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Why do folks hate Condor and/or Collectors?


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#101
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http://pinnaclegameprofiler.com/ works fine,and well worth it.It's lifetime and no limit on the numbers of pc's it's installed on. ;)

 

It's 10 bucks atm,and you can even use it in windows too.

 

I know I tried X-Padder before, but for a game where precise aiming is required, programming the speed of the aiming analog stick I could never get right. Like on consoles it has extra programming to start slower then then pick up speed or something (but not certain if this theory is correct. So just a guess on my part).

 

But I will consider it. So thanks.



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On Condor, Vanguarding turns from successfully killing enemies all over the map to trying to survive and not really contributing... at least in my case. I'm fine with any other kit, but if I get Condor/Anything when playing Vanguard, I sigh and prepare to be dead weight to my team mates. I need to git gud guys. 


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So I'm the only one that runs into Condor or Collector matches and the pugs go "Oh noes. Condor. Oh double noes! Collectors!!!" *[i]so and so pug player has left the mission


Did you consider they maybe locked at the loading like a lot of players get with the waiting for other players screen?

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I'm well aware of that waiting for other players bug with the amount of hours I have in this game. But no, they actually move around for a bit and somewhere down line they buckle. Same deal with Collectors. Folks just love to give up on either Condor or Collectors. And it's no wonder, since I see most pugs do the worst with either Condor or Collectors.

 

It's kind like whenever you see a KroLord or Guard, most like the game has been preset to Geth. Folks just prefer mindlessly easy.

 

EDIT - I bet you most associate the waiting for other  player black screen with Condor because most folks bail out on that stage. Because Vancouver is another one, but it's never mentioned.



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I don't hate condor or love it. I don't like collectors that much because i like powers and its kind of annoying how so many things get barriers
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I actualy like Condor. It's not my favorite map, but since I rarely get the glitches described by the others I don't mind it either.

 

I do hate the Collectors. That is because they are a lot tougher than the other enemies and bring the strong enemies in bigger numbers.

In a Reaper wave where there would be 2 Brutes and a Banshee, you'd get 3 Scions and 2 Praetorians.
That wouldn't be the big problem if they didn't take so much damage before going down.

Also Scions and Praetorians can take you down across half the map, Too many too strong opponents in comparison to the other factions.

 Add the possessed Abomintions...

I would be absolutely fine, If we'd get more xp and credits for collectors, but we don't.

 

I still rarely quit a game with collectors, because It's not the fairest thing to do to my teammates.

But when I just had 2 horrible team deaths already due to Collectors and I get another Collector game, I might still drop out.


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I actualy like Condor. It's not my favorite map, but since I rarely get the glitches described by the others I don't mind it either.

I do hate the Collectors. That is because they are a lot tougher than the other enemies and bring the strong enemies in bigger numbers.
In a Reaper wave where there would be 2 Brutes and a Banshee, you'd get 3 Scions and 2 Praetorians.
That wouldn't be the big problem if they didn't take so much damage before going down.

unless they get barriers up and you can't strip them easily scions die fairly quickly. shoot the pod things on the shoulder area instead of the head, the burst and do a chunk of damage

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unless they get barriers up and you can't strip them easily scions die fairly quickly. shoot the pod things on the shoulder area instead of the head, the burst and do a chunk of damage

 

Or just shoot the head with some piercing and you take out the hump in the back too.



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unless they get barriers up and you can't strip them easily scions die fairly quickly. shoot the pod things on the shoulder area instead of the head, the burst and do a chunk of damage

 

Possessed Scion ain't much of issue. Yes, they get more hp, they die easy enough. Possessed praetorian, well that's another story. If team doesn't have any hard hitting weapons, those are pain to kill. Even with headshots.



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Praetorians have a cap wave limit if the pugs decide to focus on them too much (something I wish Banshee's had), otherwise just run and fight something else. If not, rocket it if possessed.

 

And they don't seem that hard to take down with such a massive and clear headshot, in comparison to the much smaller and always squirming Banshee headshot.

 

What makes them hard in pug games is pugs not understanding the bubble mechanic. Or that hard cover is the proper way to dodge them butt lazers & homing shots.

 

 

Praetorians always get stuck too. Only pugs always get them unstuck with rockets, so... it could of been an advantage.  :D



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J. Peterman

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Loved Collectors, don't mind Condor unless it's Geth/Plat



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I don't mind collectors, but i really hate Condor....just too open and it's annoying getting hit from Phantoms "pew pew" from across the map on top of that mountain...the only other combo i hate is Condor/geth. Collectors actually put up a decent challenge without feeling cheap. Cerb/Geth are the only factions i find that can be incredibly cheap at times and it mostly concerns phantoms/dragoons and Geth rocket troopers.



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I actually really quite like Condor, it's aesthetically one of the most beautiful maps and I really feel like it's a battle on an alien planet. Yes the enemy shooting through cover is annoying, but I'm on PS3 so several other maps also have annoying glitches which makes Condor's issues less noticeable.

I also like Rio too..

Hazard Glacier is far more annoying, I REALLY hate that one.

Collectors on any map is more annoying, Geth cheat and stun-lock, Banshees cheat, Phantoms and Dragoons can be annoying for certain characters, but Collectors are still like fighting a level above. Praetorian cheating is really aggravating because they're also so difficult to kill, but it's the swarms that ruin fighting that faction for me, they just push the faction into the un-fun realm for me every time.

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Collectors are fun.

 

I love Collectors. 

 

As for Collectors.. I've actually grown to like them. My 2nd favorite faction actually. B/w possessed abom shenanigans, relatively low amount of cheese tactics and their easy to hit Alec Baldwin- John Travolta sized head, playing vs Collectors is always a good time.

 

As far as Collectors go, they are probably my favorite faction, both on Gold (for soloing) and Plat (for 2+ players). Yes. they can be dangerous, but they don't have much bullshit, aside from the crab, and even that one you can learn to manage as well as the other stuff, if you know the maps well enough.

 

I do like Collectors - they're a bit of a an entire glass cannon faction; they can really deal out punishment if you screw up but they don't have any tedious bullet-sponge (Atlas, Prime, Banshee) units. Praetorians are the closest thing but they've got an easy-to-hit headbox and a debilitating stagger (when they sort of jump/roll backwards). 

 

Loved Collectors

You're all fabulous.


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As many pugs as I've blown up with Collectors I consider myself an honorary member.

 


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#116
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You're all deranged.

Fixed.


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I actually really quite like Condor, it's aesthetically one of the most beautiful maps and I really feel like it's a battle on an alien planet. Yes the enemy shooting through cover is annoying, but I'm on PS3 so several other maps also have annoying glitches which makes Condor's issues less noticeable.

 

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Collectors on any map is more annoying, Geth cheat and stun-lock, Banshees cheat, Phantoms and Dragoons can be annoying for certain characters, but Collectors are still like fighting a level above. Praetorian cheating is really aggravating because they're also so difficult to kill, but it's the swarms that ruin fighting that faction for me, they just push the faction into the un-fun realm for me every time.

 

I kind of like Collectors.  I hate Geth Condor more than any other combination on this game.  I almost want to quit if I do U/U/G and it comes up with Geth Condor.



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Because the N720 with a Shuriken II just preset it to Platinum, Collectors, Condor.

 

=/

 

And I've been shunted into his lobby 3 times in a row now.



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Collector's are too hard

 

BEES  (how do you beat bees? honey and flowers really... maybe the hexagonal armor bonus)

Carapace (houses knowledge so you can headshot MORE, but they made mass effect fields so they live EVERY TIME)

 

http://steamcommunit...s/?id=392218420

 

The closest I've come, is with the Batarian Adept online.  I've come to know the players, and playstyles... but to TAKE EVERYTHING BACK from the race before the resets started happening...

 

The other one that messed up.  Well you need skills but the bees turn em off lool.



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Collector's are too hard

 

BEES  (how do you beat bees? honey and flowers really... maybe the hexagonal armor bonus)

Carapace (houses knowledge so you can headshot MORE, but they made mass effect fields so they live EVERY TIME)

 

http://steamcommunit...s/?id=392218420

 

The closest I've come, is with the Batarian Adept online.  I've come to know the players, and playstyles... but to TAKE EVERYTHING BACK from the race before the resets started happening...

 

The other one that messed up.  Well you need skills but the bees turn em off lool.

I need a translation.


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#121
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I need a translation.

I do too. The only part I understood is about the hexagonal armor bonus : it's probably a gear reserved to french players. Or not.


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I need a translation.

 

I have a hunch this went through a google translate already.



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Typically I prefer to actually get some ammo when I go to an ammo box.



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Condor: I'd prefer Condor over RainyMcTownPlace. The useless cover is annoying, but it's not impossible to work with.

Collectors: You can instantly tell who ISN'T playing on PS3 by them liking collectors. On PS3, they're a buggy mess (pun not intended, but acknowledged.) Game is prone to freezing completely, 3/4 of the time, grenades won't even be thrown despite still depleting your count, etc. I've even had one or two games where a seeker swarm did not wear off, rendering me unable to use any powers for the rest of the game. And the lag. Good geez. I've had lobbies that were 100% smooth and free of any lag, and suddenly Collectors come up on Unknown Enemy and we're dying to shots from enemies that are behind us as we gun them down in front of us. What? That makes no sense, you say? EXACTLY!

 

EDIT: To explain, there's a single Captain left, marked as the last enemy and everything. It's in front of me. A full clip of headshots. Nothing. Suddenly I die and it walks up from behind me to stomp me. That's not all that common, but it's just a taste of how stupid collectors are on PS3.
 

Seriously. Collectors were not tested on PS3, and just ported/kicked out the door. Screw the collectors on PS3. Up the rear. With a sharp spiky protrusion. That's rusted. And no lubricant.

 

EDIT 2: No. They're not ALWAYS bad. On rare occasions they can run smoothly. But the thread is "why do people hate Condor and/or Collectors" and that's why I despise collectors.


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#125
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Never minded collectors until I started playing on pos3.  They're the worst for forcing a reboot.