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Why do folks hate Condor and/or Collectors?


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Terminator Force

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Because they can't handle it.

 

So many folks drop out of these games or complain about it or just always getting downed non-stop. To them I suggest to maybe stick with presets from now on.



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Angry_Elcor

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Collectors stole my lunch money. And Condor is where they killed my father. Shows what you know! And thanks for triggering me!


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The NightMan Cometh

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I'm fine with Collectors..The Collectors in ME2 were WAYYY harder than these Collectors...ME2's Collectors...basic troopers carried Particle Rifles..epic Scion shockwaves..Possessed Trooper has the Swarm of Death...Praetorian scould fly 30 feet in the air WHILE shooting their laser..then they could decide to take a recharge-barrier break whenever they wanted to...I hate Condor because Condor hates itself..It is the most broken map..PERIOD..ammo boxes only work..maybe...half of the time..Condor looks nice, plays horrible.



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I don't mind Condor.

 

I hate Collectors because I find them both boring and annoying : low diversity of enemies, irritating pets (webs, seekers, a-bombs) and big slow moving bullets sponges bosses.


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Almost all enemy attacks can go through walls on condor. I was once hit through hard cover on host. WTF. It's still better than dagger hazard, white hazard and Rio in terms of design though.

As for collectors, they are wonderful. I enjoy fighting them. They push you to the limits. By far the best faction. They are the only faction with an answer to every attack in our arsenal.
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justinman114

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Condor/Geth is arguably worse, but I think most of us will fight anything at this point, there just has to be SOMETHING to complain about!



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I don't mind either of them,it just sounds like you had the typical pug evening.



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Dunmer of Redoran

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Collectors are fine. On Gold and the first few waves of Platinum, they're pretty damn annoying because possessed scions rival Geth Primes in terms of cheapness, but I think the rest of their enemies are pretty balanced.

 

Condor has a lot of problems. It's got a reputation as a lagmap like Rio, but it's worse than Rio because many of the meshes for cover are unreliable at stopping projectiles, especially Geth Prime pulses, Scion projectiles, Banshee warps and Ravager missiles. Also, Praetorians and Banshees can travel unusually long distances via the ramps on that map.



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Darth Volus

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Condor cover is all cosmetic. And there's not one place that you can't be shot from multiple angles. Not to mention the map is insanely glitchy and touchy. 

 

Collectors just amplify the BS, but to be fair any faction can be annoying on Condor. 



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I don't hate either Collector or Condor. That being said, both can be quite irritating sometimes.

 

With Collectors, I dislike the most troopers/captains and their super hitting weapons. Sometimes they kill me with full health with about 3-5 shots. Not fun at all.

 

As for Condor, I think majority dislikes it because of horrible ammo boxes. They give max 1 grenade once in a while and they also don't give all that much ammo either. And if there happens to be multiple team members with weapons that uses lots of ammo..... problematic. Also, Condor lags quite badly for some players.



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Collectors are fun. Condor is a glitchy map.

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panda5onix

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My host does funny things to Condor... I wouldn't wanna bestow it upon anyone XD

 

Example:

 

Other than that, there's a high chance that people who join get stuck at the LZ and can't move or enemies become invisible. This map is just derpy  :blink:


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I can handle Condor alright. I can handle Collectors alright.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

... I still ****** hate Condor.


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I'm not a fan of Condor because it's way too easy to get overrun on that board. There's no real smart cover, unless you're camping the hill, but then you're out of position for most spawns.

Collectors are annoying for two reasons:
1. Swarms do way too much damage when exploding
2. Inconsistent hit boxes on Scions and Pratoreans. Dead-on shots go straight through them with no damage

With that said, I wouldn't leave a session over it. I don't discriminate when pimp-handing

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I don't post here often (foreign language reasons)..... but Condor.....is my least favourite map.

 

It is by far the most open map, hiding on low ground is near impossible, RHA-cover with a clear line of sight is very limited, enemies can shoot through cover, standing near the end behind a Mako get's you killed easily (you can't see/shoot the enemy but they can shoot you), ammo boxes.....there is definitely more.

Pro: It is a good sniper map.

 

High-DPS-Collectors....I try not to play them aggressively like other fractions...that's it.



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lonerenforcer9

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I don't post here often (foreign language reasons)..... but Condor.....is my least favourite map.

 

It is by far the most open map, hiding on low ground is near impossible, RHA-cover with a clear line of sight is very limited, enemies can shoot through cover, standing near the end behind a Mako get's you killed easily (you can't see/shoot the enemy but they can shoot you), ammo boxes.....there is definitely more.

Pro: It is a good sniper map.

 

Glitches and getting shot through cover aside, you actually just listed many reasons why I like this map.

 

It's more challenging than most (if not all) other maps; since when is that a bad thing?


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Condor Horror Show

 

Welcome back my friends to the horror that never ends, come inside come inside

 

*Invisible enemies

*Cant take cover

*All your powers wont work depending on where on the map you are standing

*Any new players spawning into map are stuck in a perpetual loading screen

*Teammates disappear from scoreboard

* Ammo boxes ammo boxes ammo boxes

*Enemies stuck at spawn point

 

Many times any one of these glitches can/will happen to you or anyone else in your party, especially if the match before was on a Hazard map


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ClydeInTheShell

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I love Collectors. 

 

When I pug into Condor I will sometimes opt to back out, especially if it's in progress. I don't dislike the map though, but I do feel like I've had more BS happen there than other maps: magnet hands, getting shot through cover, no ammo in boxes, rubber banding...

 

Otherwise, it's cool. :D


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I used to hate collector a lot but I don't mind now since I learnt to enjoy poping their big heads (all of their units have easily targeted weak spot).
I think ppl hate condor because if they stay in the middle enemies usually spawn behind them; and if they hide in a corner they usually don't have things to shoot. And the cover placements are awkward, often they act as obstacles rather. (im unfamiliar with the bugs ppl say of except infinite loading screen and ammo box though)
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Condor Horror Show

 

Welcome back my friends to the horror that never ends, come inside come inside

 

*Invisible enemies

*Cant take cover

*All your powers wont work depending on where on the map you are standing

*Any new players spawning into map are stuck in a perpetual loading screen

*Teammates disappear from scoreboard

* Ammo boxes ammo boxes ammo boxes

*Enemies stuck at spawn point

 

Many times any one of these glitches can/will happen to you or anyone else in your party, especially if the match before was on a Hazard map

Pretty much this. I really like the design condor and the map itself, but there are a ton of glitches that are irritating.

 

Edit: It's also hit or miss whether or not you can actually load into a GiP that's on condor. And invisible teammates.



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Eh, you gotta hate somethin.
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NuclearTech76

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I don't mind Collectors, Geth on the same map and you can go **** yourself. 


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Condor tends to be my least enjoyed map simply because

1. The ammo boxes are in really unintuitive locations, and seem to take far too long to recharge.

2. Far too open with very few locations that provide decent soft cover

3. (tied into 2) Objectives are often miserable on this map because they will be in the open with practically no cover nearby.

Still I don't outright hate condor, and I have these same issues with a map like Jade

 

As for Collectors I wouldn't mind them, but several of their units are outright broken/buggy and many of their units are outright bullet sponges when possessed. I just don't enjoy fighting them as much as other factions.

 

*edit also condor is the map that most often seems to cause glitches with the game, and I also seem to get the most problems with crashes and disconnects on the map.



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Condor Horror Show

 

Welcome back my friends to the horror that never ends, come inside come inside

 

*Invisible enemies

*Cant take cover

*All your powers wont work depending on where on the map you are standing

*Any new players spawning into map are stuck in a perpetual loading screen

*Teammates disappear from scoreboard

* Ammo boxes ammo boxes ammo boxes

*Enemies stuck at spawn point

 

Many times any one of these glitches can/will happen to you or anyone else in your party, especially if the match before was on a Hazard map

Preach it brotha.

 

As for Collectors.. I've actually grown to like them. My 2nd favorite faction actually. B/w possessed abom shenanigans, relatively low amount of cheese tactics and their easy to hit Alec Baldwin- John Travolta sized head, playing vs Collectors is always a good time.



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I used to not like Condor, but now I'm OK with it. Aside from few quirks, it's manageable. The real problem is London. You have far more cover that is no cover and you are exposed far more than on Condor. I've learned to handle Condor as a caster class (weapon master/sniper was already easy enough) but London is still a pain.

 

As far as Collectors go, they are probably my favorite faction, both on Gold (for soloing) and Plat (for 2+ players). Yes. they can be dangerous, but they don't have much bullshit, aside from the crab, and even that one you can learn to manage as well as the other stuff, if you know the maps well enough.

 

So far, the things I dislike the most are London/Geth/Plat and any Cerberus/Gold solo.

 

p.s. To address the OP, I guess people don't like stuff that cannot be influenced by the player's skill. To me, however, there are far worse offenders.


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