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[DarkOrgasm]

Possessed Collectors ARE having a Dark Orgasm

[Dunmer of Redoran]

1. Where did you get "most folks" from?

 

2. Platinum is supposed to be more of a challenge than Gold. So they created artificial difficulty, that's not challenge, that's moronic. Much like giving you cover that doesn't work isn't a challenge, but is moronic.

 

Good AI is a challenge. More enemies is a challenge. Powers that randomly don't work is fake difficulty. Cover that doesn't work is fake difficulty.

 

Platinum has lots of those last two.

[Miniditka77]

Not sure if this was intentional but I like the fact that you used the word 'enraged' for crabs unlike the others where you used possessed. Possessed praetorians sure are enraged.

 

Yes, and "Possessed Scions" should have been replaced by Complete Forking Bullsh*t Scion.  Their grenades ignore all laws of physics I've ever heard of.  Why am I staggering all over the place?  Oh, must have been that Possessed Scion in a completely enclosed room on the other side of the map.

[TheNightSlasher]

Yes, and "Possessed Scions" should have been replaced by Complete Forking Bullsh*t Scion.  Their grenades ignore all laws of physics I've ever heard of.  Why am I staggering all over the place?  Oh, must have been that Possessed Scion in a completely enclosed room on the other side of the map.

That's the beauty of a scion. It'll give you a run for a money.

Their grenades don't ignore any laws. They just have excellent accuracy just like how our marksmen characters can turn raider into a sniper. No difference.

[Quarian Master Race]

Collectors are the easiest faction for anyone with a good weapon and decent aim. I really don't get the hate for them.

Condor would be fun if not for all the false cover and retarded ammo boxes.

[NuclearTech76]

So let me make sure I still got this right. Most folks hate Condor because it's a challenge, but use the "It's too glitchy" excuse to prevent epeen from deflating. Correct?

Most folks hate Condor because when it drops in the RNG rotation generally one or more of your friends are getting the boot. Condor other than the ammo boxes and the herp derp cosmetic cover isn't that challenging. 

 

Collectors personally I would rather solo than any other faction and truly I enjoy playing them with pugs and friends generally for all the wrong reasons. Chances of failure are high in a team game versus collectors and it has nothing to do with the enemy faction. 

[Heldarion]

Good AI is a challenge. More enemies is a challenge. Powers that randomly don't work is fake difficulty. Cover that doesn't work is fake difficulty.

 

Platinum has lots of those last two.

 

I don't know what you're referring to with "powers that randomly don't work"?

 

And yes, the generally dumb AI is exacerbated at Platinum where all of the enemies' stats are buffed and make the difference between their AI and their stats even more glaring.

[NuclearTech76]

I don't know what you're referring to with "powers that randomly don't work"?

 

And yes, the generally dumb AI is exacerbated at Platinum where all of the enemies' stats are buffed and make the difference between their AI and their stats even more glaring.

Ghost Hazard is generally the culprit for powers that do not work, invisible enemies, silent Banshees(OH God!!!), etc for me. Condor I'm just "Waiting For Other Players" generally.  Maybe projectile powers could be more subject to packet loss due to the map? 

[SterlingPhoenix]

My only problem with Condor is that it's not a very pretty map.

 

Oh, that and I have to endure like 5 minutes of "OMG I HATE THIS MAP" from people.

 

Collectors, as I'm sure has been mentioned, memory-leak and kill consoles. Other than that, I have no problem with them.

[Dunmer of Redoran]

I don't know what you're referring to with "powers that randomly don't work"?

 

And yes, the generally dumb AI is exacerbated at Platinum where all of the enemies' stats are buffed and make the difference between their AI and their stats even more glaring.

 

Sometimes overload doesn't do anything to Geth Bombers, and sometimes Goons don't get staggered by things they should be staggered by. Then there's the above problem with maps sometimes being responsible for power-nullification.

[Heldarion]

Ghost Hazard is generally the culprit for powers that do not work, invisible enemies, silent Banshees(OH God!!!), etc for me. Condor I'm just "Waiting For Other Players" generally.  Maybe projectile powers could be more subject to packet loss due to the map? 

 

Sometimes overload doesn't do anything to Geth Bombers, and sometimes Goons don't get staggered by things they should be staggered by. Then there's the above problem with maps sometimes being responsible for power-nullification.

 

Geth bombers targeting is not a Platinum-related thing though, is it? Same for Goons.

 

I also have practically never experienced powers not working, so this might be a console-related problem.

[Dunmer of Redoran]

Geth bombers targeting is not a Platinum-related thing though, is it? Same for Goons.

 

I also have practically never experienced powers not working, so this might be a console-related problem.

 

I didn't say it was specific to Platinum. Personally it doesn't matter to me which difficulty the issues take place on. Even when I'm extraction farming bronze solos, I think balance issues are still highly annoying, even though the game is astoundingly easy.

[FrozenShadow]

Low diversity? wat

 

They have the most diversity out of all factions.

 

Indeed. While they certainly had lowest number of different troops, they certainly makes different waves more challenging and diverse unlike with other factions. 

 

Also Collectors are also the most balanced faction on gold, when it comes getting Collector mastery. Because Collectors troops are balanced per wave, it's quite easy to get Collector mastery simply by playing gold. All others either need long time to kill lowers troops or some bronze/silver farming. 

[FrozenShadow]

I'm guessing guardian or nemesis.

 

So easy to forget them.

 

It's more likely that you forget Engineers. Totally useless troops as they don't even count towards Cerberus mastery.

[Heldarion]

It's more likely that you forget Engineers. Totally useless troops as they don't even count towards Cerberus mastery.

 

It was Guardians I forgot.

 

Which is no surprise, since if you play Gold/Cerb and go play Plat/Cerb, you'll encounter 10 of them combined.

 

If you're lucky.

[TheTechnoTurian]

because fuckin bees, that's why

 

But Condor is a turianmap and there is a turianplanet in the background, it is probably the Worst Turian Thing but the Worst Turian Thing is still better than a non-Turian thing. And that aside, every time I load into Condor it ends up being some nice solo alone time with my Turian because everyone else gets stuck in the LZ. 

[Terminator Force]

1. Where did you get "most folks" from?

 

2. Platinum is supposed to be more of a challenge than Gold. So they created artificial difficulty, that's not challenge, that's moronic. Much like giving you cover that doesn't work isn't a challenge, but is moronic.

 

So you don't think it's most folks. Ok, whatever, but I still have to disagree otherwise.

 

 

Good AI is a challenge. More enemies is a challenge. Powers that randomly don't work is fake difficulty. Cover that doesn't work is fake difficulty.

 

I have yet to see cover that doesn't work in Condor. I've asked this question before on BSN and no one gave me an answer.

 

 

Most folks hate Condor because when it drops in the RNG rotation generally one or more of your friends are getting the boot.

 

So I'm the only one that runs into Condor or Collector matches and the pugs go "Oh noes. Condor. Oh double noes! Collectors!!!" *so and so pug player has left the mission*

 

 

My only problem with Condor is that it's not a very pretty map.

 

Oh, that and I have to endure like 5 minutes of "OMG I HATE THIS MAP" from people.

 

Collectors, as I'm sure has been mentioned, memory-leak and kill consoles. Other than that, I have no problem with them.

 

OK, so I'm not the only one. Finally.

[The NightMan Cometh]

Best strategy I have seen or used...was everybody on the hill.....2 x 2 per side..that way they share 1 ammo box and can take turns as opposed to everyone running around and praying someone didnt hit that ammo box before you..Other thing I hate about that map.....Getting snipped by Primes from the hill on the other side of the map...Bravo to what ever sick F%^K thought that up.

[Terminator Force]

Best strategy I have seen or used...was everybody on the hill.....2 x 2 per side..that way they share 1 ammo box and can take turns as opposed to everyone running around and praying someone didnt hit that ammo box before you..Other thing I hate about that map.....Getting snipped by Primes from the hill on the other side of the map...Bravo to what ever sick F%^K thought that up.

 

Thanks for proving my point as to why folks hate this map. Ditto for the others who posted the same reason.

[FrozenShadow]

1)Collector Trooper

2)Possessed Collector Trooper

3)Captain

4)Possessed Captain

5)Abomination

6)Possessed Abomination

7)Scion

8)Possessed Scion

9)Crab

10)Enraged Crab

 

I count ten units not counting pets. If Cerberus Goons count as another unit then possessed units are other units. Lolgoon= Possessed BDSM Engineer that the Illusive Man stole turret from.

 

Now that I think about this, if you count all pets or everything that can kill you, then it's like this.

 

Reapers: 6+ swarmers

Geth: 6+turret and Drone

Cerberus: 8+turret

Collector: 10+ 2version of swarm.

 

This actually makes Collectors largest faction of all four.

[FrozenShadow]

It was Guardians I forgot.

 

Which is no surprise, since if you play Gold/Cerb and go play Plat/Cerb, you'll encounter 10 of them combined.

 

If you're lucky.

 

Well, you can get more of them on gold, if you will just mostly kill them. Plat, not so much.

 

But yeah, ever since they added Dragoons, Guardians had become rarity.

[Terminator Force]

Oh, and another beautiful day where pugs love to stay out in the open on Condor. One of them was even a best of the best.

[Ghost Of N7_SP3CTR3]

 

Yeah I know. Only too bad it has no gamepad support...

http://pinnaclegameprofiler.com/ works fine,and well worth it.It's lifetime and no limit on the numbers of pc's it's installed on.

 

It's 10 bucks atm,and you can even use it in windows too.

Modifié par N7_SP3CTR3, 03 avril 2015 - 08:42 .

[FrozenShadow]

Other thing I hate about that map.....Getting snipped by Primes from the hill on the other side of the map...Bravo to what ever sick F%^K thought that up.

 

Hmm, if that's the case, then shouldn't you also dislike Jade, Hydra, Dagger, London and Vancouver. You can get Prime snipped from other side of the map in all of these maps. It's especially bad during device missions, if you get unlucky.

 

Also, there is one thing I really hate about Collectors. The amount of XP you can get from them. Decent PUG gold game (unknown map/faction) takes about 20-25 min. With all 3 three other factions, you can easily get +400k even +500k xp at the end of it. But with collectors, you can barely get high 300k xp with all bonuses. And I don't like that all, especially when I'm levelling my chars after promotion.

[The NightMan Cometh]

^^^ I meant getting snipped from the porch side of the hill....getting nailed in the LZ or the open area to the left without even hearing the shots being fired...Those other maps you.. mentioned I am fine with all of them...their ammo boxes actually give you ammo (..Well...Dagger, why no grenades for me?)..And..I do really hate Jade devices..No matter what wave/faction it is.