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[Bunny]

When King Alistair and the Warden visit Skyhold, they bring their son, and he becomes best friends with Quizzy and Cullen's sassy daughter, who wants to be like Dorian.

[Toasted Llama]

When King Alistair and the Warden visit Skyhold, they bring their son, and he becomes best friends with Quizzy and Cullen's sassy daughter, who wants to be like Dorian.

[Sah291]

Your Amell is exactly like my Amell, I made her a blood mage too, spared Avernus, the Architect and Branka and is the ex lover of Alistair I was not letting Morrigan sex him up. I gave Morrigan Loghain instead. I wouldn't say she's down a dark path. I think she's more like Morrigan in her romanticized pursuit in wanting to preserve the magic of old otherwise we'd be left with the mundane.

Aaaaand I have Carver as a warden too! So she has to cross paths with him at least if not Hawke. Don't tell me you had a Male Hawk who romanced Anders too? lol

LOL in fact I did! Canon Hawke is also a male mage who romanced Anders.

Well I wouldn't say my Amell sees herself as going down a dark path, she has the best of intentions after all.. But I saw on YouTube that this is what a Warden Alistair tells Hawke about the HoF if the dark ritual was performed. So I just have a feeling that's the sort of direction bioware would go if the Warden were to ever return. I guess I would be ok with that, since I've always seen my Warden's life as being sort of sad...even though she survives the archdemon and may very well succeed with the cure. I also imagine her living a long time, like Avernus, having used his potion.

[S Seraff]

My HoF died, but the Orlesian Warden Commander that took over is just as important to my world story. I saw him taking on a more administrative role with the Ferelden wardens, while supporting efforts to strengthen their numbers there, and also researching more into the blood he drank, maybe even pinging the Architect now and then. Though Inquisition doesnt allow for it strangely, I see my OWC researching the Calling

[Al Foley]

You know I did actually rather enjoy BioWare's take on where the Hero of Ferelden was.  Granted I was peturbed they hijacked my head cannon a bit, but its their story...not mine.  But it is a rather elegant take on the solution given that other then defeating the Archdemon this is exactly what he would do.  He would want to cheat death.  That is very much in his character, he wants to live, and he already beat the odds once during the Fifth Blight.  

[StrangerPasingBy]

Surprisingly I say that what Bioware is doing is really spot on. I say surprisingly because usually I disagree with the devs but this time not really. So far on mines it's been what happened at DAI which was the warden lived and morrigan had godbaby. Warden as the warden commander from awakening dlc. Warden and morrigan where together for a time and then he goes to combat the calling. I can't wait to see what happend next. I'm hoping this will be a part of the next game as I feel there are too many factors to be just a DLC. I'm hoping they go full circle and go back to letting you be the warden in the next game.

[The Qun & the Damned]

Maxim Tabris and Zevran are plowing on top of some recently maimed Crows when the breach opens up. Maxim was so aghast that he spit Zevran's meatbag out, looked him in the eye, and both went "nope" and they galloped away to the donarks on Dog before the first demon started possessing the unburnt remains.

[Eelectrica]

Waiting in a cave, waiting for the writers to say 'Rocks fell, warden died. Your Warden now can't come back. Quit yer bellyachin''

[cindercatz]

With the rise of all these "bring back the HoF" post demanding Bioware to pull the strings of the HoF, I wanted to counter that a bit and see what the community has done with/thought for their Wardens without Bioware's involvement.


So I'd like to ask, if your Warden is alive, what do you headcanon them doing during DAI and after DAI? Do you follow Bioware's guidelines and have them search for a cure or do you have them doing something completely else?

If they're doing anything in particular, do they have any specific reasons or motivations to do this?

Did/do they have direct contact with the Inquisitor or Hawke? If yes, what's their relationship like?


Would be interesting to see how everyone's Wardens has progressed beyond DA:A.

 

Bonus question; Do you have multiple Wardens, if yes; do you have a story for them? Personally I've never managed to think up a story for anything beyond my canon Warden, so I'm curious how other people have handled this.

I'll answer, but you probably won't like it much. I don't like my Wardens being stuck in limbo at all, and my intent was always that they stay involved in the story on screen. So how have they progressed in my headcanon? Not at all, really. My headcanon was that they'd get involved and actually do something about the world falling down around their ears, and use their resources and influence to help the Inquisition, or challenge it if it went off the rails. And a few in relationships would never have let Morrigan or Leliana face all of that danger alone. So BioWare absolutely shattered my headcanon for every one of my Wardens by skirting them off the stage with barely a whisper.

 

Anyway, I have six Wardens. What are they all doing and what happens after Inquisition? Every one has the same answer: Waiting for dlc so their story can progress.

 

'What were they doing before they left?' I'll try to answer that.

 

1. Caelia, f city elf: Leading the Ferelden wardens, occasionally having an icy visit or correspondence with her ex King Alistair, researching the taint with the Architect, Avernus, and her inner circle of wardens. Caught with her pants down in some massive clusterpuck that went completely FUBAR, preventing her from getting involved in every which way with the Corypheus situation. She's very political, righteous, randy, and ruthless. She wouldn't miss it on her life, but she did somehow. Must be an extremely bad situation.

 

2. Aslan Cousland, King of Ferelden: Attempting to maintain a positive relationship with his wife Anora, corresponding with his sometime mistress Leliana and his brother, mourning news of Wynne's death, trying to rebuild Ferelden, and keeping a lookout for Morrigan and his son. He's always kept her ring on his finger, awaiting the day he'll finally meet his son and the witch he still loved deep down, truth told. Again, he got sidetracked looking into something for the Wardens and Avernus, everything went completely FUBAR and he somehow missed out on the reunion he spent the last decade actively looking for.

 

3. Raelin, m dalish Warden: He's been splitting time between visiting Leliana, Warden business, tracking down his clan and his last friend Merril, and looking out for The People every opportunity he gets. He got sidetracked by some warden business, everything went completely FUBAR, and he somehow wasn't able to protect anybody he cares for. He's cursing Thedas for whatever caused this horrible situation.

 

4. Reis, m human mage: He's been raising his son with Morrigan, the one and only love of his life, for the last decade. He made sure to look for Lily, looking to free her from unjust imprisonment, but apparently couldn't find her. He did everything he could to support the mage rebellion which apparently led to the wardens tracking him down, roping him into their business, where things quickly went absolutely FUBAR, preventing him from getting back to the only people alive he'd drop everything to be with and protect, his wife and son. Things must be an absolutely bloody nightmare the likes of which have never been seen if he can't get back to his family's side.

 

5. Dushek, dwarven noble: Dead, his son benefiting from his paragon status despite the chaos surrounding House Harrowmont. The orlesian warden Analise, acting as the Ferelden warden commander, set out on a mission for the cure. Unfortunately, it went completely FUBAR and she couldn't get back to aid Clarel and the rest of her former siblings at arms against the next magister to rear its head. She's already killed one, she's the expert here.

 

6. Nari, f dwarven living paragon and former duster: She's been looking after her sister and nephew in King Baelin's court, attempting to encourage conversion to Androstianism where possible, but got roped into warden business, where things quickly went FUBAR and she ended up unable to put her blades to work to do anything about the Corypheus situation. Zevran's gotten around somewhere, but if she's heard from him in years you wouldn't know it.

 

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[BraveVesperia]

Surana really enjoyed leading the Amaranthine Wardens. Though after two of her Wardens became one Warden and blew up a Chantry, I think that lost its shine. She probably did a bit of travelling with Zevran. After being shut in the Circle tower her whole life, she wants to see everything she's read about in its dusty libraries. Collecting knowledge for the Circles was also a big part of it. When the Circles fell, she returned to Vigil's Keep and offered shelter to any mages fleeing the Circle. Once the mages find a place (in Cassandra's new Circles in one PT and Leliana's mage collective in another), she'll offer her help and knowledge to them. Until then, Avernus has pointed her in the direction of a Calling cure, so that's where she's going - with Zevran, Sigrun, Velanna, Nathaniel and Oghren. Won't that be a weird group. She'll probably seek out Hawke for some closure on the Janders thing at some point.

 

Cousland's working with Anora to make Ferelden into a powerful nation, rebuliding all the damage the Blight and Loghain did. The Wardens still press him to do work for them, but he prefers being in the political playground. He'd do the Calling cure so the good times don't end when his just middle-aged.

 

Mahariel's doing whatever the Wardens need her to do. If that's stopping them from getting desperate and nuts from the Calling, then so be it. She's also co-operating with the Architect and Avernus to try and beat the Taint. Its negative effects, anyway. Briala's elven uprising caught her interest though.

 

Brosca is living the good life as a king's mistress and big (little) damn hero. She's not likely to return to hard work anytime soon. Ruling Amaranthine and visiting Queen Rica and son are the top priorities. She'd go on a quest to stop the Calling for the same reasons as Cousland.

[Dieb]

Somewhere, wherever, existing only to ****block my Inquisitor from Morrigan.

 

Goddamnit.

[Cha0sEff3ct]

LOL in fact I did! Canon Hawke is also a male mage who romanced Anders.

Well I wouldn't say my Amell sees herself as going down a dark path, she has the best of intentions after all.. But I saw on YouTube that this is what a Warden Alistair tells Hawke about the HoF if the dark ritual was performed. So I just have a feeling that's the sort of direction bioware would go if the Warden were to ever return. I guess I would be ok with that, since I've always seen my Warden's life as being sort of sad...even though she survives the archdemon and may very well succeed with the cure. I also imagine her living a long time, like Avernus, having used his potion.

YESSS!

 

We might be different in the way we romanced Anders. I rivalmanced Anders! It was interesting to play a Mage Hawke who lived outside the circle yet agreed with the chantry and templars. It kind of makes sense as you progress on in kirkwall considering all the horrible things mages end up doing in the game especially Momma Hawke.    And the sexual tension down that path was too hard not to pursue.

 

Anders: You are everything I hate... A mage who curries favor with the templars! Some days I don't know whether to kill you or kiss you!   But I can't stop thinking about you... if your door is open tonight (something something paraphrasing) if not I know you heeded my message to stay away (or something something)

 

I'm kind of missing DA2 now with the corny romance novel type romances/cutscenes. DA:I was a mix of the DA:O and DAII romances it still had the corny DAII romance novel romances but brought the sexy back from DA:O none of this cutting away before the clothes come off.

 

Also rivalmancing Anders you get a kiss at the gallows between them. I think Hawke says, I will always love you or something.

 

Everyone else I pursued friendships even the hard as hell to win over Carver. I just want you to love me brother!! I don't think I got him to full friendship even with the DLC.

[Obb42]

After clearing up the business with Morrigan, Duran Aeducan stepped down as Warden-Commander, leaving Garavel in command until the Wardens sent a replacement Commander, and returned to Orzammar as a sort of diminutive Bismarck to Harrowmont's Wilhelm. Originally he had planned to return to his lover, Leliana, and turn Harrowmont's invitation down, but Leliana was offered a job by the newly crowned Divine Justinia V. This freed Duran to try and curb the new king's bad policymaking, however they both planned to leave their respective roles when their jobs were done and be together at long last. In the years that Duran feuded with the new king  he always planned to get around to investigating the lead to a cure for The Calling that Morrigan left him before she left. After one particularly fiery argument with Harrowmont, Duran disappeared from Orzammar and met with Leliana. They agreed that Duran would travel West to search for a cure, and that Leliana would join him after the Conclave. Of course, this didn't go entirely as planned...

[Sah291]

I'm kind of missing DA2 now with the corny romance novel type romances/cutscenes. DA:I was a mix of the DA:O and DAII romances it still had the corny DAII romance novel romances but brought the sexy back from DA:O none of this cutting away before the clothes come off.

Haha yeah I kind of miss the campy DA2 romances. I friendmanced and spared Anders (yes I pretty much spared almost everyone in my world state, lol). The rivalmance is good too, but there's just something so over the top about the friendmance, I can't play it any other way. DAI has less amusing camp, but my Quizzy romanced Solas, and I really can't complain, at all.

I think it would be interesting for the Warden and Anders to cross paths again, considering everything bad that happened to him after escaping the circle was pretty much her fault (conscripting him and getting him tainted, getting justice trapped outside the fade, abandoning the wardens, and letting them take his cat).

[Bunny]

My Hawke friendmanced and spared Anders too, but at the rate his bitterness has grown since Awakening, I think he's going to end up an old curmudgeon someday.

 

The mage who became a warden. The warden who became an apostate. The apostate who defied the chantry.

 

Now he wants his kitty back. Anders is

 

[Heimdall]

My Hawke friendmanced and spared Anders too, but at the rate his bitterness has grown since Awakening, I think he's going to end up an old curmudgeon someday.

The mage who became a warden. The warden who became an apostate. The apostate who defied the chantry.

Now he wants his kitty back. Anders is

I kill him everytime.

Rivamance!Merrill all the way

[Cha0sEff3ct]

Haha yeah I kind of miss the campy DA2 romances. I friendmanced and spared Anders (yes I pretty much spared almost everyone in my world state, lol). The rivalmance is good too, but there's just something so over the top about the friendmance, I can't play it any other way. DAI has less amusing camp, but my Quizzy romanced Solas, and I really can't complain, at all.

I think it would be interesting for the Warden and Anders to cross paths again, considering everything bad that happened to him after escaping the circle was pretty much her fault (conscripting him and getting him tainted, getting justice trapped outside the fade, abandoning the wardens, and letting them take his cat).

 

The friendmance is too good to be true IMO. Two apostate mages with the exact same belief systems falling in love and running away together happily ever after. lol I needed some opposition from both sides to stir things up! Some heat and passion!

 

DA:I has a good mix itself though and I like that they did more with the romances than just come to my tent or bedroom. The really sappy romance with Cassandra with poetry or taking care of drug I mean lyrium addicted Cullen and helping him get "sober". The Solas one looks extremely well put together. Didn't romance Solas yet because I just can't not romance Cullen. Will be making another elf though just for Solas. I saw the romance on YT with the whole vallaslin thing and it's really too cute! That was well done. I do think they should removed the part with the dream in haven and Solas talking about how he felt the whole world change when the rift was sealed from the non-romanceable inquisitors. When he brought the IQ back to that moment was a great moment for the romance. That should've been just for the female elves. The romance dialogue could've been better. I forget what she says. I did it but romanced cullen after. But my IQ says something like flatterer and kisses Solas. It didn't flow well imo.

 

The warden should definitely cross paths with Anders again considering all that. I would be interested to hear their opinions on his "change". To be fair, Anders (I think) chose to be a grey warden in an attempt to escape the circle, and he was the one who accepted Justice into him. Made for such an interesting romance having him deal with his inner demons well demon. Justice did become vengeance after all. I know how everyone hated Ander's change in character but I found it to be an awesome transition. Instead of this care free mage wanting to escape and getting caught which seemed more light hearted at first and a game. Having Justice enter his spirit sort of transformed that into something more of substance and made it into an ideal. He made Ander's realize there was more to it than just escape attempts, he made him become a "revolutionary" however that goal became twisted into Vengeance I believe because Ander's at first wasn't as adamant about his personal beliefs and Justice cemented those beliefs into making it an agenda but the inner fight between the two of them corrupted it all because they weren't working in harmony with each other as Wynne and her spirit of faith, or even Cole to a different extent as a spirit of Compassion.

[Bunny]

So basically, Anders is Darth Vader.

[Sah291]

So basically, Anders is Darth Vader.

Kind of. I was gonna say...Flemeth. She's basically Anders, on steroids, merged with an elven goddess of justice. Speaking of which having gone back to do a DA2 run after DAI I'm convinced Flemeth had a role influencing Anders. The way he echoes her words at the end "there can be no peace..(without an end)." I wonder if Mythal could have had control over Justice.

Cole pretty much changed my perspective on spirits and demons though. Fortunately Wynne and Cole probably had slightly easier spirits to deal with, since Faith and Compassion are a little more clear cut. Then again I think the nightmare demon was supposed to be a corrupted version of Compassion, and that was pretty frightening.

But justice is kind of weird, where it can be both good or bad, like pride. Even with modern concepts of justice, vengeance is usually a part of it. Lady Justice is basically an amalgamation of several different Greek/Roman goddesses, including Nemesis, who was pretty much a goddess of vengeance. But then again she's supposed to be more of a karmic force I guess, punishing pride and arrogance. So the idea of justice being exclusively pacifist or about mercy is really more recent I think, and is heavily wrapped up with Christian "non resistance" theology (though it shows up in other religions too).

Not to take this thread too far off topic!

[Cha0sEff3ct]

My Hawke friendmanced and spared Anders too, but at the rate his bitterness has grown since Awakening, I think he's going to end up an old curmudgeon someday.

 

The mage who became a warden. The warden who became an apostate. The apostate who defied the chantry.

 

Now he wants his kitty back. Anders is

 

I decided, Tina Amell, my warden, in addition to finding a cure for the blight will now also find a way to extract Justice from Anders as a personal gesture because he's an old friend and for her cousin Garrett Hawke, plus after finding the cure, she will also cure his taint.

 

Anders will be no cat curmudgeon while Hawke is alive. I'll save him from crazy cat solitude.

So basically, Anders is Darth Vader.

If he is, he's not at all wooden like Hayden Christensen in his delivery of emotions. His chemistry with Natalie Portman was non-existent.

[Bunny]

*tries but will probably fail to un-hijack the thread*

 

I can't remember if DA2 explains why or how Anders is no longer with the Wardens. Anders has the taint, right? As a friend to my Cousland in Awakening and being my Hawke's romantic partner, I think he would at least try to help one or the other with whatever it is they're doing, which, in either case, sounds like work involving Grey Wardens in DAI.

[Sah291]

Not really. The ending in awakening is really vague about why the warden leaves. He/she either decides to move on and disappears again on some unnamed personal adventure, either joining with their LI somewhere, or I would assume goes back to join Alistair/Anora in court for a while (before disappearing again).

Presumably after the warden leaves, some other wardens take over leadership who think Anders is too soft and take away his cat, and (if that short story is canon), appearently allow Templars to infiltrate. So he joins up with justice and escapes. Or if he died at the end he apparently faked his death and left. They didn't really stick to the epilogue slides much. There's a banter with Fenris I think in legacy that implies he just has a pattern of running away. And if he faked his death he admits to being cowardly I think. Which fits considering he's the only companion that gives approval if you leave him behind in the keep before the battle in amaranthine.

[Mr Plow]

My Warden wandered too far and ended up in Jade Empire 2

[Dieb]

 

*tries but will probably fail to un-hijack the thread*

 

I can't remember if DA2 explains why or how Anders is no longer with the Wardens. Anders has the taint, right? As a friend to my Cousland in Awakening and being my Hawke's romantic partner, I think he would at least try to help one or the other with whatever it is they're doing, which, in either case, sounds like work involving Grey Wardens in DAI.

 

 

I remember him saying that part of the reason his hospital is hidden, is also to avoid the Wardens. Something along the lines "You don't just quit". Also you have to find him to get the Deep Roads map in the first place, and he will have some sort of brief argument with Stroud, as far as I recall.

 

All to say the game very well recognizes that he technically still is a Warden.

 

While we're merrily hijacking, I dread this silly option to just shank him like a sucker "because roleplay". Commit to the plot and make him stage an escape one way or the other, it could have been so interesting in DAI's mage/templar conflict... it could have made the character into an atntagonist I'd truly feel compelled by, rather then another one-game-drop-in-monster villian.

[Forsythia77]

My Ariana Cousland married Alistair. Alistair had Morrigan's love child (it was a business arrangement.. wot?!).  Not sure why The HoF disappeared according to Bioware.  Because right about now she is raising three adorable moppets, two of which look like her and one is the spitting image of Alistair. They sure were snuggly and cute when he dropped her off in Amaranthine for awakenings.