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[Shechinah]

I believe in previous threads where it was discussed it was mentioned that EA was apparently satisfied with the financial results of Dragon Age Inquisition.

 

Just as a note to the previous comment.

[X Equestris]

I believe in previous threads where it was discussed it was mentioned that EA was apparently satisfied with the financial results of Dragon Age Inquisition.
 
Just as a note to the previous comment.

Yeah, the CFO was pretty happy in that one interview.

[Robert Cousland]

Seeing as how Bioware will never bring the Warden back, I may as well have him die killing the Archdemon for all it matters.

[KaiserShep]

That'll teach the Warden for being such a Johnny-come-never.

[Toasted Llama]

Quick parenthesis: if you want to discuss DAI's sales, and if it's doing well or badly financially, that discussion belongs in a different thread, I would say.
Besides, there isn't enough published data or articles to prove either possibility, unfortunately. Because Bioware has been reluctant to show its sales figures as of yet, I PRESUME, it's not doing as well as they hoped, BUT it's doing well enough for them to launch DLCs and plan a DA4 for the future. Which makes me happy.

I posted like 5 links with Bioware stating the sales were doing GOOD and actually the best they've had since... ever.

I guess this is why you shouldn't discuss anything on the BSN... Proof gets ignored over and over and over and over again.

[BioFan (Official)]

I'd be totally fine with this, so long as they provide a few options. Given the character wouldn't have NEARLY as much lines as the Inquisitor, they might could provide more than 2 options per gender. But I'll take what I can get so long as there are, indeed, options. 

[zyntifox]

Yeah, the CFO was pretty happy in that one interview.

 

Not trying to insinuate that DA:I did bad (or good for that matter) but you will never see a CFO of any company in any business undermine their own product. If they do it's probably their first, and last, job as an CFO. Have read hundreds of financial statements from CFO's when i worked as a statistician at a financial institute and have never seen anyone undermine their own product.

[X Equestris]

Not trying to insinuate that DA:I did bad (or good for that matter) but you will never see a CFO of any company in any business undermine their own product. If they do it's probably their first, and last, job as an CFO. Have read hundreds of financial statements from CFO's when i worked as a statistician at a financial institute and have never seen anyone undermine their own product.

Certainly, it's just the way he talked about the future of the franchise. If it weren't doing so well, I think he would have been a bit more reserved on that subject.

[Iakus]

Seeing as how Bioware will never bring the Warden back, I may as well have him die killing the Archdemon for all it matters.

 

If that's how you want the Warden's story to end, sure.

 

Me I prefer the story to end with the Warden and Leliana riding off into the sunset.  But that's the nice thing about how DAO ends:  they're all valid endings. Bringing the Warden back would risk wrecking those endings ("My Warden would never do that!")

[JadeDragon]

Seeing as how Bioware will never bring the Warden back, I may as well have him die killing the Archdemon for all it matters.

Regardless if the HoF kills the archdemon or not, The Warden Commander still kills The Mother and meets the Architect. Either way the Warden Commander is still alive if its the HoF or not and they are on the biggest quest a grey warden can have which is curing the calling. This event is going to happen and I would prefer the show instead of tell route. While Thedas does not revolve around one character and the Dragon Age Series is about literally major events that are taking place within the Dragon Age, which curing the calling during the Dragon Age is a event that I would rather play or help assist rather then get a codex in DA:4 saying The Warden Commander succeed or possibly failed which is 50/50. Two things are going to happen rather we play this event or not, The Warden Commander will find a cure for the calling or they will die trying. This has already been set up as canon its a quest that is going on during the events of DA:I so at some point it will have to be addressed.

[duckley]

Let it go....

[Sunnie]

Let it go....

The sad part is... the reaction to your post from some here will be... "CHALLENGE ACCEPTED!"

And then more circles. 

[Get Magna Carter]

The voice is not an issue to me

 

DAO remains my favourite Bioware game and I love my warden.

BUT

different players have very different wardens (and some made the Ultimate Sacrifice) - a good continuation for one would be bad for another.

I don't think any return would do justice to my warden so I'd rather have her drop out of the story so I can "head-canon" her later adventures

 

so No

[jedidotflow]

No. I don't want to play as a Grey Warden again. That story's done. If the HoF cures the calling or not, that's not interesting to me in comparison to the info we got regarding the elven gods, etc.

[Steppenwolf]

No. I don't want to play as a Grey Warden again. That story's done. If the HoF cures the calling or not, that's not interesting to me in comparison to the info we got regarding the elven gods, etc.

 

I echo this sentiment. Curing The Calling is all well and good for the Wardens but in comparison to an Elven God who's shaping the world and is likely now the most powerful being ever in the waking world it just feels like a sidequest. The Wardens have been diminished and their is no Blight so a quest to cure The Calling is inherently less interesting than going where Inquisition is leading us.

[Legion of 1337]

I think the Warden should have died from killing the Archdemon anyway. What kind of RPG hero doesnt kill the villain themselves?

[Steppenwolf]

I think the Warden should have died from killing the Archdemon anyway. What kind of RPG hero doesnt kill the villain themselves?

 

Well, setting aside the fact that the Warden can kill the Archdemon and survive, letting your PC be cowardly or allow someone else to get the glory/redeem himself is pretty amazing. It's a "Han shot first" sort of thing. It plays a large role in defining your character. Taking away that choice to make the game more cliche would have been a horrible decision.

[Legion of 1337]

Well, setting aside the fact that the Warden can kill the Archdemon and survive, letting your PC be cowardly or allow someone else to get the glory/redeem himself is pretty amazing. It's a "Han shot first" sort of thing. It plays a large role in defining your character. Taking away that choice to make the game more cliche would have been a horrible decision.

The plot if Origins is pretty cliche anyway. Well told, but far from original. Might as well go all the way. But thats just my Warden i guess.

[myahele]

No, I'd rather like to think that my warden's time ran low and couln't find the cure.

 

Eventually, she (and whoever her lover was) went into the deep roads to complete her calling. But knowing what happens to females, she decided to kill herself when she defeated enough darkspawn. 

 

In that moment she sees something in the distance....it was the Architect with some others with him! Her body was immobilized. With her consciousness quickly fading her last thought was "...broodmother" 

[In Exile]

I echo this sentiment. Curing The Calling is all well and good for the Wardens but in comparison to an Elven God who's shaping the world and is likely now the most powerful being ever in the waking world it just feels like a sidequest. The Wardens have been diminished and their is no Blight so a quest to cure The Calling is inherently less interesting than going where Inquisition is leading us.

 

The Wardens were always fodder. In fact, that's all that DA is about. The PC is both an agent (awesome at killing) and fodder at the whims of others (you run errands for others to acquire their help and you're just a tool in the plot of some ancient horror entity). In DA:O the Warden was an awesome killing machine than ran errands for political figures to get an army and was only alive as part of Flemeth's Xanatos Gambit. In DA2, it's the same with Hawke, with the added bonus that you're also the unknowing instrument of Corypheus' will. In DA:I, you're the unwitting pawn in Solas' Xanatos Gambit.

 

The HOF will likely succeed in curing their - and only their - calling. It's not about curing everyone's calling, and it won't end that way.

[MarcoNeves]

One more time, for all of you that continuously keep NOT reading the thread properly (jedidotflow, for example): the question is should we bring back the HoF as a NON PLAYABLE CHARACTER, or not? So, please people, do NOT begin your answers with " yes/no I would like/not like to play as the HoF again. That wasn't the question.

Please, I know we seem to all be ADD-stricken nowadays (lol), but do yourself a favor and read the paragraphs until the end, before you erroneously reply. Thank you so much.

[Shechinah]

(to MarcoNeves) If the question is "should we bring back the HoF as a NON PLAYABLE CHARACTER, or not?" then you might want to change not only the title of this thread but also the opening post since the question posed in both is "What does everyone think about bringing the Warden back as a voiced character?"

[Sotaklas]

I would love to see the Warden, I am sure Bioware can pick cool voice actors, they are good at that, and of course a CC just before we meet him/her. I know Bioware can pull it of ,so let's hope

[Brockololly]

I would be more than fine bringing the Warden back in a voiced role as NPC provided that you were able to pick a voice like you could with the Inquisitor and make your Warden again in a Character Creator. Just don't thrust the Warden into some huge plot role as an NPC but leave them as the equivalent of a cameo. Their presence in Inquisition through the letter to the Inquisitor was fine in terms of their tone, so if they showed up again in that same sort of fashion but actually on screen, that would be fine.

 

Hell, they could have easily tossed the Warden in at the Winter Palace as a quick cameo. If you romanced Morrigan or Leliana, just have your Inquisitor in a cutscene walking up to either Leliana or Morrigan and you see them talking to some figure in a mask with Grey Warden armor on. As you get closer maybe you see the Warden hug/kiss Leliana/Morrigan and walk off. Then when you get to Morrigan/Leliana you can ask who that was to which they can say it was the HoF or their lover or however they want to phrase it.

 

 

Ideally, BioWare would just let the player play as their HoF or Warden Commander one more time if they bring up another Warden related plot or some plot heavily involving an old Origins companion/love interest. In which case they wouldn't need to concern themselves with voicing the Warden. I don't want to interact with a Warden plot as some disengaged Inquisitor who has nothing to do with the Wardens and I don't want to be stuck once again interacting with old companions in big plot critical moments as a Player Character who has next to no personal stakes in their fates.

 

 

Me I prefer the story to end with the Warden and Leliana riding off into the sunset.  But that's the nice thing about how DAO ends:  they're all valid endings. Bringing the Warden back would risk wrecking those endings ("My Warden would never do that!")

 

And yet BioWare is already potentially ruining any "walk off into the sunset" endings you had post Origins with the Warden and their Love Interest by constantly bringing back those old love interests like Leliana, Morrigan or Alistair and thrusting them into main plot roles where they seemingly act without any regard to their past and their relationship with the Warden.

 

Leliana becoming Divine? A romanced Warden never brought up during that process. Morrigan potentially going Full Stupid in service of the plot and blindly drinking from the Well of Sorrows despite potentially having a child and de-facto husband? Kieran is brushed off in one sentence like Morrigan is some deadbeat mother ("Oh, he's a strong 10 year old. He'll deal") and a romanced Warden's relationship with Morrigan is not only not brought up at the Well of Sorrows nor does any of that relationship influence Morrigan's decision making there. Nor is any of that brought up during the whole family drama with Flemeth. And Alistair potentially dying in the Fade? Nope, no mention of a romanced Warden.

 

 

 

The problem isn't that fans can't  "let it go" with their Wardens. The problem is that BioWare won't let go of all the old companions and love interests of the Warden. As long as BioWare keeps bringing back those companions and LI's with the Warden conspicuously absent, it only makes sense people might want to bring their Warden back either as an NPC or a temporary PC to interact with those old characters one more time. Stop forcing these old Origins love interests and companions back into these games and genuinely let them walk off into the sunset with the Warden, or else bring back the Warden too.

 

 

I echo this sentiment. Curing The Calling is all well and good for the Wardens but in comparison to an Elven God who's shaping the world and is likely now the most powerful being ever in the waking world it just feels like a sidequest. The Wardens have been diminished and their is no Blight so a quest to cure The Calling is inherently less interesting than going where Inquisition is leading us.

 

Sure, the elven god stuff is interesting but by your line of thinking that's the only thing worth exploring in future games? Hell no. Its a problem with DA if they simply keep escalating the scope and grandeur of the plots so that eventually you're solely dealing with gods and that sort of thing. Personally, I'd say that a quest to cure the Calling and all that may entail with the Blight, Architect, Old Gods and Grey Warden stuff is still fantastically interesting and hell, probably factors into the Elven God stuff at some point too.

[MarcoNeves]

I posted like 5 links with Bioware stating the sales were doing GOOD and actually the best they've had since... ever.
I guess this is why you shouldn't discuss anything on the BSN... Proof gets ignored over and over and over and over again.

Toasted Llama, I noticed the links you posted, and actually read them. So yes, I acknowledge the articles you linked here, and I appreciate that you went through the trouble of looking the stuff up. The problem I have with said links, is that I find some (not all) of the info a little vague, if not dubious. Especially, the info that comes from Bioware itself, that's all.
But yes, it's probably enough info to assume the game is doing well. I just hope people aren't fooled by their strategic language when stating it was "the best game LAUNCH of all time". Launch does not equal sales success overall. It is merely an indication thereof.

In order to verify if the game did extremely well (as they claim), we need to wait until about a year, in my opinion, or hope Bioware reveals their actual sales figures.