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[Robert Cousland]

I understand the people in charge will more than likely never see this, that this post will ultimately be swamped and forgotten, but I feel the need to post this in the miraculous case that something good may come from it. 

 

I understand why Mike Laidlaw, and the rest of the Bioware DA team, have reservations about bringing back the Warden, as stated in a recent Kotaku review, that the backlash, from certain passionate fans, from any perceived screw up would be intense, but I honestly believe that the Warden needs to return in some form, and the fan reaction would be far more positive than negative if it were to happen. I do not expect a voiced Warden to match my imagination 100%, ten years or more in game is a long time, and people change, get older, e.t.c so, as with Hawke, I expect differences in the character/s. As long as the voiced Warden is respectful to our past decisions, and that you give us voice options, possibly using the voice actors who did the battle sounds in Origins, then I fully believe that this could work. I know you're worried about messing up, I know myself what many of the fans can be like, especially on Tumblr, but I genuinely, and honestly, want this to happen.

 

So please Bioware, take the risk.

[AWTEW]

They will mess it up, its an impossibility that they they wont. Hawke was managable, the warden not really. But i'll leave it up to others to explain why.

[Robert Cousland]

I meant zero negativity from myself, I cant control others... yet.

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

I was unhappy with how they handled the returns of Hawke and Morrigan, and have little doubt that the Warden would be the most botched of all.

 

I'd like them to stop bringing back old characters that they don't know how to write, anymore, and concentrate on new ones, that they can't screw up from a lore point of view.

[AresKeith]

I understand the people in charge will more than likely never see this, that this post will ultimately be swamped and forgotten, but I feel the need to post this in the miraculous case that something good may come from it. 

 

I understand why Mike Laidlaw, and the rest of the Bioware DA team, have reservations about bringing back the Warden, as stated in a recent Kotaku review, that the backlash, from certain passionate fans, from any perceived screw up would be intense, but I honestly believe that the Warden needs to return in some form, and the fan reaction would be far more positive than negative if it were to happen. I do not expect a voiced Warden to match my imagination 100%, ten years or more in game is a long time, and people change, get older, e.t.c so, as with Hawke, I expect differences in the character/s. As long as the voiced Warden is respectful to our past decisions, and that you give us voice options, possibly using the voice actors who did the battle sounds in Origins, then I fully believe that this could work. I know you're worried about messing up, I know myself what many of the fans can be like, especially on Tumblr, but I genuinely, and honestly, want this to happen.

 

So please Bioware, take the risk.

 

I think the Warden is a risk that's too big to take

 

Not because they'll mess it up imo (I actually didn't mind how they handled Hawke), because ultimately these characters are still Bioware's and they can pretty much do whatever that want if they felt like it but they also wanna respect the choices the players made. But like AWTEW said Hawke is atleast manageable in this area compared to the Warden which has too many variables to account for.

[Eelectrica]

I think the problem is the Warden is going to be dead in a lot of world states.
And yeah they'll tick someone off because of the VA they hire.

I wouldn't mind the Warden having a role at some point though. They could give the HoF a a heroic but sacrificial end in the world states he/she is still alive in though to wrap up that story once and for all.

[Nefla]

I think from a money standpoint this would be too niche for them to do. New players wouldn't be that interested and many older players have either moved on after DA2/ME3/DA:I or wouldn't be interested for various reasons either (like the warden not matching their imagination).

[Robert Cousland]

I think the problem is the Warden is going to be dead in a lot of world states.
And yeah they'll tick someone off because of the VA they hire.

I wouldn't mind the Warden having a role at some point though. They could give the HoF a a heroic but sacrificial end in the world states he/she is still alive in though to wrap up that story once and for all.

 

Dead Warden? Simple, bring back the Orlesian Warden from Awakening.

[DanteYoda]

After seeing the direction Inquisition went with the older Origins characters, i like to say no... no thanks they already made me really hate those characters i loved in the first of the franchise, i don't need my hero going down that route as well..

[Saphiron123]

I think the problem is the Warden is going to be dead in a lot of world states.
And yeah they'll tick someone off because of the VA they hire.

I wouldn't mind the Warden having a role at some point though. They could give the HoF a a heroic but sacrificial end in the world states he/she is still alive in though to wrap up that story once and for all.

So have a new PC for those who want it, also a warden, and a playable HoF for those who want to import. Same quest, some unique dialogue for each like playing another race. Selection of voices (and the warden wasn't originally silent, he/she DID choose a voice for minor stuff, they'd just have better voice actors now) and let us decide who they are and what they do and what their motivations are.

This is what bioware is supposed to do, and I'd rather see them risk it then write the chharacter out.

After all, if they're just going to screw up the game as so many say, who cares if they get it wrong? The product won't be good anyway. If they get it right, a lot of people will be happy, and the naysayers can have a slightly greener new warden. Everyone wins.

[Saphiron123]

I think the Warden is a risk that's too big to take

Not because they'll mess it up imo (I actually didn't mind how they handled Hawke), because ultimately these characters are still Bioware's and they can pretty much do whatever that want if they felt like it but they also wanna respect the choices the players made. But like AWTEW said Hawke is atleast manageable in this area compared to the Warden which has too many variables to account for.

That is what the keep is for, and they should expand on that and run with it. A developer who doesn't believe in itself is pretty worthless.

[AresKeith]

That is what the keep is for, and they should expand on that and run with it. A developer who doesn't believe in itself is pretty worthless.

 

Can the Keep determine how the players Warden acts or their personality? No

 

With Hawke it was easier to handle

[Kulyok]

The Inquisition never even accounts for a state when the Warden romanced Morrigan, went into Eluvian with her but never slept with her, i.e. romanced her but never had a baby. Can we believe one of the next games will account for EVERY Warden's personality, from the butcher to the politician? Match all the voice expectations? Provide every love interest's reference, including marriage to Anora?

 

That's just unrealistic.

[Isaidlunch]

It's not going to happen, Here Lies the Abyss was their one chance to bring the Warden back and they chose not to.

 

I meant zero negativity from myself, I cant control others... yet.

 

Blood mage!

[AWTEW]

So have a new PC for those who want it, also a warden, and a playable HoF for those who want to import. Same quest, some unique dialogue for each like playing another race. Selection of voices (and the warden wasn't originally silent, he/she DID choose a voice for minor stuff, they'd just have better voice actors now) and let us decide who they are and what they do and what their motivations are.
This is what bioware is supposed to do, and I'd rather see them risk it then write the chharacter out.
After all, if they're just going to screw up the game as so many say, who cares if they get it wrong? The product won't be good anyway. If they get it right, a lot of people will be happy, and the naysayers can have a slightly greener new warden. Everyone wins.

It's not that easy, and as for what Bioware is supposed to do? It's supposed to make $$$$. The risks of bringing back the warden(not to mention, the cost of accounting for so many variables) far outweigh any benefit. And then there is the problem of a ME3 style fandom meltdown. (Which was an embaressment to the company and a PR disaster).

[Panda]

I was glad to see my Hawke back although for blood mage he was grown to be quite hypocritical ^^; I'd be more positive than negative about having my Warden back as well and would be glad to see them voiced. I think Bioware would have harder time to do Wardens though, since there is no 3 personalities that they can go with though I'm not sure if they even went with those with Hawkes, at least my blue Hawke wasn't very diplomatic in DAI.

[Lee80]

This is becoming a worse blight on the board then the straight guys who are unhappy with their romance options.  Just saying...

 

I think at this point BioWare have been officially informed that people want the warden to come back.  I also truly believe that it is best for people to make peace with the fact that there's almost a zero percent chance it will ever happen.  It's way too much work for way too little pay off.  In fact I'm not sure there would be any pay off.  It would be such a huge cluster #%@#.  

 

Please go back and enjoy the 2 games staring the Warden or the 2 major  dlc also staring the Warden.  There is more content for the warden then any other character in Dragon Age (I believe).  Focus on what you have, and not what you can't have.  

[Terodil]

I don't know if I really want the warden back.

I mean, look at what happened to Revan, my beloved dark-side heroine from KoTOR. SWTOR made her into a him, changed the ending of KoTOR to lightside, turned him into a zealous madman, and then proceeded to have me kill him twice. Well the first kill attempt failed because plot armor, and the second failed because it was only a semi-kill... because, and now this gets interesting, his soul had spliced and one part was driving his body while the other was back-seat driving, so all I did was fuse them back together.

No thanks. Let my heroes rest in peace, unless you make a strong, direct sequel like in the ME trilogy.

Just my $.02 of course.

[PhroXenGold]

Please no. The Warden's story is done and dusted. Bioware need to put their time and effort into new stuff.

[SharpWalkers]

Why can't people just let the Hero of Fereldan go? He/she was way too much of a blank canvas for the player for it ever to work in a (voiced) NPC capacity. Hawke was managable in that regard, because that PC was a voiced character, with a grand total of 3 ways to reply. But it just wouldn't work with HoF.

[b10d1v]

Robert I agree with you, its a lack of vision, not some technical hurdle.  Just play his/her mission as the hero for example consistent with all the notes to Leliana.

I also have no passion for the politics, DA inquisition has so many issues covering everything from plot holes to technical performance and stability among various missing items and a shamefully inadequate quality assurance (QA) process. Theses are the reasons for backlash - our pockets!  Not some sugar coated pet peeve.

 

Oh, the warden was a healer OMG!  

They lobotomized healing in DAI and very sloppily throughout the plot - Clearly a "right hand not talking to the left".  Just take a note from "History of the World" - "she turned me into a newt, but I got better!"  So the inquisitions mage never learned healing, I can live with that, turmoil could easily account for some missing lessons.

 

I also see value in the counter arguments -there are plenty of characters -Use them!

[Nefla]

Bringing the warden back will only end in Revan-ization.

[Requiemslove]

HoF is not as complicated a character to bring back as people are saying. All it requires is imagination on biowares part, to match up specific story elements to correlate with how it relates to inquisition. As for the voice issue. I for one don't mind if the HoF has got a voice, and would in fact prefer just that.