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[DragonAgeLegend]

Honestly, another gaming forum I visit the devs are extremely active, they reply to almost anything they can answer, give us news and updates as to how things are going and actually take feedback and implement it into the game if many people agree with the idea.

Anyway, I don't see Bioware doing the same, we asked for a NORMAL auto attack where it's assigned to the right click and so you just right click each enemy and you auto attack them, but no, they had to do it with half the effort.

We've been asking for tooltips on the power bar and we get NO response.

I've been asking to be able to zoom in in combat and no response or anything.

I used to love Bioware so much, they made such awesome games and I wanted to support them till the end but it seems like it's a one way thing where our pleas are being mostly ignored. Do they not see this or are they intentionally ignoring it? It's bad enough the PC UI is clunky and doesn't function properly all the time and the game stutters randomly even with high end systems but seriously. UGHHHHH!

(Sorry I really needed to get this off my chest here and I hope people can understand where I am coming from.)

[X Equestris]

I'm sure they do, but the lack of actual responses is probably something to do with the way these forums can be sometimes. I mean, if I were a developer, I wouldn't want to post here, because anything you say is going to be twisted by people who have it out for you. Very little good can come of it, but a lot of bad can.

[line_genrou]

They kinda messed up their relationship with the fans (lying to the pc community being one of the things)

so yeah, people are probably going to respond harshly if they ever post anything

[DragonAgeLegend]

They kinda messed up their relationship with the fans (lying to the pc community being one of the things)
so yeah, people are probably going to respond harshly if they ever post anything

I think they should just take it on the chin, if I was a developer there I would always visit the forums to see what people have to say and what they would like changed.

They should just start with a clean slate here, the BSN isn't as harsh as it used to be.

[Nefla]

Nope, they don't.

[Sanunes]

I think they should just take it on the chin, if I was a developer there I would always visit the forums to see what people have to say and what they would like changed.

They should just start with a clean slate here, the BSN isn't as harsh as it used to be.

 

From my experience the moment a developer starts posting it will attract the people that will make the BSN into the toxic swamp it used to be.  Frankly with what we have seen in the changes with any BioWare game they know what we are posting and the changes we want to see, they just won't post here because it can derail threads or have their words twisted. Allan Schumacher posted a little while back that someone was using his posting history against another employee who was trying to post here and be of help.  Frankly I don't blame any employee not wanting that kind of communication with people, even if it might not be the majority of the players its enough to ruin your day.

[Gileadan]

They don't go to Ravenholm.

And I don't think much good would come from it. Relations with the fan base have deteriorated again, and they're probably on a tight DLC timetable or assigned to other projects anyway and thus not at liberty to react to forum requests.

Every game studio is a business. Some just make you feel it more than others.

I would love more transparency and dev interaction, but I think this is neither the place nor the company for it. Back to this week's "10 for the chairman"...

[Lebanese Dude]

No whenever they showed up people cried a river and pushed them into it.

[AshenSugar]

They used to interact on the forums a great deal. This is no longer the case.

 

Actually I'd be very, very surprised if any Bioware staff read the forums at all.

[kingjezza]

They'll all return when they're trying to sell you DA4.

 

Can't say I really blame them, it took me about 50 hours before I was utterly sick of DAI, they had to spend years with their head buried in this game, give me Chinese water torture.

 

EDIT: I always thought Allen Schumacher was pretty cool though, never got the sense he solely posted on here to sell a product, like Laidlaw or somebody, he genuinely seemed to enjoy the interaction.

[Sotaklas]

They don't post here since Dragon Age 2 and Mass Effect 3.... ww3 had started in these forums, and the devs left.

[Lebanese Dude]

They'll all return when they're trying to sell you DA4.

 

Can't say I really blame them, it took me about 50 hours before I was utterly sick of DAI, they had to spend years with their head buried in this game, give me Chinese water torture.

 

EDIT: I always thought Allen Schumacher was pretty cool though, never got the sense he solely posted on here to sell a product, like Laidlaw or somebody, he genuinely seemed to enjoy the interaction.

 

Exhibit A.

[wolfsite]

Problem is these days when an employee posts people dissect that post then start taking things out of context and start saying things were promised that never were and the employee normally just gets swamped or just gets a lot of abuse by people going "You don't listen" "You are not doing what I want" etc.

 

 

Hell last time Bioware tried to offer an olive branch here people were just taking photos they posted and photoshopped them to make it look like they were throwing fan feedback into fires or into the paper shredder.

 

It's probably just a small amount of people but it just takes a few people to ruin it for everyone.

 

 

Some Bioware employees have stated that there is just too many media outlets to keep up with though so they stick with just one like Twitter.

[SimonTheFrog]

Well...

 

It IS a bit frustrating to see all the devs here before release basking in the glory of the hypetrain and then nobody, literally nobody when the game is out and stuff gets more complicated and there's a lot of stuff people are not happy with.

 

But also, some people have too little respect for the efforts the devs put into the game and attack the devs personally, often for stuff that may be ugly but is just not worth fighting for in that intensity. So, it's understandable to not come here "for fun".

 

Still, they know how important it is for us forumites to get acknowledged and how important it is to comment on ongoing issues. So, maybe they should try to weather the shitstorm a bit more bravely in order to build trust.... you know, gain allies and all.

[Suledin]

It's a secret. Everything is a lie here. Even the Elven lore. 

[Lebanese Dude]

 

Still, they know how important it is for us forumites to get acknowledged and how important it is to comment on ongoing issues. So, maybe they should try to weather the shitstorm a bit more bravely in order to build trust.... you know, gain allies and all.

 

They are pretty active on Twitter, which is much easier to handle and far more effective a platform than forums could ever be.

 
The forums are there for fans to congregate and discuss the game in a moderated environment. Whichever developer comes here is more often than not doing it on their own accord.

 

[Dieb]

If you use "BioWare" in the thread title, they are involuntarily being summoned.

 

They also have an emergency notification filter triggered by "EAware", "Last straw", "ruined", "leaving" and whatever starts with "Why [...] ?" or

"So I guess [...]"

 

That's just the lowdown, different rules apply for when they're skimming your groups and PMs.

[CronoDragoon]

They read a lot of the forums, they just don't respond much. OP focuses only on things they haven't implemented and ignores everything they have, which is typical behavior for a disgruntled consumer.

[SimonTheFrog]

They are pretty active on Twitter, which is much easier to handle and far more effective a platform than forums could ever be.

 
The forums are there for fans to congregate and discuss the game in a moderated environment. Whichever developer comes here is more often than not doing it on their own accord.

 

Yes sure, i'm lurking the twitter thread regularily. But those are quite often friendly in-jokes and rather personal remarks. This is not necessarily "talking to the community" in an (semi)-official capacity. It's fine, don't get me wrong. And on very few occasions they answer relevant questions there so yeah.

 

And of course its voluntarily and that's why its understandable that they would be here often when the mood is hyped and stay away when it's not. All i'm saying is that it would benefit the dev team too when they would show up occasionally.

 

There's always somebody that will attack each dev with his or her pet-agenda, but there is also a big group of lurkers that would just be happy reading news and comments from the devs.

 

I dunno, it's complicated, i get it...

[SomeoneStoleMyName]

They are fearful of posting because anything they say can and will be used against them. 

They can't even say "Hi " without someone somewhere managing to turn this into a negative "Atrocity by the devs to say hi on the forums!!!".

[Dieb]

I find it kind of funny how they find the time to surf around the internets and say "Hi" when after 6 patches I still can't map my left keyboard to my right keyboard.

 

I paid money for this.

[Realmzmaster]

The developers use to come to this forum quite often. Allen would drop in on different threads. I had conversations with David Gaider, Mike Laidlaw and John Epler. Mary Kirby would drop in from time to time.

 

But, certain posters ruined it for the rest of us. Some of the developers actually got death threats after certain posts. Posters were saying all the developers should get fired.Then there was the ME3 ending and the whole forum became toxic. 

 

Posters who defended DA2 as not being that bad were called everything from fools to idiots.

 

Posters started using other developers words (who were trying to help) against other developers (who were trying to help). It simply got ugly. Now Allen occasionally drops in on certain threads usually to warn us to keep it civil.

 

It is a shame that a few ruined it for the rest of us. Allen would actually allow threads to continue because he knew the posters in it would keep it civil.

[Bizantura]

As an european I had to wait a few days longer then the american release.  I visited this forum just a few hours after release.  The forum was allready toxic by people who had non stop negative critique.  I doubt those people even got past the character creation.  It simmered down about 3 to 5 days later when people appeared who actually played the whole game and came in writing their opinions.

 

Sad to say but times have changed dramaticly and being negative is in and being civil is out.  It seems to be a group thing too.

[Sanunes]

As an european I had to wait a few days longer then the american release.  I visited this forum just a few hours after release.  The forum was allready toxic by people who had non stop negative critique.  I doubt those people even got past the character creation.  It simmered down about 3 to 5 days later when people appeared who actually played the whole game and came in writing their opinions.

 

Sad to say but times have changed dramaticly and being negative is in and being civil is out.  It seems to be a group thing too.

 

I am not sure where the trend started, but it feels like people want any game to be completely niche driven anymore and check every box they have in their head for a perfect game. Even with Dragon Age: Inquisition the way I read many different posts around here its mandatory to complete every single side quest and optional objective for the game and since people don't like the side quests BioWare seems to be forcing them to do content they don't like.

 

What I have always found funny is you read message boards and you see the comments about "how 'x' game should be like 'y' game" and then when those changes happen you get " 'x' game is too much like 'y' game why can't you make original games" or other things along those lines.

[Sah291]

The forum kinda has a bad rep for being toxic, negative...and sometimes just plain...weird (Tali sweat?!). I haven't really been here long, but that's what I had heard about this place. I guess things got bad in particular around DA2/ME3, and I imagine fighting over the whole gamergate thing. Now that I've been here a bit, it doesn't seem quite as bad as I've heard, though I have definitely seen some toxicity here and elsewhere, so I could understand them not wanting to come here anymore if that is the reason. It's too bad, there are some good and thoughtful discussions going on as well.