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So what's your (living) HoF doing during and after DAI?


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With the rise of all these "bring back the HoF" post demanding Bioware to pull the strings of the HoF, I wanted to counter that a bit and see what the community has done with/thought for their Wardens without Bioware's involvement.


So I'd like to ask, if your Warden is alive, what do you headcanon them doing during DAI and after DAI? Do you follow Bioware's guidelines and have them search for a cure or do you have them doing something completely else?

If they're doing anything in particular, do they have any specific reasons or motivations to do this?

Did/do they have direct contact with the Inquisitor or Hawke? If yes, what's their relationship like?


Would be interesting to see how everyone's Wardens has progressed beyond DA:A.

 

Bonus question; Do you have multiple Wardens, if yes; do you have a story for them? Personally I've never managed to think up a story for anything beyond my canon Warden, so I'm curious how other people have handled this.


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A bit of a mixed headcanon and canon for me in regards my Wardens: My Dalish Warden and Zevran are finally united after years and so she is helping him deal with the Crows so the two can live a life in relative peace. Maybe she comes across something that suggest a cure for the Calling but she is not going to dedicate what remains of her life to the chase of it so she might just pass it along to the other Wardens. She's made peace with what might be her end so she wants to enjoy life without having to focus on.

 

When the rifts began appearing where she was, my Warden decided to help people and combat the demons since she had experience with it and since she was also the un(holy) combination of a Templar, Reaver and Spirit Warrior, she had abilities that could give her an advantage. When she heard of the Inquisition, it was already holding its own so it seemed better to counter the chaos where she was and when she was contacted by Leliana, she was too busy caught up with the Crows to be able to travel and help.    


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Searching for a cure seemed like a cheap and easy way to get rid of the warden. 

 

In my eyes, my warden was on the run through the world with Zevran righting wrongs, killing darkspawn, and keeping the world a better place while recruiting more friends and fellow Wardens. I don't see my warden searching for a cure because I basically accepted she'd die and thus she accepted it. And, the way I saw it, with the setting that Dragon Age is in, it seems like people died young so, whatevs.  



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Probably as jaded if not more than a warden alistair.



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Before they went to search for a cure, they were ruling in Denerim alongside Queen Anora and trying to produce an heir. 



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My Warden is out looking for a cure with her old crew while trying to find more who are willing to join the Warden ranks.

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It depends of what we learn about the lands outside of Thedas in WOT vol. 2


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My living warden had settled into the role of king alongside queen Anora but there were troubles upon his crowned head. The blight was over and yet the darkspawn never really left. The events with the Architect and Mother proved this. But then he had to make a decision. The Calling would one day claim him and just like he had done before, he looked to the dark arts. To Morrigan. He had loved her. Well loved her still in fact and she had his child. One he had never seen and might never know. Should he spend the last of his years trying to have children with queen anora? Only abandon them and the kingdom when he at last ventured into the deeproads for that final glorious death?

 

Nothing about my HoF suggests he will accept such a fate. Instead one night he vanished. Ferelden was in good hands with the queen. He searched for Morrigan. Following clues and eventually found her waiting before a mirror. She could help him prolong his life just as she had once saved it some years before. But he was not selfish in all this. His main hope was that even if together they found no cure, he would die by her side. And he would have been a father to his son.

 

Did he meet any of the others afterwards? Its hard to say. Alistair was banished from Ferelden as some thought he might try and take the throne. Everyone else had moved on as well. After the events of Awakening, he also lost touch with Oghren and the friends he had made under his command.

 

Only Morrigan truly knows where he is now. But I suspect its in Tevinter. After all... that's where it all began.


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Shortly after Awakening, my Mahariel left her post as Warden Commander to continue adventuring the world with her lover, Leliana, but once she got the call to become Left Hand of the Divine three years later, I figure she returned and was reinstated as Commander, much as she disapproved of the notion. Despite being Commander of the Grey in Ferelden and Arlessa of Amaranthine, she would have spent next to no time in Vigil's Keep, instead going back and forth between Warden duties all over Ferelden, doing tasks for the crown, and spending as much time as she could in Orlais with Leliana. Nathaniel probably took up the slack for a great deal of her responsibilities, and when she did show up in Vigil's Keep to do work she would always be distant and disinterested, her rather erratic lifestyle and her constant worries about the path Leliana is going down wearing her down. 

 

Eventually she would have simply decided enough is enough, while starting to becoming fearful of the taint inside of her having seen her greatest childhood friend withering and dying from the blight, and was afraid of leaving Leliana alone in the world, and thus after a long discussion with her, started to scour anywhere she could for clues on how one might cure themselves of the Calling forever, eventually taking her far beyond the reaches of known Thedas, thought to be missing for years now.

 

After DA:I? I like to think she returns having found what she was searching for, and Leliana leaves the Inquisition to stay with her for good, like she said she planned to at the beginning of DA:I. After ten years, they can finally live like they wanted. I'm hesitant to get too attached to that thought, however, because chances are BioWare will just bring Leliana back in the next game and ruin that ending anyway. Here's hoping they don't. 


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After the death of the Mother, my warden went after Morrigan to deal with the issue of the child they had together. After leaving with Morrigan, he abandoned the post of warden commander of Ferelden. But he realized he didn't want to live only for his son to see him die a couple of decades later. So, he followed the trail Avernus left behind to find a cure for his calling. He would not die of this curse that Duncan forced upon him.

 

As of after Inquisition, that is were the big question mark lies. I don't see this whole cure of the calling deal being resolved in an satisfatory manner with iddle dialogue from NPCs alone. I believe this is something we should witness ourselfs. But then again , half of the fandom shrieks over the simple suggestion of this idea.


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My story for the Hero King of Ferelden is consistent with the official version. He never wanted to be a Warden and disapproves of how the Wardens run things. He took over the Wardens in Amaranthine to set them on a proper course. He also established the Silver Order.

 

He ruled jointly with his love, Queen Anora, for about eight years and then told her he had to leave to find a cure for the taint. According to Inquisition, Morrigan is the one who gives the Hero the lead on where to find the cure, and this only could have happened in Witch Hunt. He said goodbye to his friend and they parted on good terms (Morrigan lies to the Inquisitor about parting on bad terms). I think my Hero would have consulted with Avernus on the information Morrigan supplied. Maybe the research took a while before the Hero was sure that searching for the cure was the best answer. Maybe he wanted to find out if Avernus could make the cure himself.

 

Anyway, Queen Anora knew that her husband didn't really disappear. That was just the story they had to tell, even to Leliana despite her being a trusted friend and hero of the Fifth Blight. Only the Inquisition making contact with him, thanks to Morrigan spilling the beans, is what made the Hero respond to the letter.

 

My Hero of Ferelden seeks the cure in order to help the Wardens and himself. The love he and Anora share is genuine and too rare in a world like Thedas to end so early. He intends to live a long full life with her. Again, he never wanted to be a Warden, and he sees corruption far darker than the taint in the Warden ranks. Curing the taint will release many good men and women from the bindings they've been placed under.

 

So the cure story fits my Hero just fine.

 

It also fits my second Hero, a bloodmage who obtained the Power of Blood and romanced Morrigan and completed the Dark Ritual. Theoretically he is safe from the taint already because he allied with Avernus and accepted the rewards of his research. He also encouraged more of it. Would he use the cure on himself? Of course not. He draws power from the taint. He will live for ages, like Avernus did. He will tap into new types of magic and increase his own abilities further.

 

But this Hero of mine is an opportunist, and he cares mainly about himself and his own power. He seeks the cure in order to profit from it. Having the cure could bring many Wardens under his control. If he could find a way to mix it with his blood magic, then perhaps he can create an army of loyal followers compelled to do his bidding. Worse case scenario, he merely becomes richer from it.

 

Boy will he be mad when he meets back up with Morrigan and finds out about Flemeth taking Kieran's old god soul. More so if she's a mind slave to Mythal. Maybe he will use blood magic on her. There will be blood.


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My canon Warden, Faren Brosca, split his time between running the new noble House Brosca in Orzammar, running his Arling and the Order of the Grey in Amaranthine, and raising Kieran with Morrigan. Among his more notable adventures was breaking into Branka's fortress at the Anvil of the Void after she stopped obeying King Bhelen. When Morrigan gave him a lead to find a cure for the Callimg, he jumped at the opportunity and departed for unknown lands. If he returns, he'll find a Southern Thedas sorely in need of Wardens after most of them died between Adamant and war table missions. As Warden-Commander of Orlais, he'll work to restore the order's good name.

Another notable Warden was Kallian Tabris. After her beloved Alistair died to kill the Archdemon, she became Arl and Warden-Commander, but also Bann of the Alienage. She's spent the last ten years lobbying Queen Anora and the Landsmeet to improve conditions for elves with some success. She married the son of the Hahren of Highever to promote unity between Ferelden's elves, but doesn't actually care for him much. Learning of the possibility for a cure to the Calling, she eagerly departed for distant lands to find it. She hopes that he cure will allow her to have a child to whom the title of Bann can be passed.
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My Warden is out looking for a cure with her old crew while trying to find more who are willing to join the Warden ranks.

 

Aren't the two things basically against one another?

 

On the outset permit me to clarify that I don't agree with the theories that you can remain a Grey Warden after curing yourself of the taint. Or at least you're no more a Grey Warden than any recruit is before their Joining ceremony.

So while it can be argued that the HoF has decided to leave the Warden ranks himself but is still looking for people who want to join, I doubt the other Wardens would look kindly on such a recruiter.

 

By making our HoF look for the cure BW basically tied our hands and have forced on our HoF, the desire to leave the Warden ranks. And DAI's plot line, deliberately or accidentally reinforces this. I mean all the Wardens in Southern Thedas are in jeopardy, but the HoF is away on his own personal mission, which is rather selfish. Even Morrigan is surprised (although pleasantly) when they don't find the HoF during the siege of Adamant with other GW.

I'm also certain that if the HoF plot line is continued further in future games, they will come up with plausible reasons for why they wanted to leave the Wardens.



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Post DA:O my Warden (Talion Surana, Male Elf Mage) was Chancellor to King Alistair and Queen Anora. He served the royal crown as a trusted military and arcane adviser, and his insight/input was always sought after and held in high regard by the King and Queen.

 

He stepped down from his position as Chancellor to the royal crown, where Arl Eamon succeeded him, when he was given a decree from the First Warden at Weisshaupt that he has been promoted to Warden Commander of Fereldan.

 

Post DA:A, Talion continued to serve as Warden Commander of Fereldan, administrating the recruitment of new Wardens and overseeing the reconstruction of the lands of Amaranthine and Gwaren, both previously owned by disgraced and deceased traitors to Fereldan. 

 

Sometime during the events of DA:2, Talion went on a search for Morrigan, his former lover and the mother of his child. True to her word, Morrigan disappeared after the death of the Archdemon, and Talion had finally found a lead on her when encountering a Dalish warrior named Ariane. Events lead to Talion finding Morrigan as she is activating an eluvian. Although she shows hesitance, Talion insists that he wishes to become involved in her life as well as his son's. Morrigan accepts, and they travel through the eluvian into "worlds in between."

 

For now, the story concludes when Talion's blight is starting to catch up with him. Although he is a Mage, he refuses to use blood magic to extend his lifespan. Following a lead Morrigan has found, Talion left for Western Lands to discover a cure for The Calling.

 

Before he left, he made sure to leave emergency contact info with his three most trusted companions; Morrigan, Alistair, and Leliana. Only they could reach him, if need be.


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After defeating the Archdemon, Reyne Cousland begrudgingly took on the role of Warden-Commander at Vigil's Keep, and once the Mother and the Architect were wiped out, she's decided that she had enough of that life and had no interest in some glorious final battle in the blighted Deep Roads. After Leliana and she parted ways, she went onward to the tedious journey of digging up any information available to find the solution to the darkspawn corruption, hopefully free of fighting monsters, and instead muscling through the horror that is talking to scholars with dry, hoarse voices. Of course, she isn't alone. Bear, who replaces her first beloved mabari Golem, is keeping her company through it all.

 

She will always keep in touch with closest friend Alistair, whom she promised to provide counsel whenever she could, though she has faith that Anora will do the job just fine. As for Morrigan, keeping up to date is spotty at best, though her letters are never wanting for interesting tales. Zevran is pretty much off the map, though he swore he would show up one day once he believes his task is done, though she expects he may not live to see that day. Oghren was usually good for a flagon or two whenever their paths may cross.

 

As for the Inquisitor, she only knows her through Leliana. Until her quest is complete, she can't deviate too far from her path, but who knows what'll happen. She knows the Champion vaguely through reputation, but the most interesting, and indeed infuriating bit is news of her friend Anders.


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Emrien Mahariel is out looking for the cure so he and hopefully others can live full lives, maybe regain some virility while their at it. Then he's retiring to live happily ever after with Leliana, their 3 children, his new Mabari pup Riordan, and their nugs: Boulette and Schmooples II.

After the honeymoon tour of Thedas, he will purchase an estate on the outskirts of Denerim, where he shall recount stories of his adventuring days to his children as he pretends to fish by the pond in his backyard with King Alistair. The pond has no fish.

He has no intention of getting himself involved in any further crises or apocalyptic shenanigans, save giving advice to Alistair from time to time, thank you very much. Good Day.


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Kaetlessa Aubreck: I am war torn her being infected despite being queen of Ferelden or her questing for a cure despite being queen of ferelden

 

Moonphase Demoir: Probably pulling a old Morrigan. She had the one village in DAA so she wouldn't give a hoot about playing good guy.

 

Vayhura Dite and Lefsexieta: I would kind of leave this to BIOWARE because these two are written story characters I came up with years ago so whatever they come up with may add more of a storyline to my characters anyway.

 

Goketsu Remsurge: Well he didn't become king even though I wanted him to so i'm keeping him as a vagabond.  



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My original headcanon (before DA:I) was that he would remain the Warden Commander of Ferelden, and Ferelden's Chancellor. Some thirty-odd years after the events of DA:O he would begin to hear the Calling, and after exchanging a final farewell with Leliana and Fergus, he would depart for the Deep Roads with King Alistair, Nathaniel Howe, Oghren, Sigrun, Bethany Hawke, and a resurfaced Velanna. All of them, having undergone the Joining not far apart, would be on their Calling. They'd be joined by nearly the entire chapter of Ferelden Wardens, which by then would be over one hundred members. They'd be on a mission to help the dwarves reclaim a lost thaig. The Wardens, along with some members of the Legion of the Dead, would hold a strategic main artery in the Deep Roads against thousands of darkspawn, preventing them from reinforcing the thaig while King Bhelen's forces conducted the main attack. The most senior Wardens or those on their Joining, would be in the front ranks.

 

Despite being massively outnumbered the Wardens would repel multiple assaults, using their training and discipline and terrain that functioned like a choke point, to counter the much greater numbers of darkspawn. Basically it would play out similar to this. Eventually the greater numbers of the darkspawn would begin to take their toll, and one by one the heroes would fall amidst a mountain of slain darkspawn. The Hero of Ferelden and Oghren would be the last two left and nursing multiple wounds, but would finally collapse while cutting down a darkspawn general. While all the heroes on their Calling would die, they and the other Wardens would buy enough time for Bhelen's forces to reclaim the thaig. 

 

Their names would be recorded in the Memories and their heroic feats celebrated by the dwarves in song. The surviving Wardens and a dwarven honor guard would escort their bodies back to Ferelden, where both Alistair and the Hero of Ferelden would get state funerals. The Hero of Ferelden's ashes are later carried by the Wardens to Weisshaupt, where they are entombed next to Garahel and the greatest heroes of the order.


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I actually like this question a lot because...as much as I love my HoF I don't think Bioware could really do justice to the head canon I have for her.  A part of me would love to see the HoF return just so I could play with her again, but at the same time I don't want them to ruin her either!

 

Given the complexity of my head canon, which I should probably just turn into a silly fanfiction, I'll try to answer your questions, in spoiler tags due to length.

 

TLDR:

- My head canon has four major players: HoF, Orlesian Warden, Hawke and the Inquisitor.

- HOF finds all three weak and naive, only Inquisitor seems to have enough of a snarky personality to be on an even playing field with her, haha.

- The Hero of Ferelden is one of the most dangerous, to her the ends justifies the means, and she deems her self Judge, Jury and Executioner.  I think by some standards she'd be regarded as a "villain" but it's more complicated than that haha.

 

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Aren't the two things basically against one another?

 

On the outset permit me to clarify that I don't agree with the theories that you can remain a Grey Warden after curing yourself of the taint. Or at least you're no more a Grey Warden than any recruit is before their Joining ceremony.

So while it can be argued that the HoF has decided to leave the Warden ranks himself but is still looking for people who want to join, I doubt the other Wardens would look kindly on such a recruiter.

 

By making our HoF look for the cure BW basically tied our hands and have forced on our HoF, the desire to leave the Warden ranks. And DAI's plot line, deliberately or accidentally reinforces this. I mean all the Wardens in Southern Thedas are in jeopardy, but the HoF is away on his own personal mission, which is rather selfish. Even Morrigan is surprised (although pleasantly) when they don't find the HoF during the siege of Adamant with other GW.

I'm also certain that if the HoF plot line is continued further in future games, they will come up with plausible reasons for why they wanted to leave the Wardens.

 

 

 

not necessarly, I'd wager having a cure for the taint would bolster the Grey Wardens by a great margin, one of the biggest drawbacks in the grey wardens is that they don't have as much senior veterans in the organization that can impart as much of their experience as they can to new recruits as they could/should. The ability to ensure that your veterans stay alive in order to better train new recruits as well as preparing them for a warden's hard life.

Heck, the possibility of the wardens having the cure for the taint in their hands is possibly the biggest ace in the hole they could ever ask for, in essence they would hold every nation that is in close proximity to the darkspawn by the balls. Just the dwarves alone would be jumping at the prospect of having a chance to reclaim their thaigs and most likely would join the wardens in order to do it, afterwards the wardens would be in their right to request a few of their thaigs in payment.

Make no mistake, a cure for the taint is a game changer, and the wardens know it. 



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Tabris Warden finds cure, moves to Val Royeaux to be near gf divine

stuff happens

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i had headcanoned that my warden, hawke and all the companions had gotten together and were adventuring all over thedas (despite my warden being warden-commander and having responsibilities xD).  after the events of DA2, i'm sure that many companions opposed having anders along, especially leliana and wynne, but sine the warden knew anders from DAA, she helped to keep everyone in line and from fighting (too much). 

 

with bioware saying that the warden is searching for the cure, my headcanon now is that the warden had taken the DAA companions (minus justice, of course) with her, so although they were still affected by the false calling, they had each other to stay grounded and were smart enough not to get scared and desperate, like clarel did.  if anything, it only made them even more determined at finding a cure.  it also reinforces my original headcanon that she and hawke met up somehow, because hawke would want to help rid anders of the taint because he doesn't want to lose him.

 

after DAI, i'm sure that leliana, as divine, would've kept tabs on the warden and helped her in any way she could.  i'd also like to think that the warden is still able to contact the rest of the DAO crew if she wanted to. 


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Traveling the lands trying to expand his harem and possibly trying to figure out how to extend his life in order to enjoy being king as long as possible.....yeah my Warden is kind of a manslut. >.>
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My Warden is looking for the cure. Zevran and he are close but not THAT close. He doesn't have the Old God Baby tie. He's just trying to do the right thing. The search for the cure can be interpreted as either/both selfish and/or selfless, and I go selfless.

 

I don't have a problem with looking for a cure, but I DO have a problem with it being a sort of handwave by the devs/writers compared to other stuff (other Warden character, Morrigan and child, Flemeth, Hawke, etc). I approve of the path, but not how it was taken. It seems weird how someone like the Warden, in all conceptions of him, can react in this way when the Breach + other disasters have happened. I know he's 'just' a Grey Warden in the end, but he's also been written to be an actively involved person in the situations he's witnessed/known, not one who goes "Oh, so yeah, not gonna be part of this." so directly. Even the most standoffish Warden character can see a disaster and see that he's needed to do something about it.

 

I will leave it in Bioware's hands for them to explain (AND THEY MUST EXPLAIN) wtf Warden has been doing on his search for the Cure, and what really even sparked him to go on this path and continue it even as the Breach occurs. I don't want his character to be ruined from it (IMO he's not ruined yet).

 

No to little direct contact with the Inquisitor. I'm fine with their stories being separate, I just wanted better acknowledgement of the Warden in the overall story.

 

 

Even if we never end up directly seeing and hearing the Warden again in Dragon Age, I think Bioware should really have either a big DAI DLC or a section of DA4 directly address this Cure and Warden stuff, perhaps incorporating choices made in previous games. I mean sure it'll happen, but I think it is better set to happen sooner (2015-2017) than later (2018+). And I would like if it symbolically fully closes off anything of the 'Warden's Story', bringing back the darkspawny tone of Ostagar and finally ending things with something that relates to the Origin the Warden had. 

Basically, I'd love an Origins-centric DLC, that through a lot of cleverness (and hopefully in ways that doesn't bring on too much fan hate) closes off the DAO generation of DA fans' obsession with the Warden. I do not approve of continued handwaving. DAI was my cap for that. Patrick Weekes or whoever can think all all they want about the Warden, but I think they should acknowledge that this is a ball left up in the air and it really needs to be caught, not stay in the air (never resolved) or hit the ground (SWTOR Revan treatment 'ruining the character').

 

For now I'm just imagining my Warden doing cool stuff in the Deep Roads and shiz. I can easily replace the Warden with the Awakening Orlesian-Warden, whatever. The journey he seems to be on is fine, and I'm trending on the side of it being a journey that will (or in most choice outcomes at least) lead to death, but hey, its his Calling Of Sorts and it better be the most epic Calling EVER.


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He's in the Royal palace at Orzammar, he has put his feet up, has a nice cup a' tea, reading the sports section of the Sun, and has reverted back to making Gorim do all the talking for him. 


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