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My thoughts are that in the game it is stated a few times that every organisation with power will eventually abuse it however good their intentions may have been at the beginning. You also get asked what you want to do with the Inquisition after Corys defeat. Plus if you drink from the water your main Char essentially becomes a puppet serving the whims of a god.

 

I feel that this is a foreshadowing of a potential sequel. They do not have to become the main villain, but i can certainly imagine something going wrong with all that power concentrated into one.



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My thoughts are that in the game it is stated a few times that every organisation with power will eventually abuse it however good their intentions may have been at the beginning. You also get asked what you want to do with the Inquisition after Corys defeat. Plus if you drink from the water your main Char essentially becomes a puppet serving the whims of a god.

 

I feel that this is a foreshadowing of a potential sequel. They do not have to become the main villain, but i can certainly imagine something going wrong with all that power concentrated into one.

Been wondering that myself as well, although I just headcanon my Inquisitor goes "Screw you guys I'm  goin' home!" and drops the Inquisitor title. I am anxious of her holding so much responsibilities, lives and power, she can't handle that, nobody can I think.


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I would love for the Inquisitor and the Inquisition to be the antagonist of (one of) the next games, to have everyone rage how out of character he acts until it is revealed he was replaced by an envy demon.


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I mean, they have already done this with the Grey Wardens.  Heroes from the first game become panicked and end up using blood magic due to their fear.  Since they've done this already, I can see them upping the scale and possibly having the next game be about the rest of Tevinter having to come in and shut the Inquisition down (the Human character is from nobility, and would therefore be unlikely to give up his/her throne due to there being peace in the region).



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I think trying to shut down the Inquisition would make me quite sad, since I spent an entire game building it. I hated hearing bad things about the Wardens in DAI. But add me to the Let's Play a Tevinter list.


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The GWs were never - aside from Alistair's fantasy and their good propaganda among non-GWs - meant to be heroes. I mean, sure, Cailan thinks they're heroes, but Cailain is a particularly notable idiot. Other than that, we don't see them do anything heroic, and in fact, we get beaten over the head in DA:O with all the gritty things they do on an ends-justify-the-means scale.

 

The Inquisition is a lot lighter and softer than the GWs, and it also doesn't have the additional issue of having an ongoing threat that it has to make sacrifices to defeat (since the Inquisition wins outright at the end of DA:I - no more rifts). 


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I think trying to shut down the Inquisition would make me quite sad, since I spent an entire game building it. I hated hearing bad things about the Wardens in DAI. But add me to the Let's Play a Tevinter list.

 

If we played as Tevinter, we probably WOULD have to shut down the Inquisition though.  If you listen to Dorian, they hated the Chantry (since the Chantry blames the Imperium for the blights).  Since the Inquisition bases itself off of Andrastian teachings, it is a natural enemy to Tevinter.



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And it wouldn't be the first time Dragon Age crushed my dreams.  :D



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The GWs were never - aside from Alistair's fantasy and their good propaganda among non-GWs - meant to be heroes. I mean, sure, Cailan thinks they're heroes, but Cailain is a particularly notable idiot. Other than that, we don't see them do anything heroic, and in fact, we get beaten over the head in DA:O with all the gritty things they do on an ends-justify-the-means scale.

 

The Inquisition is a lot lighter and softer than the GWs, and it also doesn't have the additional issue of having an ongoing threat that it has to make sacrifices to defeat (since the Inquisition wins outright at the end of DA:I - no more rifts). 

 

It kind of depends on what you mean by hero.  Sure, they do questionable things in pursuit of their goal, but that goal is still nothing less than saving the world from annihilation.  They aren't knights in shining armor certainly, but I'm still inclined to consider them heroes.

 

As to the actual topic, I would be pretty annoyed with this.  If the next game has to explore the whole "power corrupts" thing, I would hope they could do it in a more subtle way.  I don't need to see another respected order undone by their flaws, especially so soon after the Grey Wardens.  I think it would be refreshing to see the Inquisition follow in its predecessor's footsteps and either do a swords into plowshares kind of thing or form itself into something like a better version of the templars or seekers.



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I guess very much is depending on what the Inquisitor is doing after the main event. He is after all for the common people something like a savior send by the maker perhaps even a reincarnation of Andraste for some.



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That would be super lame. Leave the inquisition as it is for know. It did good and hopefully it can still do. To have the inquisition as the next villain would be so upsetting.

Though playing as a tevinter would be cool, add to that the possibility to slaughter qunaris and i'm sold.
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I think it'll go dark, or complacent, and I hope it does.

 

But perhaps not evil. A big thing in Bioware games seems to be the "Not this time!" idea.

 

More like... it gets bogged down in complications. Things can only go so 'high' for them. There will be a fall. When it happens, I dunno. DLC? Next game? A process game-by-game? I just want something to happen.

 

 

I don't want it as the next villain. I also don't want it to desperately turn to evil actions like the southern GWs. But chipped away until it becomes something else (arguably this happened to the first Inquisition)? Yes. But again, it won't be the SAME as before.


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Sounds like an awesome idea. I've had the faint feeling all along that Dragon Age's Inquisition has the potential to be every bit as brutal as it's predecessor or the real world Inquisition. The road to hell is paved with good intentions, as the saying goes. I could get right behind the idea of a game where the Inquisition turns bad and I have to destroy it.

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I could easily see the Inquisition kinda losing its way now that the main reason for their existence, Coryfish, is gone. 

 

Hell, it's a theme of sorts in the game. Mother Giselle says that the Inquisition puts their swords away whn they were no longer needed. Might be we'll get a DLC (the final one?) where we decide the future of the Inquisition and have it reflected in future games.

 

I wouldn't like the Inquisiton to be outright villains next time, however. Bioware doesn't need to pull a Cerberus on us again.


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I wonder how people would have felt if the Warden replaced Clarel if alive, and died the same way.
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I wonder how people would have felt if the Warden replaced Clarel if alive, and died the same way.

 

Don't you mean He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named?

 

I don't have a reaction right now. Maybe because it's hard to imagine. When I first found out about how Here Lies the Abyss ends, there was weeping and gnashing of teeth at my computer. But that's because there's a direct choice involved.



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I wouldn't like the Inquisiton to be outright villains next time, however. Bioware doesn't need to pull a Cerberus on us again.

 

Cerberus was the villain during the original ME, as well as in ME3.  It just so happens that you used their resources during ME2 - you were playing as part of a single terrorist cell (The Lazarus Cell), while there were others doing things such as attempting to enslave the geth by torturing autistic children.  Cerberus was never the good guys.

 

But I digress, these aren't the Mass Effect forums



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Inquisition turning evil from the power its amassed could be awesome. They think they're doing things for the greater good, but nobody asked them what's best for all...



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Maybe Bioware will make an expansion where someone (the new Divine would be a good choice) usurpes the Inquisitor? That, or the Inquisition splinters.



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Been wondering that myself as well, although I just headcanon my Inquisitor goes "Screw you guys I'm  goin' home!" and drops the Inquisitor title. I am anxious of her holding so much responsibilities, lives and power, she can't handle that, nobody can I think.


It could be a internal struggle for power like in the ancient rome or Greece.

Every single organization or monarch that gains power is ALWAYS under threat and even succumb for it a internal power struggle where one party seeks to take over.

IT has to be the same here as well.

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A risky move although it makes sense.



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I wouldn't want my Inquisitor to be villain (except maybe one of them who is righteous fanatic who also totally believes being Andraste's chosen). The Inquisition, on the other hand... 

The next game could feature either disposed inquisitor (which solves the problem with having too much power), or a new hero as protagonist, and take place in northern Thedas. If you play as Inquisitor, they run there to save their lives or whatever, becoming some kind of vigilante, as for the new hero, they could be from various northern origin (tevinter slave/magister, vashoth, kal-sharok dwarf, etc). 

 

But then I don't see Inquisition as the main evil power, probably just as organization collaborating/secretly ruled by the main enemy or inadvertently helping to accomplish enemy goals due to its internal corruption.



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The only way I see this working properly is to have it be something like the Hydra plot, because simply having the past protagonist become corrupt and antagonistic because reasons is ridiculous and cheap. But, for something like that, I wouldn't want it unless we got to play the Inquisitor again. I don't want to deal directly with conflicts within the Inquisition without being in control over the Inquisitor him/herself.



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Mind Controlled Inquisitor or Morrigan as an antagonist depending on who drank from the well could work.  That wouldn't be "because reasons" that'd be a logical consequence of your prior choices.

 

As for the organisation itself, I'd rather like to have the option for the Inquisitor to wind it up.  It's purpose is fulfilled.  If it has to remain, I'd say they should wait a good few games to have it really start to go wrong.