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BioWare you sold me a game thats broken and unplayable.


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Heh, the analogies in this thread. It's not like the OP bought the PS4 version and then acted surprised because it didn't run on their PS3.


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Well that escalated quickly

 

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Well that escalated quickly

 

-D-

 

Funny how its usually the DAI fans who escalate things now.


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Well that escalated quickly

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Key reason why I always say my piece and walk off, this thread was never going to end well

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PC here.

 

Information wise, a call for help like "my PS3/Xbox doesn't work" will get you nowhere., no matter what hardware platform you use to play the game. My SIG, for example, contains my hardware/software platform and knowledgeable folks can use that information to provide a possible solution. Old Gen consoles come in different "flavours" in memory and/or disk storage sizes. That specific hardware information is usefull.

 

Having said that, recent patches (5 or 6) seem to use more memory, according to  a beta tester and there was a change in the Graphics Option menu. Obviously if you are currently squeaking by with your memory configuration, the additional game bloat won't help you any.

 

A quick and dirty attempt to fix a problem is to change your graphics settings to LOW and work your way up. The smart one will make a note of their current setttings.  Remember that the higher the game settings the more demanding it will become in CPU, memory and graphics resources. There is little visual difference between ULTRA and HIGH settings but quite a difference in resource usage.

 

Good news for some folks.

Nvidia released a new graphics driver version 350.05. As a  HOTFIX driver, it's  a beta release and aims to fix Frostbite 3 crashes with Battlefield and Inquisition games.

 

One Nvidia SLI user solved his game problems by going to a single card.

 

Hope that helps.



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Funny how its usually the DAI fans who escalate things now.

I've been called an idiot for liking DA:I in other threads before, along with other insults, by folks that didn't like the game.  It's just one of the DA:I fans that escalated things this time.  No one's coming out of this looking pretty. 



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But again this is a growing problem with all developers imo. We gamers just have to stop buying stuff until proper reviews are in since the devs don't seem to take proper responsibility.

 

Precisely this. However it's a dead end, as far as old gen consoles are concenred, cause no reviews have ever been released, for example, for xbox360 for DAI, despite the fact that the company claimed since the beginning the game would have been for old gens as well. But most reviews are for new gen consoles. Which is fine. But, even for new gens, seeing all the problems players with brand new XBONEs and PS4s are having, I say that your advice is sound across the board. We should REALLY be very careful about reviews, customer comments and stuff like that, checking around before buying so-called AAA games from now on. Even on the new gens. 



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Yeah the way they take shortcuts it could really be any group that gets screwed over. If a game is developed on pS4 and ported to XBone it could be the Xbox group that is stuck holding a paperweight (if you go digital could be screwed out of the paperweight:p)

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Yeah the way they take shortcuts it could really be any group that gets screwed over. If a game is developed on pS4 and ported to XBone it could be the Xbox group that is stuck holding a paperweight (if you go digital could be screwed out of the paperweight:p)

 

PS4 and XBONE are having issues very much related to many of the PC issues as well. It's not a singular thing, this. It seems to be a generic lack of attention, and the fact that there was no actual QA didn't help things either. Trying to be all-inclusive (money talks) they got short for time, and early release meant the game was unplayable for even a large part of the advanced-tech players. I just hope they LEARN THE LESSON from this, as I don't think they're gonna fix anything (legal complexities of admitting prior knowledge). Bu there's ME4 on the horizon, and I just hope we don't get to see the same deplorable tactics used there too. 


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Amen Octarin. ME4 already has a big enough shadow hanging over it, if they don't learn from their lessons here it could cripple the ME franchise

 

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Amen Octarin. ME4 already has a big enough shadow hanging over it, if they don't learn from their lessons here it could cripple that particular franchise

 

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If I voice the opinion that I am highly disillusioned already and I don't think anything we say will matter to them when making ME4 will you call me a killjoy? Given the circumstances? Mind, I can't play this game since release. I just pray to gods they don't release ME4 for old gens too. 



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If I voice the opinion that I am highly disillusioned already and I don't think anything we say will matter to them when making ME4 will you call me a killjoy? Given the circumstances? Mind, I can't play this game since release. I just pray to gods they don't release ME4 for old gens too. 

I have a feeling that this is going to be the last new game released on the 7th gen consoles from BioWare.  We might see some sort of HD Remaster of the ME series on Xbox/PS3 (ala God of War and FFX/X-2,) but I think this is probably it for the newest titles.   Over time I've become convinced that a lot of the problems that's inherent in the game (regardless of platform) came with BW stretching themselves too thin.  It's pretty sad that so many of us, no matter what we play on, do have some of the same problems.

 

If it means a darned thing,  I personally wouldn't call you a killjoy.  In my opinion, a killjoy is someone that goes out of their way to make others feel bad for liking something that they themselves dislike.  You're very skeptical and cautious, which given your experiences is understandable.  Yet, I've never seen you completely rip into a fan of the game, nor do you go into positive threads to call people things like "sheep."    You've never tried to insult me for expressing enjoyment of the game either, which I have always appreciated.  

 

I'd call you a very dissatisfied and disappointed customer, but not a killjoy as far as I'm concerned.   :)


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I just pray they didn't give up because on us, because I actully enjoy DA:I. I don't think its the best game ever or anything but I really enjoy the story and the combat. PS3 has been around how long now 10-11 years maybe longer? You think by now they could make a game run on it. One of the few perks us console people have is our games should work. Work without grapics updates, work without being configured. If you buy a pc game it may or may not work for your pc. If you buy a ps3 game the damn thing better work for ps3.



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I have a feeling that this is going to be the last new game released on the 7th gen consoles from BioWare.  We might see some sort of HD Remaster of the ME series on Xbox/PS3 (ala God of War and FFX/X-2,) but I think this is probably it for the newest titles.   Over time I've become convinced that a lot of the problems that's inherent in the game (regardless of platform) came with BW stretching themselves too thin.  It's pretty sad that so many of us, no matter what we play on, do have some of the same problems.

 

If it means a darned thing,  I personally wouldn't call you a killjoy.  In my opinion, a killjoy is someone that goes out of their way to make others feel bad for liking something that they themselves dislike.  You're very skeptical and cautious, which given your experiences is understandable.  Yet, I've never seen you completely rip into a fan of the game, nor do you go into positive threads to call people things like "sheep."    You've never tried to insult me for expressing enjoyment of the game either, which I have always appreciated.  

 

I'd call you a very dissatisfied and disappointed customer, but not a killjoy as far as I'm concerned.   :)

 

Well, thanks, heh, believe me I've ripped into several people, but they rubbed me the totally wrong way... heck, one doesn't earn two entire warning points for mere trifles! :P Seriously now, people have been amazingly rude when someone would come up and say "hey, it's not working!" and I often fly off the bat at cases like this, see above, I lost my temper a tad there. As for enjoying the game, well, that's what we all want isn't it? I mean, if we didn't give a toss, we wouldn't be bothering complaining all these months since November. But it seems that you are trying to tell people something that is pervasively apparent to you, like the fact the EA/Bioware went for a quick money grab with this all-inclusive scheme, and it's like they have a blind spot, and you're insulting their momma or something. The things I've been called cause of it... anyway, it's the principle of the thing at this stage really, I don't expect my xbox360 version to fix itself. I'll get it for xbone eventually, hand this one in for used. But still, why would I have to pay the game twice, seems quite unfair doesn't it? As if I'm getting punished for being unable to enjoy the game for 4+ months. 

 

Oh, by the way, GameInformer is already talking about the Swan song of old gens, so I do believe you're correct in your assessment. 



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I've mentioned this in other threads, but it's unfortunate to me that others that share this hobby feel a compulsion to insult each other over differences.  Too often online, someone saying, "I didn't like X game" or "I found X aspect of this game frustrating" or "I feel betrayed by the company" somehow translates into "I don't like you."  I do think folks take this hobby far too seriously sometimes.   I've been snarky and flaming towards others as well, but I either leave the more incendiary posts alone, or try to genuinely help guide folks towards places that might assist them.  Like I tried to do with one of the posters in here, before I was insulted for linking to Panda's thread.

 

By the way, if you do pick up DA:I for next gen, I hope you enjoy it.  It's crappy that you're looking at that as an option, but I hope you don't end up feeling like you've wasted your money for a second time.   :)

 

I caught your edit.  I've been reading a lot about that since the year started.  


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Actually they aren't under any such obligation. When someone willingly spends money on a product that ends up not working, it's not automatically the fault of the people who made the product.

So if a car dealership sells you a lemon they ensured would work, you're just gonna shrug and say "Whelp, that's $10,000 gone.  I guess I should have been a better consumer." *shrug*

 

I honestly do not understand this seemingly new concept that companies are never at fault for the products they sell.  I will never understand that logic.  Sure a consumer should be more weary of a product before buying but how on earth is he supposed to know the product doesn't work as freaking advertised?  It's not like Bioware is going to admit to it's failings before the consumer purchases it.  It's something that the buyer has to figure out once they buy.


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The game works for me.


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So if a car dealership sells you a lemon they ensured would work, you're just gonna shrug and say "Whelp, that's $10,000 gone.  I guess I should have been a better consumer." *shrug*

 

I honestly do not understand this seemingly new concept that companies are never at fault for the products they sell.  I will never understand that logic.  Sure a consumer should be more weary of a product before buying but how on earth is he supposed to know the product doesn't work as freaking advertised?  It's not like Bioware is going to admit to it's failings before the consumer purchases it.  It's something that the buyer has to figure out once they buy.

 

Either this person works for EA or is completely delusional



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Either this person works for EA or is completely delusional

I think what they are saying is true.

 

If someone buys something and its broken the company that sold it MUST do one of 3 things. 1. Refund  2. Replace  3. Fix it.  Otherwise its pretty much fraud.


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I've mentioned this in other threads, but it's unfortunate to me that others that share this hobby feel a compulsion to insult each other over differences.  Too often online, someone saying, "I didn't like X game" or "I found X aspect of this game frustrating" or "I feel betrayed by the company" somehow translates into "I don't like you."  I do think folks take this hobby far too seriously sometimes.   I've been snarky and flaming towards others as well, but I either leave the more incendiary posts alone, or try to genuinely help guide folks towards places that might assist them.  Like I tried to do with one of the posters in here, before I was insulted for linking to Panda's thread.

 

By the way, if you do pick up DA:I for next gen, I hope you enjoy it.  It's crappy that you're looking at that as an option, but I hope you don't end up feeling like you've wasted your money for a second time.   :)

 

I caught your edit.  I've been reading a lot about that since the year started.  

 

LOL, insulted for linking to Panda's thread. Go figure. I've got the thing blaring in flashy DOS-mode blue in my sig. Oh, some people. It's something a few other people have said at times, these forums are OPINION forums, not FANATIC CULT INDUCTION forums, we're not the KKK or the White Man's Association to disallow dissent or difference of opinion. Sheep would be a good description for people who feel the need to band together in some sort of "crusade" to prove the purity of the company or the franchise... personally wouldn't even do that with god, let alone a game. But that's just me. Disturbing though. 

 

Edit-wise, I'm surprised that they keep on selling xbox360s at all, tbh. I just saw a good sale of the 360E plus 12 months live gold and a game for 250 euro. Why bother since they're already dying... oh well.


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 Uhm, that is Irrelevant really. He bought a product,and because it was sold as a PS3 Game, it is supposed to work on a PS3. If it's not working, than he is entitled to complain because: he spent his money, on a product that was marketed as playable on PS3

 

If they could not get it to function properly, than they should have made it new-gen exclusive.

 

It's not irrelevant because the PS3 has a number of issues with cross platform games. I've got both the PS3 & Xbox 360 and every single cross platform game I bought for the PS3 had issues and I eventually bought their 360 versions and stopped buying cross platform games for the PS3 altogether.

 

Skyrim eventually became unplayable, as did both Fallout 3 & Fallout NV. I also had some issues with both the previous Dragon Age games. 

 

All of these games were marketed as playable on the PS3 when it was a modern system and all of them had problems. 



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(if you go digital could be screwed out of the paperweight:p)

For real! I can't get my 5 bucks from gamestop lol.



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The OP is talking about specific bugs/problems that can be fixed not general performance issues.



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It sucks to know that the game pretty much works (for me at least) and all BioWare would have to do is spend a hour or two fixing a few bugs and I'd probably be able to play just fine. But for whatever reason they choose not to. They choose to leave me with a broken game and that's not right. Spend a few hours helping us little people would you? We are the reason you sold so many copies of this game. If you ignore us now, when your next game comes out we are going to be the reason you don't.



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(to The Cass Man) You seem to be pretty certain that Bioware is deliberately choosing to not deal with bugs and that said bugs would be easily dealt with in a couple of hours?

 

This seems more a case of a lack of proper communication and low prioritization of platform-issues which are problems in on themselves but I sincerely doubt a company deliberately chooses to ignore apparently easily fixable bugs for no apparent reason.


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