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So what's the deal with the subscriber elitism on the SWTOR forums?


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Neverwinter_Knight77

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I've never seen anything like it. I lurk there occasionally (not allowed to post) because I'm *gasp* F2P. Whenever I read posts asking about the possibility of opening the forums up to everybody, every single reply is somebody flipping their ****, saying "NOOOO!! Keep those scum off my forums!" I honestly do not get it, man. It makes no sense to me. We could add a lot of positive contributions to the forum conversations. I don't know why they turn their noses up at us. All I've got as an alternative for talking about that game is its GameFAQs board, which seems to have pretty low traffic. Hell, I think GameFAQs is basically dead all over, these days.
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mousestalker

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If they allow the hoi polloi to post, where will the aristos go to feel exclusive?

#snobsnobsnob

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A Crusty Knight Of Colour

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>MMO communities

Whether it's WoW, SWTOR, TESO or Guild Wars, you're guaranteed to find your fair share of crap.

The progression of the SWTOR forum community has been interesting though. I like to joke about how BSN is cancer but the SWTOR community makes this one seem pretty tame at times.
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Kaiser Shepard

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Guards, arrest this peasant!


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Every community has their elitists.

 

On the WoW forums, there's a group of people who think they're better than everybody else because they played during vanilla(otherwise known as the game before any expansions came out).



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Every community has their elitists.

 

On the WoW forums, there's a group of people who think they're better than everybody else because they played during vanilla(otherwise known as the game before any expansions came out).

And those are some very large and heavily tampered rose tinted glasses they're wearing at that. 


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What's up with elitism in general?
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Voxr

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^^^^^^^^^^^^Pleb alert


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Dobby

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Bungie forums are scary and mean too. 



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A Crusty Knight Of Colour

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^^^^^^^^^^^^Pleb alert


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Dio Demon

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Guards, arrest this peasant!

Peasants, arrest this guard!


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Jeremiah12LGeek

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If the content of the general chat is anything to go by, rage-filled douchebags are vastly over-represented among the subscribers on SWTOR, so it's doubtful that the tone of the forums would be harmed by the change.

 

But it won't happen, and it has nothing to do with the subscribers' desires. It's a question of reducing the site population/traffic, and limiting overhead by reducing the number of staff running SWOTOR and the site. That's the same reason they will not offer any kind of tech support, or even communicate with F2P players in any way shape or form. To do so, they'd have to hire more tech support staff, moderators, and site administrators.

 

That's not to say that the opinions of the subscribers on the issue isn't troubling, if it is indeed as hostile towards non-subscribers as you make it sound. But their opinions are irrelevant, because they will never have any impact on the decision of whether or not the forums will be accessible to non-subscribers.

 

To a much lesser extent, TBF have been constructed and managed with a similar goal in mind - to reduce traffic on the site and limit access. Many forums are read-only to members who do not have a paid copy of the game associated with their account in some way, for example.


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Texhnolyze101

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Nothing beats the BSN in terms of elitism.


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Peasants, arrest this guard!

 


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https://youtu.be/sySC3TamNNY?t=2m57s

 

Also, I can't enter and post in a thread with "what's the deal" in the title without posting this:

 

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It's because the forums would be filled with constant spam posts, such as those by gold sellers, as is the case with general chat since the introduction of F2P accounts.

 

Secondarily, allowing people to make unlimited new accounts for posting purposes is a spectacularly bad idea for any game with pvp content, for obvious reasons.



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ApocAlypsE007

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It's either a harsh Team Liquid style modderation or this. Guess what takes less effort.



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Neverwinter_Knight77

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Speaking of free players, I know that you can buy a lot of unlocks from the GTN, such as playable races, Legacy Speeder Piloting III, character title privileges, various cartel market items and dyes, etc. Is it possible to buy the ability to send mail on the GTN? I mean, for some reason, earning credits is extremely difficult for the first chapter and a half, but then when you get to Hoth, you're suddenly loaded. It's not balanced very well. For this reason, my high-level characters have creds burning a hole in their pockets, while my new characters have to scrape by on less than minimum wage.

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Neverwinter_Knight77

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Wait a minute. Hold the phone. They made Full Auto a Commando-only ability? Who came up with that harebrained idea? That was my favorite trooper ability! I just found out about this a minute ago with my newly-created trooper.

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CassandraSaturn's Ring

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, my high-level characters have creds burning a hole in their pockets, while my new characters have to scrape by on less than minimum wage.

 

Sounds about right.



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It doesn't seem that off to me in comparison to the requirements for joining Neogaf. Where one must sacrifice ones firstborn to the gods, before travelling to the lands of Mordor and cast the one ring into the fires of Mount Doom from whence it came.



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Are you playing Pubside? That's the reason. 



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This is the mindset you got there at the TOR forums. 


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It doesn't seem that off to me in comparison to the requirements for joining Neogaf. Where one must sacrifice ones firstborn to the gods, before travelling to the lands of Mordor and cast the one ring into the fires of Mount Doom from whence it came.

 

That part is easy, you just need a university or work email. The hard part is not getting banned.



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TheChris92

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That part is easy, you just need a university or work email. The hard part is not getting banned.

Then you need to wait a week or months, so the mods can do a careful check, involving, checking your teeth, bobbing your scrotum and decide whether you're yuppie enough to gain access.