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Bringing back a "voiced" Hero of Ferelden NPC: Yes, or No?


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mjb203

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It's tricky.

 

Because, there was a 'Voice' for your Warden in Origins. Allbeit only in Combat. You picked the voice type from a list of many options.

 

There's no way Bioware are bringing back all those Voice Actors to cover all the bases. For one, Robin Sachs voice one Male voice. So that's not going to be possible. Cullen's Voice actor voiced others - which could get confusing.

 

I'd personally like the option, because I want to see my Wardens return. But at the same point I also remember how hacked off I was that my joyful sarcastic Hawke turned up here, only to snarl and grimace in DAI in a way which seemed so completely out of character. So it's tough.

 

I think if you introduced The Warden you'd need Bioware to offer several different Voice actors, based on personality, in order to convey what was needed. That's probably a bit difficult to offer.

Personally, I think the excuse of "silent protagonist" (with the combat exceptions) falls flat for Bioware.  Now, they certainly could bring back a couple of Voice Actors if they were to bring the Warden back, but this would add to the cost for them (going on a basis of two for each sex, and the fems use the "can I get you a ladder" line).  And, since it's been 10 years since DAO, they could just possibly give the Warden a fairly "neutral" dialog tone, and chalk it up to being jaded from being a Warden for so long or whatever (again, I KNOW this won't work for everyone, but it would be an easy out for Bioware).  As far as I'm concerned, the Warden stopped being MY character after Origins/Awakening/associated DLC for those, and become Bioware's again.  Now, they could also take into account the choices from the Keep to give the HoF a more good/evil slant based on the choices, but that could get a bit complicated.

 

I would like to see the Warden make another appearance, only because of the lack of closure and because what you find out from them after the war table mission would be an interesting topic for a DLC story mission.  Anyway, that's my $0.02.



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Origins had something like a 10-year development cycle.


No it didn't. It had a 6-year development.

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I haven't read the earlier comments so i don't know how often this is brought up,  but Bioware didn't have any issues bringing back silent hero Revan as voiced character in SWTOR so why would Warden be any different



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I haven't read the earlier comments so i don't know how often this is brought up,  but Bioware didn't have any issues bringing back silent hero Revan as voiced character in SWTOR so why would Warden be any different


Apples and oranges. Revan is almost entirely defined by the story. The Warden is mostly defined by the player. The Warden is simply a vehicle for the player to enter the world of Dragon Age. That's why people care about the Warden more than Hawke and the Inquisitor.

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Revan doesn't make for the most confidence-building example, considering that people hated what happened to him.


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As a NPC no. As a playable character yes. If there's one thing I want is to be able to play as my warden before the franchise ends and continue off where it left. I really got the calling part will be a story part that you get to play as the warden

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Apples and oranges. Revan is almost entirely defined by the story. The Warden is mostly defined by the player. The Warden is simply a vehicle for the player to enter the world of Dragon Age. That's why people care about the Warden more than Hawke and the Inquisitor.

 

Your PC in KoTOR was as blank as the Warden is in DA:O. Same dialogue system, a threadbare origin, and absolutely no overlap with the "Revan" identity. Obsidian gave a fixed canon to it afterward in KoTOR2, but that's no different from how Bioware moved forward in DA:A by making you all I<3GWs. 

 

Where I'm going with this is that nothing is stopping Bioware from turning the HOF into a mostly set figure like they did with Hawke. 


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No. It won't happen anyways. David Gaider, Lead Writer on all Dragon Ages games and the only authority on story and characters, has explicitly stated the Warden will not return in a major capacity in the future. If Gaider has moved on, that means everybody else has to move on as well. I doubt we'll see Hawke again either as you could choose whether he/she dies in DAI. At this point, we only have the Inquisitor to look forward to or a future protagonist that Gaider will likely create. This is one of my criticisms of Gaider's style and Dragon Age. Unlike Drew Karpyshyn, who wanted to build off the story of one protagonist, Gaider likes to jump around to different experiences. There are some strengths to Gaider's approach, but it really is a bummer for those who would have liked to have explored previous protagonists further. C'est la vie.

 

As far as Revan is concerned in KotOR, he was rather a blank slate. Revan doesn't really become truly amazing until Obsidian further expanded on his character through the myths and lies of Kreia in KotOR II. Moral of the story? Silent protagonists are bad for character development and storytelling. All hail the new age of voiced protagonists that actually have a personality and an identity you can craft.


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Your PC in KoTOR was as blank as the Warden is in DA:O. Same dialogue system, a threadbare origin, and absolutely no overlap with the "Revan" identity. Obsidian gave a fixed canon to it afterward in KoTOR2, but that's no different from how Bioware moved forward in DA:A by making you all I<3GWs. 

 

Where I'm going with this is that nothing is stopping Bioware from turning the HOF into a mostly set figure like they did with Hawke. 

 

Well, what stop us from being able to select an personality type for the warden? That worked well enough with Hawke. My only complain is that they gave Hawke too much neutral dialogue. And if anything, the warden works better with neutral then Hawke. If we could select some world views for the Warden, that would be enough to build an character in my opinion.



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Well, what stop us from being able to select an personality type for the warden? That worked well enough with Hawke. My only complain is that they gave Hawke too much neutral dialogue. And if anything, the warden works better with neutral then Hawke. If we could select some world views for the Warden, that would be enough to build an character in my opinion.


I don't mean a set personality in the tone sense (though DAO also had dialogue written with tones in mind). I mean that DAI gave Hawke set and predefined goals that might contradict headcanon.

Bioware's already given you preset worldviews for the HOF in both DAO and DAA when it comes to the GWs.

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I don't mean a set personality in the tone sense (though DAO also had dialogue written with tones in mind). I mean that DAI gave Hawke set and predefined goals that might contradict headcanon.

Bioware's already given you preset worldviews for the HOF in both DAO and DAA when it comes to the GWs.

 

Well, Hawke views match with their choice at the end game. As for blood magic. It got their mother killed, and if you side with the mages, Orsino, your own ally, sucumbs to it. I think Hawke had enough reason to be against it by default. I never liked playing as blood mage Hawke anyway.

 

And considering the HoF letter in Inquisition, I think it's safe to asume that by canon, they don't like the fact they became a grey warden at all. Otherwise, I don't think he/she would bother for an cure.



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I don't think looking for the cure automatically means that the HoF doesn't like being a Grey Warden, but there's nothing truly beneficial about succumbing to the calling and going off into the Deep Roads to die fighting the endless supply of darkspawn either.



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I imagine that if the Warden didn't like being a Warden, he'd have pulled an Anders and just abandoned the whole thing.  The fact that he still signs the letter as Warden Commander So-and-so is pretty telling.  



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I dont care if they bring Warden back or not. Im pretty happy that they are alive and with Zevran. 

 

But if they get rid of Hawke, i....wait they already did.



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As long as ALL the voice actors (or ones with similar voices) who were used in the voice set come back and I get to customise and choose the same voice I used for my wardens in DAO as well as being able to play and control my Warden's dialogue and actions, then yes by all means bring the Hero of Ferelden back. If no to all of those things, then no thanks, just give us a bit of dialogue with a Love Interest or a Friend saying the HOF cured the taint and is now living a happy life with their Love Interest or adventuring somewhere or doing whatever players want to headcanon. 

 

I know what I want is maybe too far-fetched - way too far-fetched - but there it is.


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Yes please Bioware bring the HoF back then send Him/her to the Nightmare Demon who will become a sort of Heroes-Eater, because is really intolerable that after 6 years people are still complaining about 1 single character who is a non mandatory blank state due to the default Female dalish warden.
Please Bioware next dragon age game must be after 20 years of the event of DAI so aside from Solas we will not be bothered with DAO origins characters anymore.


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Yes, 100% Yes. I dont expect him to be a perfect representation of my imagination, just give him a talented voice actor or actors. I want my Warden/Morrigan reunion.

what this guy said hands down, it dose not have to be perfect as long as she has a british accent im down with whatever bioware do