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[Sunnie]

circle, circle, circle, circle... hey, this thread (and the other 4? HoF threads) are like road racing, some people just going around in circles doing laps.

Circular arguments FTL!

[Sah291]

I wouldn't mind if they did, but I can understand why the devs don't want to. And if they don't want to, then I guess I prefer they don't...unless they have a good opportunity and reason to do it  (storyline involving the taint cure). I wouldn't mind another letter or codex entry about the Warden's progress with the cure, like maybe finding some research notes or something like that, to expand on the lore. 

[The Dank Warden]

yes, ppl wants his/her warden back!

[AWTEW]

Meh, no..too many varations..and its sort of spits on those who made the u.s, by bringing the warden back as a playable character.

[AWTEW]

circle, circle, circle, circle... hey, this thread (and the other 4? HoF threads) are like road racing, some people just going around in circles doing laps.
Circular arguments FTL!

at this point its like they are playing guitar hero.

[laudable11]

I really loved how the Warden won the leadership role in Bioware's ultimate team contest.

As far as the Dragon Age franchise is concerned the Warden is G.O.A.T.

to cover all the possible variables involving the Warden it would cost a lot of money.

Just make a Warden based expansion for twenty bucks a pop. The hard work would be worth it. All the Warden fans would throw so much money at Bioware that they would have funding for Dragon Age 4!

[MarcoNeves]

I just want to thank everyone for posting your opinions and encouraging honest, respectful dialogue/debate. For those of you who did, naturally. (If the shoe fits, wear it.) So, thank you
So far the "Yes" group is ahead slightly, but it is pretty tight a poll. Honestly, I've come to agree with a lot of people in the "No" group. A lot of what's being argued against bringing HoF back makes a lot of sense, but then again... the opposite group brings up great points too.
Good job, people!

[canarius]

The Warden has to come back. You have to be blind to not see the franchise went downhill after the Warden. The Warden = Dragon Age. It's simple math. As for the voice, I think Bioware should give us an option to voice him or not. The Warden must be the player character for all the future Dragon Age games. The franchise is doomed to fail without the Warden.

[AlanC9]

That argument would be a lot more convincing if DAI had actually, you know, failed.

[Steppenwolf]

The Warden has to come back. You have to be blind to not see the franchise went downhill after the Warden. The Warden = Dragon Age. It's simple math. As for the voice, I think Bioware should give us an option to voice him or not. The Warden must be the player character for all the future Dragon Age games. The franchise is doomed to fail without the Warden.

 

The Warden was just an empty vessel. The success of Origins has nothing to do with that specific character and everything to do with player attachment. Players feel less attached to Hawke and the Inquisitor because they're not vessels for the player, they're largely defined for the player. Had the Warden been voiced people would have felt less attachment to him/her because the vessel would have less room for the player to fill.

[guntar74]

As much as I enjoyed my wardens path and story I don't think they should come back. They had their time in the spotlight and I feel it would diminish each new hero if the old was constantly coming back

[MrMrPendragon]

Well of course not! I don't want it to ruin my headcanon lols

[dsl08002]

That argument would be a lot more convincing if DAI had actually, you know, failed.

Well it wasnt a huge hit

[KaiserShep]

The Warden has to come back. You have to be blind to not see the franchise went downhill after the Warden. The Warden = Dragon Age. It's simple math. As for the voice, I think Bioware should give us an option to voice him or not. The Warden must be the player character for all the future Dragon Age games. The franchise is doomed to fail without the Warden.

 

I'll always find this kind of sentiment rather baffling. Like, what exactly makes the Warden immune to the franchise simply taking a nosedive anyway? What if the writers strung this character along for multiple games? What's to stop them from just writing dreck and giving the character a really crappy ending after countless hours of heaping baggage and past choices that got counteracted for plot reasons?

 

The idea that the Warden = Dragon Age is ridiculous. If that was true, then why do people even bother playing after Origins? It is, after all, the game that we can all blame for the Warden being a multi-state character that can simply not exist in the rest of the timeline.

[Sunnie]

Well it wasnt a huge hit

And your data supporting that claim is, where?

[Toasted Llama]

And your data supporting that claim is, where?

Fortunately, I DO have sources for the claim that Inquisition WASN'T a failure, as it had the best launch ever in Bioware's history.

Here, here, here, here aaaand here.

Edit: to clarify, no numbers have been brought out though, so you're going to have to trust the devs words for it. However there is no numerical statistic that DA:I is doing bad either.

[dsl08002]

And your data supporting that claim is, where?

oh give me a break, do I have to really explain it

[Toasted Llama]

oh give me a break, do I have to really explain it

...... you've got to be ****** kidding.

If you're going to make a claim, you better have sources to back it up or otherwise your claim is simply wrong. This is basic debating 101.
 

[Sunnie]

oh give me a break, do I have to really explain it

If you are going to make really misinformed claims, don't be surprised when someone asks you to support your claim with data/proof.

 

Without that data/proof, your claim is only your opinion.

[X Equestris]

Well it wasnt a huge hit

Origins was, according to a statement from Gaider a long while back, not terribly profitable. Yet here we are. As I recall, DAI has already outsold DA2's lifetime sales, and that happened a while ago. I can't speak for the other platforms, but DAI is still in the top selling games section of the Playstation Store.

[KaiserShep]

Origins was, according to a statement from Gaider a long while back, not terribly profitable. Yet here we are. As I recall, DAI has already outsold DA2's lifetime sales, and that happened a while ago. I can't speak for the other platforms, but DAI is still in the top selling games section of the Playstation Store.

 

Listen to yourself. You're indoctrinated.

[Heimdall]

Origins was, according to a statement from Gaider a long while back, not terribly profitable.

Probably had something to do with spending so long in development. I wonder how much the godawful marketing trailers factored in.

*This post is a comment, not an argument*

[KaiserShep]

Yeah, those marketing videos are something else. It's like they're promoting one of those crappy "males only" games you see ads for on Facebook or something.

[dogstar12]

The Warden has to come back. You have to be blind to not see the franchise went downhill after the Warden. The Warden = Dragon Age. It's simple math. As for the voice, I think Bioware should give us an option to voice him or not. The Warden must be the player character for all the future Dragon Age games. The franchise is doomed to fail without the Warden.

 

The Warden did start the franchise off it would be nice to see what happens to him or her

I don't think that the franchise is doomed with out the warden but some closer on what happens would be nice
 

[MarcoNeves]

Quick parenthesis: if you want to discuss DAI's sales, and if it's doing well or badly financially, that discussion belongs in a different thread, I would say.
Besides, there isn't enough published data or articles to prove either possibility, unfortunately. Because Bioware has been reluctant to show its sales figures as of yet, I PRESUME, it's not doing as well as they hoped, BUT it's doing well enough for them to launch DLCs and plan a DA4 for the future. Which makes me happy.

Anyway, back to the subject of this thread, The Yes group is still winning, but by a very small margin. I'll have exact figures after Sunday. And Happy Easter everybody!

Marco Neves