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[Rocknife]

Yes. Definitely Yes. If Alistair and Loghain can appear, why not Warden? Alistair and Loghain can die in two different places in two different ways in DAO yet that didn't prevent them from appearing in the net games. Give us a few voice options like the ones in DAI Character Creation and make him/her appearance customizable like Hawke and it will be great. Besides, The Warden actually had voice in DAO, he was just silent during dialogues. He spoke and reacted during combat and when given orders. I don't really care about the voice though. Couldn't care less about the voice, it's not so important as some might seem to think.

 

To be honest, I'd prefer The Warden Commander from Awakening (Either HoF or Orlesian) to be the protagonist of the next game, rather than just a companion like Hawke. It's almost certain that the next protagonist will be a powerful Grey Warden since there's till Architect and two buried Old Gods in Thedas and Epilogue tells us that we're going to Weisshaupt soon. Besides, there are some little newfound Griffons in Weisshaupt now and I think this is a sign that we will play as a Grey Warden in the next game and perhaps ride those Griffons to the battle. Who else deserves to ride Griffons to the battle and fight Archdemons more than the Warden Commander of Ferelden? In the Epilogue of Awakening, The Orlesian Warden Commander disappears the same way The HoF disappears and this interesting text appears in the Awakening Epilogue : "neither does anyone think their tale is complete...". I'd love to play as a Grey Warden again and considering the events in DAI, things are getting bigger and worse than ever so we'll need a powerful protagonist and Warden Commander is the most suitable option for the next Protagonist in my opinion. This would also eliminate "being given power out of nowhere" crap like how Inquisitor became significant. Another important thing: many people sacrificed Alistair or performed Dark Ritual to save their Warden and this way their sacrifice would not be meaningless. I hated sacrificing Alistair but I wanted my Warden more than I liked Alistair.

 

In Default World State, HoF dies so new players could create their own Warden Commander from scratch (especially since there were no romance options in DA Awakening) and those who prefer to play as their Warden can do so thanks to The Keep. They can replace each other like in Awakening. Everyone wins. And this would also give us a chance to see The Warden with his son Kieran for once. I'm upset that we didn't see them together in Inquisition. Poor Cousland, I watched him losing his entire family once, now he finally has his own family and I cannot see him together with his son.

 

To me, the most messed up Warden is still better than Hawke (or anything about DA2) and even Hawke comes back in Inquisition. The Warden earned his/her place in Ultimate Party, The Warden is by far the most popular portagonist, just give me the Warden.

[Undead Han]

As far as voice actors go, my votes would be for...

 

James Purefoy for the British male voice

 

David Hayter (Solid Snake in Metal Gear / Jedi Knight player character in SWTOR) for the North American male voice

 

Tricia Helfer (Number Six in Battlestar Galactica / EDI in Mass Effect) for the North American female voice

 

Eva Green for the British female voice

[AlexiaRevan]

Sure , bring the warden back and messed it up . It be the last on the list..may as well get it over with . 

[SofaJockey]

 

So this... 

 

(And if by some amazing quirk if it did happen, I imagine it would be short and result in a bloody permanent death)

[Antergaton]

No, the freedom we had with choice of dialogue lines in DA:O will be completely lost. Many of the line spoken in DA:O were done so in reaction to what the Warden had said and the Warden said some truely odd things.

 

It's much to the reason why some sense of personality is lost on the Inquisitor, they have to be a dead pan character to fit, while the Warden could be ruthless.

 

A Voiced version would not be. Just leave them out, not sure why everyone is obsessed with them. They had their game, and in many are dead.

[AlexiaRevan]

No, the freedom we had with choice of dialogue lines in DA:O will be completely lost. Many of the line spoken in DA:O were done so in reaction to what the Warden had said and the Warden said some truely odd things.

 

It's much to the reason why some sense of personality is lost on the Inquisitor, they have to be a dead pan character to fit, while the Warden could be ruthless.

 

A Voiced version would not be.

Yeah . I dont know why everyone want a Voiced Warden when she/he wasnt . 

[Dieb]

Personally, I'm all for it.

 

Never really cared for themselves as much as for their companions, so I don't care if their personality isn't 100% conveyed according to my headcanon (I only remember mine being mostly grumpy) - maybe you can even give the player the option to choose a general attitude, like with Hawke when setting up the Keep, beforehandedly.

 

The only thing I would be on the fence about is how people refer to them. Inquisitor sounds so incredibly archaic and unsexy, I'd hate everyone to go "Warden" or "Hero (of Ferelden)". As I wished they did more frequently with the Inquisitor, they should adress them by their fixed last names.

 

Yes that's actually the most important part to me.

 

Eva Green for the British female voice

 

Eva Green for anything. Maybe a foxy tree or a seductive rock; I don't care really.

[Uccio]

Sure, but not in this skyrim copy. It would totally ruin the Warden experience. Inquisition was enough of that.

[Bad King]

Our closest template for a warden in a future game would be Hawke in DA:I. And IMO, Hawke was very unsatisfactory in that game: s/he was barely relevant to the plot and just awkwardly tagged along without a great deal of interaction, and when there was interaction, s/he said things that many players found contradicted their own versions of him/her. The warden would be even more difficult to get right due to the greater range of personality, race, and voice options that there were in DA:O compared to DA2 (not to mention that many people's wardens are dead) - some people even felt a discrepancy between their Origins warden and the letter sent in Inquisition (e.g the Dalish warden in Inquisition references his/her belief in the creators despite some people roleplaying an atheistic or andrastian Dalish elf in Origins).

 

So in light of all this, I'm leaning towards no.

[Chardonney]

I go for 'No', as well.

[Toasted Llama]

*looks at thread*

Dear Maker, please let this be a stupid April Fool's joke thread.


Out of all protagonists I love the Warden the most and I'm pretty tolerable with what Bioware could/would do with him/her if he/she returned. I wouldn't mind it at all. But I really don't feel like seeing the gigantic shitstorm that will ensue because some gamers are selfish and entitled and will throw a temper tantrum if the Warden doesn't re-appear 100% like they want to.

Trying to make the return that fits everyone's different ideas of how the Warden should return, they might just end up killing the HoF in a horrible way possible, not particularly looking forward to that either.

So for the sake of Bioware, the HoF's current awesomeness and the sake of the bloody BSN, I am once again, saying a big fat. NO.

[Unpleasant Implications]

Hell. YES.

You know what I want? I want a three way controllable convo between Warden, Hawke, and the Inquisitor. How great would that be?! It'd be hard to program but ****, it'd be so awesome!

[Catche Jagger]

Yeah, beating a dead horse, this kind of thread has been done already, why does it keep happening, this is just like those romance equality threads just before and after DAI came out, etc.


On the subject at hand, sure. I'd be cool with it.

[Heimdall]

No, people really need to let go of this fixation on bringing the Warden back.

The only reason I imagine it seems appealing is that people don't realize that what made the Warden appealing was what you, the player, put into them, not what Bioware provided. There's no way another appearance could match what you have in your heads, you're setting yourselves up for disappointment.

[JadeDragon]

Yes. with English and American voice sets. Plus French if you gotta remake the awakening warden commander. They guy who did the sacred ashes trailer should be one of the English voices

[Quaddis]

 

That looks more like a donkey then a horse...don't beat poor dead donkey

[Rocknife]

Yes. with English and American voice sets. Plus French if you gotta remake the awakening warden commander. They guy who did the sacred ashes trailer should be one of the English voices

Riordan was a Grey Warden of Orlais but he didn't have French accent. Besides, the Awakening Warden Commander spent enough time in Ferelden to have Fereldan Accent already, I think. Even Frenc Accent wouldn't be necessary. Although in any case, even if the Warden was voiceless again, still would be much better than Hawke/Inquisitor in my opinion.

[DuskWanderer]

No. People need to stop being obsessed with the Warden

[TEWR]

No.

 

Much as I love my Aeducan and would love to see him again, there's only one voice I'd accept for him. The one Fred Tatasciore did for Male Dwarves. The only way I could see this working is if they brought in all of the VAs who did those two dozen or so lines for your Wardens to voice the Warden's scenes.

 

And not only would that be frightfully expensive I wager, it's also going to be hard to do it for some of them since for example Robin Sachs passed away.

 

The other way is that they appear and every time they want to say something, they're cut off by someone else. Like in Jak and Daxter.

Riordan was a Grey Warden of Orlais but he didn't have French accent.

 

Yes he did. his VA was born in France.

[Rocknife]

Not all the Orlesian Grey Wardens were born in Orlais, though. Some just joined the order in Orlais especially before Maric became king and after the battle of Ostagar. Still, a protagonist with French Accent would be a good change. French accent sounds cool.

 

There's such a great potential in bringing back the Warden. It would totally worth it even just to see his/her interactions with romance options. For a Warden who romanced Morrigan but didn't walk through the Eluvian with her; imagine the scene where he sees his son for the first time and his love after years later. That scene alone would have impact on players much more than whole DAI. Or even if he walked through the Eluvian with Morrigan, we never saw him with his son and his wife. A happier family reunion for Morrigan would be something to see. And those who romanced Leliana, Zevran or Alistair didn't even get a proper scene after DAO, those reunions would be very emotional as well.

 

Now that very strange things are happening in Weisshaupt, we're going there for the next game that's for sure. There are also recently found Griffons in Weisshaupt now. Plus, The Architect and two remaining Old Gods. We will surely play as a Grey Warden in the next game. Rather than playing the same thing for a fourth time (a random person working his/her way from the very bottom to the top of the Order, gaining power and influence); playing as already powerful and well known Warden Commander (from Awakening, either Hof or Orlesian) would make much more sense. Just enough with starting from the bottom and climbing to the top in no time BS. I'm sick of it. Especially after DAI. The Warden Commander being in the center of the events makes much more sense since he knows very important characters and figures like Anders, Justice, Architect and Morrigan (in Witch Hunt Orlesian Warden speaks to Morrigan if HoF is dead). Much better than a clueless boy, getting overloaded with tons of information regarding gods, blight, ancient magisters and archdemons.

 

What I want is "NOT"  bringing "The Hero of Ferelden" back whether s/he died or not. What I want is "The Warden Commander" (Either HoF or Orlesian) being the protagonist of the next game rather than being served the story of starting from the bottom and climbing to the top in no time AGAIN. Playing as the Warden Commander, resolving problems in Weisshaupt and becoming the First Warden would make a much better and much more logical story than a new guy miraculously gaining powers and going to the top in no time. This may or may not happen but regardless I will speak my mind. I am so sick of the same story. There doesn't have to be a million different protagonists.

 

What I fear is; we'll get a new guy, or even worse: we'll play as Hawke (yeah, that would totally be the worst thing that could ever be done, not being able to chose race and playing as that overly ha), and gaining an irrelevant power to make the character relevant. Everything is preferable to this.  Especially the Warden Commander since s/he already knows a little bit about what's going on. the Architect, Anders, Justice and stuff you know. And since the Warden Commander didn't have romance options in Awakening, new players could create their protagonists from the scratch while the ones who played DAO and didn't sacrifice their wardens could play as their previous Wardens. If hiring a few voice actors was such a great trouble, then there wouldn't be a lot of sidekicks and not very important guys who we can talk to all the time like Krem.

 

Must there be a billion new dudes who start as an ordinary dude and end up becoming one of the most powerful and influential persons on earth in no time? It is really very boring and we've already seen enough of this.

 

Also, most importantly, there are GRIFFONS in Weisshaupt now. Warden Valya retrieved 13 griffons and brought them to Weisshaupt. Who wouldn't want to ride a "GRIFFON" to the battle as a Grey Warden Commander? Also, the Warden Commander met the Architect and knows about the potential of the taint so s/he may unlock the taint's power as well. There's a great potential in playing as the Warden Commander. Bioware shouldn't waste this chance. In any case, this is much better than playing as a new guy, climbing to the top in no time.

[Lethaya]

Yes. I would definitely like to get more of a resolution for my Warden, since after all the Calling stuff, her fate is kinda open ended again. To be fair, I was pretty satisfied with Hawke in DA:I... so? I mean, as long as my central main choices were alluded to or maybe just left open to headcanoning, I'd be fine.

 

Is it necessary? No. Would I like it? Yesss. Would I mind if they had to make changes? Probably not, I get it. XD

 

EDIT: The Warden Commander role idea is a great one, Rocknife. A good solution to the dead Warden scenario. *nods*

[turuzzusapatuttu]

I would love to see my Warden back, but we need to face reality.

 

Patrick Weekes on the HoF returning:

Spoiler

"The honest answer is, I wouldn’t want to go back to the Hero of Ferelden. I think the hero had a freaking awesome story — you had chance to die heroically, or you had chance to survive and ride off into the sunset with their lover.
 
But remember when you all asked for Hawke to come back, how are you people feeling about that now? So i’d say be careful what you wish for. If we brought the hero back, I'm not sure it would be a happy story."

 

The new lead writer seems pretty sure of what he intends to do.

 

Forget about the Warden, or headcanon him/her finding a cure for the Calling and living a happy life with his/her LI.

 

It's time to focus on new characters and places.

[AlexiaRevan]

 

 

Must there be a billion new dudes who start as an ordinary dude and end up becoming one of the most powerful and influential persons on earth in no time? It is really very boring and we've already seen enough of this.

and recycling the same hero over and over isnt ? The problem with hero like the warden...is that they get too big and in the end the writer wouldn't know how to end their destiny...unless they pull another ME3 . 

[MarcoNeves]

Yeah, beating a dead horse, this kind of thread has been done already, why does it keep happening, this is just like those romance equality threads just before and after DAI came out, etc.
On the subject at hand, sure. I'd be cool with it.

I'm doing a tally of these votes eventually. But to answer your question, specifically: I believe this thread keeps popping up again and again, and again because a HUGE amount of people keep thinking about it and need some kind of closure with the Warden/HoF. When something keeps coming back like this.... it speaks volumes. I think the devs are just afraid of tackling this, but wasn't it them who said that, in order to succeed, it requires leaving our comfort zone? Well, devs (Mike ahem Laidlaw), leave your comfort zone bro! Take the risk! I bet you it'll pay off in the long run.

[Heidirs]

Why not no voice? If they are that worried about it, it wouldn't be too hard to pull off a cameo with a non-speaking Warden.

 

You could even throw in the joke that "S/he doesn't talk much."

 

Simple, short, easy. Everyone's happy.

 

 

 

 

That said, I wouldn't mind a voice either.