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[Tali1701]

As far as in-game mechanics go, I know you can never change your specialization, but if you choose to become a Templar, does the game ever give you a chance to at least state an intention to get off of lyrium someday?

 

(very minor spoilers about Cullen's personal questline)

Spoiler

So, this was my first time playing a warrior and my character was very excited to be a templar...so excited that she ignored Cullen's warnings.  I've sort of been letting her decide how her story will turn out, and after hearing more of Cullen's perspective, I feel like she's regretting her decision.  I don't want to reload an old save or actually change my specialization; I'd just love the chance to say, "You know what?  You're right.  I'm going to stop taking it once we've saved the world."  I don't suppose I'll ever get an option to say that, will I?

 

Cassandra herself said that Cullen's quest to break his lyrium addiction was important because it will prove that it's possible to other templars, including perhaps even the Inquisitor.

 

In case it's relevant, I'm also romancing Cullen.  (That seems to add a few extra lines of dialog on the subject.)

[LightningPoodle]

Nope. Unlike Cullen, the Inquisitor knows what will happen if you go down that path. It's kind off like "If I do this, there is no going back."

[SgtSteel91]

Even if there's no in-game consequences to being a Templar, Lyrium Addiction turned my Inquisitor off of being a Templar, even if that power would be helpful in closing rifts. Oh well, that's what Cassandra's there for.

 

I like the Champion spec anyhow.

 

"It's good to be Champion!"

[Tali1701]

Well that sucks.

 

Again, mild spoilers:

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I managed to get my templar specialization so fast that I completely missed the option to ask him about the drawbacks ahead of time.  I tried to ask him about it first, but I kept getting cutscenes instead of a dialog wheel.  Now he's mad at me that I didn't ask him first and she's just now learning that she'll likely lose her memories and maybe even forget him.  I feel a little sick.

 

As Cassandra said, he's proving something that a lot of people thought wasn't possible.  Poor Cullen's been through enough; I think it would have been neat to see other templars--the Inquisitor included--take his example to heart and follow suit, sort of an external confirmation that he made a difference.

 

Thanks so much for the info; it's nice to know ahead of time, at least.

[Boost32]

I think if you say ar first for him to go back to Lyrium, later you can tell him to quit it after Corypheus is defeated and say you will quit it too.

[Excella Gionne]

This was the reason why I didn't take the Templar Specialization. I didn't like the Reave Specialization, either, therefore the Champion Specialization was my pick.

[Arlee]

I haven't seen an option to say that on my Templar IQ of course I haven't gotten all the way through the game on him yet I have seen one nifty thing so far.

 

During the first part of Perseverance when you are talking with Cass she will make a comment about how if Cullen can succeed in getting off lyrium he'll give others who wish to make the same choice hope, and then she follows that up with "a choice you might one day wish to make as well". I thought that was a pretty cool addition.

 

Apparently later there will be a war table mission where you can choose to put the regular Inquisition forces on Lyrium or not as well. Haven't done that one yet though.

[ctd757]

Hmmm think I might play a Templar now.

[Archdemon_Urthemiel]

Interesting that dwarf inquisitors have a line sayin that dwarves are resistant to lyrium. Maybe dwarves aren't as addicted as other races?

[Nehn]

This would make for an interesting fan fiction ... 

[Boost32]

Interesting that dwarf inquisitors have a line sayin that dwarves are resistant to lyrium. Maybe dwarves aren't as addicted as other races?

No, they dont.
Ser says he heard it before from anothers dwarfs, but they became addicted any way.

[Tali1701]

I haven't seen an option to say that on my Templar IQ of course I haven't gotten all the way through the game on him yet I have seen one nifty thing so far.

 

During the first part of Perseverance when you are talking with Cass she will make a comment about how if Cullen can succeed in getting off lyrium he'll give others who wish to make the same choice hope, and then she follows that up with "a choice you might one day wish to make as well". I thought that was a pretty cool addition.

I thought that was neat too   That was about the point in time I started hoping for an option to take her up on it, hah.

 

 

I think if you say ar first for him to go back to Lyrium, later you can tell him to quit it after Corypheus is defeated and say you will quit it too.

I backed up to an earlier save and tried this.  It's a little murky.  Here's what happens:

 

Spoiler

So, during Perseverence, tell Cullen to start taking the lyrium.  There are a few tones you can take when you do this, so you probably want to avoid the mean/cold ones; since I'm romancing him, I took the heart option: this leads the Inquisitor to say that she cares what he wants, not just what's best for the Inquisition, and you get a big decision wheel with the options:

A) "Don't risk it.  Take lyrium." (Cullen takes lyrium)

"Don't give up." (Cullen will not take lyrium)

For this test, I took A: the Inquistor says "I can't watch you die.  Please, Cullen.  Take the lyrium."  He acquiesces with a resigned look.

 

He'll ask for some time afterwards, but the next cutscene is in the armory as he's looking at swords.  He seems resigned to his course: not happy about it, but not angry.  He will eventually say, "Are you leashed until the day you die, or lyrium takes your mind away?"  At this point, you get a big decision wheel with three options:

A) "You chose this life" (Cullen will keep taking lyrium)

"We'll find a safer way. After."  (Cullen will keep taking lyrium for now)

C) "I was wrong about the lyrium."  (Cullen will stop taking lyrium)

 

- Choosing A will make him take it forever, and will break off any romance.

- Choosing B results in the Inquisitor saying that there must be a safer way, and when this war is over, "We'll find it.  I promise."  As far as I can tell from youtube videos, the Inquisitor will use the pronoun "we" regardless of his/her class & specialization, implying that the Inquisitor isn't saying "We'll get off of this together", but rather "I'll stand by you and help you get off of it yourself."  Romance can continue.

- Choosing C results in the Inquistor reversing her stance: she says "Then stop!"  Cullen is taken aback and says "No, I need to focus on the Inquisition."  She retorts that he will, "but on your terms, no one else's."  He agrees.  Romance can continue.

 

If you later bring up the fact that you're a templar with him, he will still point out that you may lose your memories.  I haven't yet seen any suggestion aside from Cassandra's quote that the Inquisitor might get off of it someday.

 

If you make him stop taking it completely (I'm unsure what happens if you take the intermediate "take it for now"), there is a mention in the epilogue that other templars followed his lead and got off of it.  Since I've never played the game as a templar before, I don't know if the epilogue ever references the Inquisitor being a templar or what he/she might have done about the addiction.

 

Gah!  I just finished terribly tragic playthrough with an elven Inquisitor: every zone was a reminder of how her people had been ground into dust, and she romanced Solas to boot.  It was beautiful, but so sad, so this time around, I made a super cute, playful girl all enthused about being a templar who was SUPPOSED to end up with Sera. Helping people!  Pranks!  Jokes!  Screw long term consequences!  And then she screwed it up by falling for Cullen instead and now everyone's miserable.

 

You ever have one of those terrible dreams where it's the end of the semester and you forgot to attend a class or made some horrible mistake you can never fix?  And then you wake up and are SO relieved to realize it never happened?  I think I'm going to undo about 20 hours of gameplay and call it one of those bad dreams: this time she'll listen to Cullen's advice, give up on being a templar, and we can all live happily ever after.  A heartbreaking story is all well and good sometimes, but I want a happy ending today, dammit.