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Have you ever had a paranormal or unexplained experience? Do you even believe in such things?


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>you will never deliver tofu every morning in a Panda Trueno and WRX.

Why live?





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The skits?

Ok, I'm done here.

I can't be fucked typing out the full thing in an argument I don't care for. 



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>you will never deliver tofu every morning

Why live?
 

what is it with you always trying to get interesting threads closed?



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Natural however, is easy to gauge, normal though, we don't know normal. Until we see everything we can see, normal is subjective, natural however, is objective.

 

People don't see things that aren't there.



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what is it with you always trying to get interesting threads closed?

This threaded is headed down a dark path, the quicker it dies the better. Besides, any opportunity to post eurobeat is one I'll take.

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This threaded is headed down a dark path, the quicker it dies the better. Besides, any opportunity to post eurobeat is one I'll take.

while i agree on eurobeat theres nothing wrong with letting the kids argue :P



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People don't see things that aren't there.

Oh no doubt. 



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while i agree on eurobeat theres nothing wrong with letting the kids argue :P

Well if we're being honest here, this thread was gone, too touchy a subject, as we've seen.



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People don't see things that aren't there.

 

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Oh no doubt. 

 

Then, you don't doubt that what your cousin is experiencing isn't normal. If your cousin is seeing figures of people, I'm sure it concerns your family. In the context of his experiences, is his thinking organized? Does he play with other children? How is he like compared with other children? Does he stay in one spot all day all by himself? If he's exhibiting abnormal behavior, that necessitates a visit from a psychiatrist at least to be evaluated. Schizophrenia is a very disabling disease. People can become homeless or disabled all their life.

 

EDIT: The whole thing could also be nothing. My cousin claimed to see dead family relatives when she was 5. But, they were isolated experiences.


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Then, you don't doubt that what your cousin is experiencing isn't normal. If your cousin is seeing figures of people, I'm sure it concerns your family. In the context of his experiences, is his thinking organized? Does he play with other children? How is he like compared with other children? Does he stay in one spot all day all by himself? If he's exhibiting abnormal behavior, that necessitates a visit from a psychiatrist at least to be evaluated. Schizophrenia is a very disabling disease. People can become homeless or disabled all their life.

Oh fuuck no, that's not normal, we have a big family, and he's the only one.

 

He's got plenty of friends and he's hyperactive as fuuck. 

 

And he's 11, the most organised thinking he's doing is what video game he wants to play today. 



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Oh fuuck no, that's not normal, we have a big family, and he's the only one.

 

He's got plenty of friends and he's hyperactive as fuuck. 

 

And he's 11, the most organised thinking he's doing is what video game he wants to play today. 

 

LMAO, not really what I meant by organized thinking. But, he seems like a normal kid. If those perceptions persist and they get worse, he needs to see a professional.



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LMAO, not really what I meant by organized thinking. But, he seems like a normal kid. If those perceptions persist and they get worse, he needs to see a professional.

I think he'll be fine, they aren't common anymore. It's just unsettling, when he wakes me up at 3am to tell me someone is about to stroke my forehead.



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I think he'll be fine, they aren't common anymore. It's just unsettling, when he wakes me up at 3am to tell me someone is about to stroke my forehead.

and this is why i keep a gun on the night stand


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and this is why i keep a gun on the night stand

 

To stroke people's foreheads?


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To stroke people's foreheads?

no, in case someone wakes me up :P



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no, in case someone wakes me up :P

So you can stroke their forehead?


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Rationally no, but when I'm half asleep and paralyzed in bed my monkey brain knows the fear again.


This is actually a very explainable phenomenon. It has happened to me a few times and was known in the 1800's as "the devil sitting on your chest."

What happens is that when we sleep, our brain releases chemicals that paralyze us. This is assumed to prevent us from getting up and walking around or acting out the actions in our dreams, which would make us more vulnerable.

However, at times prior to sleep, these chemicals can be released that paralyze the body, but before we've actually fallen asleep. While wide awake, we are unable to move or even so much as make a noise, feeling helpless in our own bodies. There is a genetic component, as well as evidence that stress, lack of sleep and other factors play a part as well.


So there you go - no demons or spirits taking control, just good old fashioned brain chemistry gone awry.

To the original question, I feel like the power of the brain to make things real is one of humanity's greatest strengths, but it all too often manifests itself through fear or paranoia.
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Yeah, it's known as "sleep paralysis". I've suffered a couple of times now and it's one of the worst feelings ever. Plus since your brain is playing tricks on you and you are "waking up" you tend to see weird stuff like shadows or feel things.

 

To answer the question: I don't know. I feel things sometimes when I'm home alone, like a sudden change in air pressure, a presence etc. I like to think it's just my brain playing tricks on me due to stress/lack of sleep and nothing "paranormal". 



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People don't see things that aren't there.



What? That's not true. People see things that aren't there all the time.
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What? That's not true. People see things that aren't there all the time.

hallucinations dont count, since they arent "normal" :P



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So that's what it was, sleep paralysis, I woke up one morning and couldn't move, it was terrifying, didn't take long before I could move though, and the fear passed, still though, terrifying.

 

EDIT: Is it normal to have it after you wake? 



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hallucinations dont count, since they arent "normal" :P

 

What? That's not true. People see things that aren't there all the time.

 

Damn, Dermain's going to attack me. I was talking about delusions, not hallucinations.



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DidNo one see my post on sleep paralysis? 

I can pretty much explain many peoples horror stories(well, when they happen at night while your sleeping) as sleep paralysis
 
It is very common, and very scary when it happens. Happened to me once, I freaked out.

From the link 
 
 
 

is a phenomenon in which a person, either falling asleep or awakening, temporarily experiences an inability to move, speak or react. It is a transitional state between wakefulness and sleep, characterized by complete muscle atonia (muscle weakness). It is often accompanied by terrifying hallucinations (such as an intruder in the room) to which one is unable to react due to paralysis, and physical experiences (such as strong current running through the upper body).


Many people who experience sleep paralysis are struck with a deep sense of terror when they sense a menacing presence in the room while paralyzed—hereafter referred to as the intruder. A neurological interpretation of this phenomenon is that it results from a hyper-vigilant state created in the midbrain.[9] More specifically, the emergency response is activated in the brain when individuals wake up paralyzed and feel vulnerable to attack.[10] This helplessness can intensify the effects of the threat response well above the level typical of normal dreams, which could explain why such visions during sleep paralysis are so vivid


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usually if i wake up and cant move its because my wife forgot to untie me :lol: