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Arishok's Vitaar or Vitaar of the Dragon Hunter


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Which is better for pure DPS warrior? 

 

Damage: 19
Stats:
+8% Attack
+4% Critical Chance
+4 Willpower
 
Damage: 20
Stats:
+5% Attack
+8% Critical Damage Bonus
+9 Strength


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Remember each point of Strength is 0.5 attack, as but only for warriors. Willpower affects all classes, so the second one (Dragon Hunter?) would be better for a warrior (slightly) and the first (Arishok?) would be better for rogues and mages. But really, it's barely different.



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But the 2nd one gives 9.5% attack% while the first gives 10% attack%? Or does the 2nd one round up? 



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But the 2nd one gives 9.5% attack% while the first gives 10% attack%? Or does the 2nd one round up? 

I honestly don't know if they round up, but if not, that's correct. So, 20 damage and 9.5% attack, or 19 damage and 10% attack. Very similar. So I guess just decide if you like a small boost to critical chance and magic defense, or a medium boost to critical damage and guard damage bonus.



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My question was which one would give me the most damage? 9.5%/20 or 10%/19



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My question was which one would give me the most damage? 9.5%/20 or 10%/19



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They're nearly identical in terms of damage boost, but if you're using Flow of the battle then critical chance is superior.



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My question was which one would give me the most damage? 9.5%/20 or 10%/19

That depends on your base damage, but it really will be almost identical. Take whatever your base damage is (without a vitaar), then add either 19 to it, or 20, then the same with your attack% and see what happens. And remember, that's only for warriors, however.

 

They're nearly identical in terms of damage boost, but if you're using Flow of the battle then critical chance is superior.

And also that.



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My question was which one would give me the most damage? 9.5%/20 or 10%/19

As pointed out, an absolute answer in a vacuum isn't very useful. What's your Crit Chance? Are you at the point where Magic Def is important?

 

Min/max optimization needs to be in context.

 

But if you really want an absolute answer, here's the damage formula:

 

final_damage = (base_damage * rand(0.95 to 1.05) - armor * (1 - armor_penetration))
* (ability_multiplier)
* (1 + critical_damage_bonus + flanking_bonus)
* (1 + attack_bonus + damage_multiplier + type_bonus)
* (1 - magic_resistance)

 

 

Fill in the relevant numbers and set everything else to zero. Normalize the random value to 1.0. 

 

EDIT: Ok, I admit that curiosity got to me. If I assume crit chance is 1% and crit damage is 1% as a baseline, I get this.

 

19 * (1 + ((0.01 + 0.04) * 0.01)) * (1 + (0.08 + 0.02)) = 19 * 1.0005 * 1.1 = 20.91045

 

20 * (1 + (0.01 * (0.01 + 0.08))) * (1 + (0.05 + 0.045)) = 20 * 1.0009 * 1.095 = 21.91971

 

 



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This would also depend on whether you plan to have Varric as a main party member or not. If so, crit chance will help him greatly, if not, it is just as useful as it is on everyone else.