should be seen as an attack on parent's on how they raise their kids. Where do they draw the line.

[SlottsMachine]

David Gaider triggers some random psychos. 

 

I can't believe he apologized for that. 

[Draining Dragon]

Gotta love the nanny state. Sadly, there are always people who think the government knows better than parents when it comes to kids. Even more sadly, these people sometimes manage to get in charge.

[B.A. Broska]

Personally I think School Principals have bigger issues that they should be focusing on, like dealing with bullying and abuse within the schoolyard.

[Fidite Nemini]

This assumes that playing video games influences negative behaviors amongst kids. Which is statistically proven to not be true.

 

It has also been statistically proven.

 

The simple fact is that statistics are worth a wet fart and that science is still not sure about it.

[SmilesJA]

It has also been statistically proven.

 

The simple fact is that statistics are worth a wet fart and that science is still not sure about it.

 

Sadly even some gamers believe that games can influence negative behavior amongst kids.

[Fidite Nemini]

Sadly even some gamers believe that games can influence negative behavior amongst kids.

 

 

To make my personal opinion on this clear:

 

Games are an outlet. That involves emotions. For example, a plethora of statistics correlate aggressive people playing violent videogames. They draw the conclusion that violent videogames make people aggressive. Other statistics said that aggressive people play violent videogames because it can serve as a vent, meaning they are beneficial for them.

 

And whilst the former pretty much is a loaded approach, the latter can likewise not claim certain proof, nor can they claim that venting aggression is the only motivation/result.

 

Another aspect that is commonly discussed is desensitization. Constant exposure to things desensitizes, that is a proven fact, It obviously also applies to videogames. What people are unsure about however is how a person's perception of things inside a videogame works in regards to desensitization. Does constant exposure to virtual violence only desensitize virtual violence, or does it bleed through perception and applies to real violence aswell? Again, some statistics say that it effects both virtuality and reality, whilst other statistics say people make a clear distinction between virtuality and reality.

 

It also doesn't help that most such research is biased thanks to the controversy and medial aswell as political attention.

 

 

 

What I however can and will likely never understand is how people can be so incredibly hypocritical and try to single out games as a scapegoat for what ultimately comes down to nothing more than neglecting parenting (parents are supposed to parent their children, it's in the name ffs), especially when accepted everyday media like television, the internet, etc. pp. involve material of the same violent, vulgar type get a free pass.

 

 

 

In short:

Games are nothing more than the currently trending scapegoat for what is failure to properly supervise and educate children. Before games it was music, before music it was comics, before comics it was books, before books it was the devil. People always look out for a bloody excuse to mask their own ineptitude and trying to shift blame, because the society (and especially me!!!! I never make mistakes!) can't be at fault, never ever ...

[o Ventus]

David Gaider triggers some random psychos. 

 

I can't believe he apologized for that. 

 

I think English-speaking countries could do with the word "trigger" being cut from the language. It's never used properly in this context anymore. Now, anyone who is the slightest bit offended by anything can say "this triggered me!" and a horde of SJWs will rally behind them.

[Cyonan]

I think English-speaking countries could do with the word "trigger" being cut from the language. It's never used properly in this context anymore. Now, anyone who is the slightest bit offended by anything can say "this triggered me!" and a horde of SJWs will rally behind them.

 

Cutting the word trigger out of the language isn't going to change that.

 

It's apparently just some terrible thing to offend somebody these days, regardless of the fact that pretty much anything you say can be interpreted as offensive by somebody.

 

I'm pretty sure somebody somewhere would claim that even not saying anything to them would "trigger them" and not be making the claim just to make fun of the SJWs.

[SlottsMachine]

I think English-speaking countries could do with the word "trigger" being cut from the language. It's never used properly in this context anymore. Now, anyone who is the slightest bit offended by anything can say "this triggered me!" and a horde of SJWs will rally behind them.

 

True enough. I pray that most of the time it is used in a joking manner though. 

[Draining Dragon]

[X Equestris]

Personally I think School Principals have bigger issues that they should be focusing on, like dealing with bullying and abuse within the schoolyard.

You'd think. And surely police have better things to do than...this.