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Why were Dragoons introduced for Cerberus?


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#51
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Tsk, tsk, bauzabauza, a new space wizard avatar but no ME content? Reported!  :D  

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Here ya go, fixed it.  :P

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you did cry :crying: an old Space Wizard :wizard: my friend, fool  ;)



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Wouldn't you get sick of sitting on the sidelines the whole time watching your teammates have all the fun?

Seriously, though, Dragoons are major pushovers (unless there's 3+ in cqc with you...then things might get hairy). They're easy to hit as they approach and you can usually sidestep them at least once before the hornet **** hits the fan.



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In certain lag situations they're impossible to hit when moving unless you've got an AoE weapon. Skip, skip, skip go the animations as they teleport like amped up banshees across the map. Stupid goons.
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#53
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I thought Reapers should get this monsters from Omega DLC but they could not make it work in the end?



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Banshees..... the second most annoying unit in the game (outside of collectors and second to bombers) There is no way to CC banshees at all (Other 'bosses' can be hacked or stasis-ed... and I hardly consider a brute a boss), there is no easy way to put distance between you and the Banshee, and Banshees don't set off traps 9 times out of 10.... The only reason they aren't as annoying as bombers is the fact that you KNOW when a banshee is coming and you KNOW if it is coming for you, as they are the single most obvious enemy in the game (the atlas's smoke at least allows you to hope its a centurion)... and bombers get my top spot because they are hard to see (I can see cloaked phantoms easier than bombers), impossible to avoid, and very hard to avoid damage from...

Pick Juggy

equip decent weapon

get close and stop her

fire into face

when she prepares to throw warp -> siege pulse so she cancels and puts up hand

fire into face

repeat



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People wouldn't play vs. Cerberus anymore.

 

I don't really understand why people choose to anyway... unless they actually enjoy frustration.


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Wouldn't you get sick of sitting on the sidelines the whole time watching your teammates have all the fun?

 

Seriously, though, Dragoons are major pushovers (unless there's 3+ in cqc with you...then things might get hairy). They're easy to hit as they approach and you can usually sidestep them at least once before the hornet **** hits the fan.

 

 

 

Sounds like sum ppl need to l2currybiggergunz :P

 

Dragoons, in and of themselves, are not the problem.

 

The problem is that, on gold anyway, you get 2 'goons + 1 Phantom together (or multiples thereof) - this means you can have all the fun of 'goonstagger > shanked. Happens with Atlas rockets too incidentally.

 

The best tactic; take a Krogan Soldier with a Striker and Incendiary rounds - stagger, burn and nuke the whole frigging faction until you feel better! It is also perfectly acceptable to use Cobra missiles on Turrets.



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I don't really understand why people choose to anyway... unless they actually enjoy frustration.

Because they have by far the most satisfying headsplats?


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Because they have by far the most satisfying headsplats?

 

Wrong - Collectors have them beat there :P


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I don't really understand why people choose to anyway... unless they actually enjoy frustration.

 

I don't think there's any faction that's problematic or frustrating. I mean, the game is easy as it is. 



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Neutral good: Dragoons were added to make all enemy factions more versatile and challenging for players.

 

Neutral: Dragoons were added to prevent or at least make Cerberus camping more difficult. And for good reason (Stasis effect with Cerberus).

 

Neutral evil: Dragoons were added simply to irritate us all.

 

That being said, this whole Dragoon issue could be worse. Like it was just after they had added it. You literally got nearly endless waves of Dragoons make suicides runs during certain gold waves. Ad that was because Dragoon spawns were yet capped per waves. Luckily they capped the though.



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Neutral good: Dragoons were added to make all enemy factions more versatile and challenging for players.

 

Neutral: Dragoons were added to prevent or at least make Cerberus camping more difficult. And for good reason (Stasis effect with Cerberus).

 

Neutral evil: Dragoons were added simply to irritate us all.

 

That being said, this whole Dragoon issue could be worse. Like it was just after they had added it. You literally got nearly endless waves of Dragoons make suicides runs during certain gold waves. Ad that was because Dragoon spawns were yet capped per waves. Luckily they capped the though.

 

 

Chaotic evil:  ME3_Claymore_Shotgun.png


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Chaotic evil:  ME3_Claymore_Shotgun.png

 

Or you could call it Lawful Good. Laying down the order.  :P

 

Chaotic evil is probably the Reegar  


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I don't really understand why people choose to anyway... unless they actually enjoy frustration.

Sending troopers flying with krogan heavy melee or exploding a phantom's head with the claymore are both good reasons to pick cerberus, as far as I'm concerned.

OT : Goons are easily dealt with most kits. They will always roll when you shoot at them, and thus they will become perfect targets. On the other hand, they are a pain in the ass if you play a low HP kit, mostly because of their frelon.

All in all, it was not a bad idea to add them to cerberus for the reasons (a stasis proof unit, fast and resilient to flush the player out of cover) others bsners have already mentioned. The problem resides in their ability to insta-switch from melee to frelon and endlessly spawn during objectives waves.



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Or you could call it Lawful Good. Laying down the order.  :P

 

Chaotic evil is probably the Reegar  

 

I totally hate that alignment. Lawful good characters are the most nauseating thing in D&D, to me. Sill, if they used the High Lord to lay down order, then... Well, my opinion could change :D


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The real question is: Why are armoured guys pumped full of adrenaline silent ninja runners?


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The real question is: Why are armoured guys pumped full of adrenaline silent ninja runners?

 

Their feet are quiet but they ramble on like Centurions do. Just like Phantoms gurgling obnoxiously.


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Their feet are quiet but they ramble on like Centurions do. Just like Phantoms gurgling obnoxiously.

"Taking casualties!!!"


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I totally hate that alignment. Lawful good characters are the most nauseating thing in D&D, to me. Sill, if they used the High Lord to lay down order, then... Well, my opinion could change :D


I don't disagree.

But the Claymore is like a 5th law of thermodynamics. A fact. Above morality. Therefore Lawful Neutral.

Pls post a modron holding a claymore. BSNurs, pls.
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So we can SMASH 'em too.
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I don't think there's any faction that's problematic or frustrating. I mean, the game is easy as it is. 

 

Easy or difficult isn't really relevant to me here ... Cerberus are just basically not a whole lot of fun; there is not one single Cerberus unit that doesn't irritate me in one way or another.


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Easy or difficult isn't really relevant to me here ... Cerberus are just basically not a whole lot of fun; there is not one single Cerberus unit that doesn't irritate me in one way or another.

I'm gonna blindly like every post of yours that has the word cerberus because our opinions regarding cerBS are the same.


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Easy or difficult isn't really relevant to me here ... Cerberus are just basically not a whole lot of fun; there is not one single Cerberus unit that doesn't irritate me in one way or another.

 

Worst offender = Nemesis?



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I'm gonna blindly like every post of yours that has the word cerberus because our opinions regarding cerBS are the same.

 

So, TNS, how would - you - feel about a Dragoon that can sync-kill us?  :blink:



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So, TNS, how would - you - feel about a Dragoon that can sync-kill us?  :blink:

Wouldn't change much TBH.

 

I very rarely play cerberus now anyway, so that detail like that wouldn't change anything.



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What happened with the Raptor is this: Cerberus leaked the intelligence for their high powered rifle.

It's the wrong intelligence.

Cerberus shiggles at Alliance Corp when they hear tell of their replication of it.

Alliance issues the gun.

Alliance soldier try out gun one time. Place back in armory. Tell Alliance they did something wrong.

Alliance tells them to eat a dick.

No one speaks of this situation again.

nah its more like:
Cerberus defect brings Raptor blueprint to Alliance.

Alliance tells its gunsmith to make the thing.

Gunsmith A: so what is the difference between this thing and the Black Widow?

Gunsmith B: this one is white.

Gunsmith A: ...and?

Gunsmith B: that's it.

Gunsmith A: ...

Gunsmith B: ...

Gunsmith A: ...you wanna go grab a few beer?

Gunsmith B: Ya sure.

Later that day they decided to forget about blueprint and redesigned the Raptor the way it now is. To differentiate!