Thedas and Magic : What is the Fade?
#1
Posté 31 mars 2015 - 07:58
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#2
Posté 31 mars 2015 - 08:18
#3
Posté 31 mars 2015 - 09:46
But, for all intents and purposes, I think the Fade is just supposed to represent an astral plane, which is made up of the collective consciousness of all the inhabitants of Thedas. So then it was probably never created but has more likely always existed in some form, as long as there have been people or animals capable of experiencing reflective thought or emotion. This idea of a collective consciousness that anyone can tap into via the fade, presumes there is one underlying energy, will, or mind, that all beings in Thedas are part of and interconnected to. So before the veil, the fade would have naturally been everywhere, like the air. Solas says this was the case when you talk to him about magic.
So the real question I think is what is the veil... and was it created by someone (and for what reason)? I think at this point it was probably artificially created, for the purpose of shielding the mundane inhabitants of Thedas from the fade. Why, who knows. Could have been done for protection, or maybe for some less than benevelent reason...we don't really know. I think it's likely Solas had something to do with it, or knows something about it. At any rate, he remembers a time before the veil, when knowledge of Magic and the Fade was very natural and common for all elves.
As for the difference between blood and lyrium as a power source and whether the fade is needed for magic at all. I don't have a theory and I'm not really sure if the writers have figured it out yet or not, but my guess so far is that blood magic is more based on physical energy, and lyrium is more of a...psychic energy maybe, strengthening your connection to the fade? Look at the differences in how lyrium is portrayed in the game...all the comparisons with Templars and drug addiction. So taking lyrium would maybe be like a mystic taking mushrooms. Opening the mind to the astral plane and drawing magical energy from that. There doesn't really seem to be any sort of limit to the fade as a power source...it is as much or as little as the mage has the ability to focus their will. Like you said, drawing from the collective/shared consciousness of everyone. Blood mages on the other hand behave a lot more like vampires, feeding off another person's physical life force for energy. Very powerful but limited in supply. If this is the case then it makes sense why blood magic would make entering the fade harder. It's not really designed to do that.
#4
Posté 31 mars 2015 - 11:02
The Fade is a ripoff of the Warp from WH 40k.
Even this universe's mages are similar to 40k's psykers.
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#5
Posté 01 avril 2015 - 02:00
This is one of the few times on this forum that I wished the wall of text was even bigger. Good read.
#6
Posté 01 avril 2015 - 05:01
This is one of the few times on this forum that I wished the wall of text was even bigger. Good read.
Sorry, but I do have a job :-P
#7
Posté 01 avril 2015 - 05:42
I suspect the forgotten ones were the dwarven gods as the primal thaig suggests the dwarves once had gods but they have become forgotten perhaps deliberately and the dwarves instead turned to venerating the stone which is what they have done for two thousand years.
As for the nature of the fade it self, it is a realm of spirits which according to the chantrywhere the souls of the dead pass though to someplace beyond, something that Justice confirmed adding that the spirits don't know where the dead go.
The architect is the one who corrupted the archdemon of the fifth blight in a attempt to free the darkspawn from the calling and apparently the old god wasn't corrupted before that so I don't think they could have been corrupted before hand. However all the first darkspawn such as Corypheus were High Priests of the various old gods which might have had something to do with why the darkspawn are drawn to the old gods.





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