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Same could be said for the gross, broken male elf anatomy. I hope they're listening and they'll fix both these issues, but their silence and assumed inaction--a result of that silence--strikes me as Bioware simply not caring. Unless it's a game-breaking bug (or an arguably helpful exploit), they'll probably just ignore us. :(

Either way, it'd be real super if Bioware could learn that simply interacting with your consumers on a regular basis can set their minds at ease leagues better than simply pretending not to notice them.


They aren't allowed to speak to us plebeians without their liege lord EA's permission and EA hates their customers.
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Yes that's her, Brilliant face mate

 

Thanks! I loved playing her. I got so attached to her that I'm going completionist with her so I can load up a save and work on stuff if I feel like I miss her. 


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The eyebrows are terrible. I thought the darkness, bushiness and hairiness was an error along with the 50 shades of bald and forcing the color of the eyebrow to be intertwined with the hair, because the airbrushed style that Cassandra and Leliana have were options in DA:O and DA:2. But sadly, my poor Inquisitor has to sport either a druffalo or a sparse field above her eyes, so I've exiled Cassandra and her properly kept eyebrows to Skyhold, where I won't have to see them anymore. :(

 

After this game, I'm regretting switching from PC to console because I can't mod these atrocious eyebrows. I don't know what they were thinking. Limiting your CC tool in eyebrows and face-shapes is not how you make gamers happy. I don't want to spend over 20 minutes attempting to create a non-hideous character when I open the game--I want to play it without cringing or wishing for an eyebrow pencil every time there's a cut-scene.  :angry:

 

Sigh. I've been holding onto that rant since November.  :D


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Holy batman, necro, but I'm actually thankful for that post. It really needs to get through to BW that next time, they spend just a little more time and money on hairdos and eyebrows.
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Same could be said for the gross, broken male elf anatomy. I hope they're listening and they'll fix both these issues, but their silence and assumed inaction--a result of that silence--strikes me as Bioware simply not caring. Unless it's a game-breaking bug (or an arguably helpful exploit), they'll probably just ignore us. :(

 

Either way, it'd be real super if Bioware could learn that simply interacting with your consumers on a regular basis can set their minds at ease leagues better than simply pretending not to notice them.

 

Though it can be a bit risky...it's sort of circular I suppose. The forums can get downright nasty :P so the devs might want to stay away. But then one reason there's incivility is because people are annoyed that the devs aren't around as much. So either they have to tough it out until things smooth over, or the forum has to really try to keep things pleasant (I'm thinking more of a few bad apples - the overall bunch is fairly polite and kind, or so I've found :))

 

And then there's PR stuff. Like what are they allowed to say? What happens if one says something, it get misinterpreted, and then lots of people get annoyed on both sides? Tough situation, I think.

 

I can agree, I'd definitely love to have the opportunity to interact with the devs on a more regular basis, but I guess I can also see why they might feel it's in their best interests to just silently observe (and I really do think they keep an eye on this, even if we're not seeing it through regular posts on their part).


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I think they gave us bad eyebrows and bad hair so they can sell us better ones via microtransactions.



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I really wonder about the thinking behind some of the design choices. I mean they make this incredible beautiful game where you can see the foam of the salt water spraying the rocks, and the leave that the caterpillars have been eating, but have eyebrows that work for hairy cavemen and hairstyles that seem to me are  predominately male oriented.


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They aren't allowed to speak to us plebeians without their liege lord EA's permission and EA hates their customers.

Oh is this the reason why Bioware staffs not interacting with the community?

 

 

I really wonder about the thinking behind some of the design choices. I mean they make this incredible beautiful game where you can see the foam of the salt water spraying the rocks, and the leave that the caterpillars have been eating, but have eyebrows that work for hairy cavemen and hairstyles that seem to me are  predominately male oriented.

This is exactly what I don't understand about Bioware..


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I really wonder about the thinking behind some of the design choices. I mean they make this incredible beautiful game where you can see the foam of the salt water spraying the rocks, and the leave that the caterpillars have been eating, but have eyebrows that work for hairy cavemen and hairstyles that seem to me are  predominately male oriented.

 

How dare you. I'm outraged. Don't you see that being able to choose pretty eyebrows for female protagonists would promote unrealistic expectations in women? If you want to see pretty eyebrows, why don't you go watch some pron? Besides, everybody is beautiful. You're just narrow-minded and superficial if you can't see the beauty in Saruman-style eyebr... ERROR 0x307: SARCASM OVERFLOW


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I find it hilarious how they bothered with giving decent hair and eyebrows to NPC characters while you get stuck with something that came straight from 'Stone Age'.


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Same could be said for the gross, broken male elf anatomy. I hope they're listening and they'll fix both these issues, but their silence and assumed inaction--a result of that silence--strikes me as Bioware simply not caring. Unless it's a game-breaking bug (or an arguably helpful exploit), they'll probably just ignore us. :(

 

Either way, it'd be real super if Bioware could learn that simply interacting with your consumers on a regular basis can set their minds at ease leagues better than simply pretending not to notice them.

 

Elven shoulders are the issue, not the arms. The weird bending happens because of how the skeleton is compressed at the shoulders.



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Elven shoulders are the issue, not the arms. The weird bending happens because of how the skeleton is compressed at the shoulders.

 

It's their entire body, really. The shoulders, arms, torso, legs, and feet especially. All of it is horrendous, not just the shoulders. That's why I always go with a more broad term like "anatomy," rather than just arms specifically. I don't know why I'm the only one who's pointed out how the feet are literally broken and atrocious looking. If anyone hasn't noticed it and is curious, let me know and I'll upload some screenshots.


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It's their entire body, really. The shoulders, arms, torso, legs, and feet especially. All of it is horrendous, not just the shoulders. That's why I always go with a more broad term like "anatomy," rather than just arms specifically. I don't know why I'm the only one who's pointed out how the feet are literally broken and atrocious looking. If anyone hasn't noticed it and is curious, let me know and I'll upload some screenshots.

 

I am curious! I don't play the game in the moment and really was not happy with the elves in DA:I.

 

(They look like a "slave-race" or "stick-figures" .... not the most "healthy" look!)

 

Could you upload something here? I love PC screenshots from DA:I anyway :) (I play on PS3 ^_^)


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Yes, please. I just don't get some of these design choices. Many of the eyebrows and hair selection is so hideous no one would ever use them in a serious character. What a waste asset space. Fire the guy who thought those were good designs; in fact, fire the guys who designed them. Replace those idiots with folks from the modding community who can show them how it's done.

 

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I am curious! I don't play the game in the moment and really was not happy with the elves in DA:I.

 

(They look like a "slave-race" or "stick-figures" .... not the most "healthy" look!)

 

Could you upload something here? I love PC screenshots from DA:I anyway :) (I play on PS3 ^_^)

 

Here are the best examples I have at present (plus the arms sinking into the torso), and only one image features the gross, broken feet. It resembles a dinosaur kind of foot, doesn't it? I may make a new character to take more detailed shots another time if better examples are needed, as I just deleted this fellow.

 

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Every outfit features the broken feet, including the elf-restricted outfits. The only exception I've seen so far are with the thigh-high boots. The pajama boots are where the feet are at their most heinous and broken.


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I still don't get the problem with eyebrowns. To me they are mostly great though some are blocky on old gen but thats just one of graphical issues.

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I am curious! I don't play the game in the moment and really was not happy with the elves in DA:I.

 

(They look like a "slave-race" or "stick-figures" .... not the most "healthy" look!)

 

Could you upload something here? I love PC screenshots from DA:I anyway :) (I play on PS3 ^_^)

Here's an example, on the left is how they really look and on the right I edited only the break in the arm and nothing else. Sorry it's not a PC screenshot though ^.^'

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Here's an example, on the left is how they really look and on the right I edited only the break in the arm and nothing else. Sorry it's not a PC screenshot though ^.^'

Shoulderfix.png

 

It makes the whole posture of the character look more humanoid and less "bird-like" in this case!

On the left the character looks like an underdeveloped child or something like it ...

 

Thanks for the upload, Nefla :P



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Here are the best examples I have at present (plus the arms sinking into the torso), and only one image features the gross, broken feet. It resembles a dinosaur kind of foot, doesn't it? I may make a new character to take more detailed shots another time if better examples are needed, as I just deleted this fellow.

 

Spoiler

 

Every outfit features the broken feet, including the elf-restricted outfits. The only exception I've seen so far are with the thigh-high boots. The pajama boots are where the feet are at their most heinous and broken.

 

 

At imgur.com you wrote they look like bodies of "stick-insects" :lol: I think that is quite accurate -_-

 

My second character was/is a fem/elf/rogue. I called her "Belladonna" (Meaning: "Night Shade") to emphasize her "nature" which should be expressed by her use of ... stealth, poison and the assassin-spec. She was supposed to be an "elven killer" - operating from the shadows and to use her knowledge of the wild or her knowledge of nature as a weapon. A "hunter of the night". But she looked like she is gonna fall over any moment! And not in a good way. Since the first moment of the pt. Kills the mood for the roleplaying somehow <_<

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Here are the best examples I have at present (plus the arms sinking into the torso), and only one image features the gross, broken feet. It resembles a dinosaur kind of foot, doesn't it? I may make a new character to take more detailed shots another time if better examples are needed, as I just deleted this fellow.

 

Spoiler

 

Every outfit features the broken feet, including the elf-restricted outfits. The only exception I've seen so far are with the thigh-high boots. The pajama boots are where the feet are at their most heinous and broken.

 

Very amateurish. I'm beginning to wonder if the model was just not rigged correctly.


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That looks just like my Rhiannon, before I changed her brows to Shantia's CC replacements:

 

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She looks like the ultimate ****** version of Cassandra lol


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Maybe. When the BE comes out, if ever.  Certainly, I won't pay for an updated CC with additional eye brow settings.

 

LOL. I remember prior to game launch, some Bio employee mentioned that the CC had billion(s) of combinations... guess it wasn't enough.



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LOL. I remember prior to game launch, some Bio employee mentioned that the CC had billion(s) of combinations... guess it wasn't enough.


If you ran a perfect permutation of all possible combinations, you'd end up with over half of them with buzzcuts and/or saruman-style eyebrows and/or ridiculous make-up.

I mean, my mantra is 'choice is great' but choosing between a rough stick in the eye and a spoon in the eye ultimately isn't QUITE so much fun...
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I find it hilarious how they bothered with giving decent hair and eyebrows to NPC characters while you get stuck with something that came straight from 'Stone Age'.

Love your SIG, btw