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[Chronic2]

Hey, big fan of the dragon age series, been planning on getting this for ages yet havent had the time. Im excited about this because this game has removed the limits that were on in the previous games, with previous games practically forcing you to be rogue to reap the most benefits, with cunning affecting interaction between characters and lockpicking, you were practically forced into that role. Now i enjoy the rogue role anyway so it wasnt much of a letdown, they didnt force that role onto us, but for those who want to get the most out of their game experience... meh.

 

So briefly reading up on the game, ive came up with what i want my party to be;

• Sera- Archer - With Morrigan being a non companion im going to miss her snarky sarcasm and funny dialog, i hear Sera has a great personality and i love sarcastic enthusiastic attitudes so. Plus I like the Archer class in more games.
• Vivienne - Offtank/Healer - From what im heard and read, she can be built to be very tanky and can really take a beating. So for party support shes ideal.
• Solas - DamageMage (Thinking fire mage?)/healer - Really considering a tanky group, a group that can really take abeating so the idea of having 2 healers is somewhat appealing to me.
• Me - Qunari (Physical damage reduction) Shield and sword Vanguard - Companion/templar (Thinking templar because of the amount of demons in the game?) Rarely play the tank class, might aswell give it ago.

 

Problems with my idea, where the hell is my damage? Really worried about this since i havent even played the game yet, i imagine im going to be scratching at world bosses etc. 2 healers is overkill?

 

Without including spoilers (if possible) are any of my companions going to mysteriously run off because of story related content? like many have done in the past games... ugh... 

[SofaJockey]

'Healers' don't work quite the same. Whilst every mage can barrier to prevent damage, warrior and rogue classes are just as responsible for reducing damage by generating guard and/or staying out of trouble.

 

The party mix you have listed is fun and I'm sure they will all get along just fine  . Essentially the game is very tolerant of you mixing it up. You could just as easily take a second warrior like Cassandra or Blackwall, and so it is well worth it to swap out different characters you enjoy.

 

And don't worry about your party, there's really nothing to be too concerned about 

[PapaCharlie9]

And don't worry about your party, there's really nothing to be too concerned about 

Agreed. You can't really make a mistake in terms of preparedness when you can reasonably solo the entire game on Nightmare without trying too hard.

 

That said, I'll nitpick your party a little.

 

If you liked Morrigan's banter, you'll want to check out Dorian. He's arguably the snarkiest character. Sera is great too, but not on the level of Morrigan's cutting wit. Sera's more about pouring custard down the stairs and seeing who slips. Or talking about "tools" incessantly, to every male party member's chagrin.

 

I would argue against trying to tank with Vivienne on your first run. It can be done, but you'll understand better how to do it after you've seen how Act 1 and Act 2 differ dramatically due to specializations. Stick with something more traditional, like Blackwall or yourself if you are going SnS.

 

Solas is a great all-around choice. He can play offense and defense equally well.

 

In sum, swap Blackwall for Vivienne OR swap Dorian for Vivienne for Act 1. After specialization, you can replace either Dorian or Blackwall with Vivienne.

 

You can respec all characters multiple times, so no worries about not getting things exactly right. In fact, respecing after specialization is advisable.

 

No worries about damage either, you've got plenty of firepower.

[Biotic Flash Kick]

Looks good to be quite honest

qunari just facetanks most everything as SnS

more so as champion

burst damage or stun with Templar 

[JeffKaos]

I prefer Varric for my "ranged DPS". You never have to worry about finding and min/maxing weapons on him and can get some pretty descent upgrades for his crossbow. I play as S&S warrior and party up with Varric, Dorian and Cassandra and the banter isn't too bad between the 3 and Dorian as a "flame mage" can lay down some serious hurt on enemies; especially if he can panic them. In my opinion Dorian is the funnest character in the game and actually has a cool personality. Him and Varric are the most "realistic" characters in the game, although Iron Bull seems almost as realistic as those two.

[Sylvius the Mad]

Hey, big fan of the dragon age series, been planning on getting this for ages yet havent had the time. Im excited about this because this game has removed the limits that were on in the previous games, with previous games practically forcing you to be rogue to reap the most benefits, with cunning affecting interaction between characters and lockpicking, you were practically forced into that role. Now i enjoy the rogue role anyway so it wasnt much of a letdown, they didnt force that role onto us, but for those who want to get the most out of their game experience... meh.

 

So briefly reading up on the game, ive came up with what i want my party to be;

• Sera- Archer - With Morrigan being a non companion im going to miss her snarky sarcasm and funny dialog, i hear Sera has a great personality and i love sarcastic enthusiastic attitudes so. Plus I like the Archer class in more games.
• Vivienne - Offtank/Healer - From what im heard and read, she can be built to be very tanky and can really take a beating. So for party support shes ideal.
• Solas - DamageMage (Thinking fire mage?)/healer - Really considering a tanky group, a group that can really take abeating so the idea of having 2 healers is somewhat appealing to me.
• Me - Qunari (Physical damage reduction) Shield and sword Vanguard - Companion/templar (Thinking templar because of the amount of demons in the game?) Rarely play the tank class, might aswell give it ago.

 

Problems with my idea, where the hell is my damage? Really worried about this since i havent even played the game yet, i imagine im going to be scratching at world bosses etc. 2 healers is overkill?

 

Without including spoilers (if possible) are any of my companions going to mysteriously run off because of story related content? like many have done in the past games... ugh... 

Solas has no capacity as a healer at all.  Vivienne can do limited healing, but that's not an efficient use of her.

 

The game doesn't really need a healer (which is good, because you can't really be one).  As mentioned above, Dorian's an excellent source of snark.  Also, while Vivienne can be a terrific tank, she's not the most damaging.  You might prefer running with Solas and Dorian together, or replacing Vivienne with another Rogue (rogues used in combination with mages can do amazing damage).  Read the ability descriptions.  Work out what would work together.

 

Hints:

Spoiler

Static Cage

Mark of Death

 

Using those in combination with abilities that hit multiple times (Energy Barrage, Leaping Shot, Flask of Fire, Thousand Cuts) will really add up.

[goofyomnivore]

If you want reliable healing. There is a spider under a Keep you capture that drops a "healing mist" grenade. You start with 3 slots but I think you can get it up to 6. It is pretty much an aoe heal you can upgrade with crafting.

 

Sera is by far the best rogue AI wise. Her specialization is pretty much full of steroids. Just set her steroids to priority in tactics and she will do a ton of dps. Personality wise Sera has quite a bit of snark especially when talking to Solas and Vivienne. Dorian is probably the King of Snark in DA:I though. He doesn't take a damn thing seriously.

 

I would replace Vivienne with Dorian personally. His spec is somewhat underwhelming IMO, so you can you spread his points into utility trees while still keeping the dps trees. Vivienne's spec doesn't play well with the AI either unless you enjoy micromanaging companions. But if you want to play her/micromanage her she is very strong. She can do some ridiculous things once you get her some decent gear/levels.

 

Solas is pretty good damage/CC and has some interesting dialogue with Sera. He is probably my favorite AI mage to take in groups in terms of combat effectiveness.

 

As for your PC/damage concerns. SnS warriors can do a crapton of damage if you gear/spec properly. There are some neat things you can do with the champion spec to murder bosses and Templar is excellent at killing trash mobs. I would personally choose Champion since trash dies really easy once you get good gear.

[deadkai]

I prefer Varric for my "ranged DPS". You never have to worry about finding and min/maxing weapons on him and can get some pretty descent upgrades for his crossbow. I play as S&S warrior and party up with Varric, Dorian and Cassandra and the banter isn't too bad between the 3 and Dorian as a "flame mage" can lay down some serious hurt on enemies; especially if he can panic them. In my opinion Dorian is the funnest character in the game and actually has a cool personality. Him and Varric are the most "realistic" characters in the game, although Iron Bull seems almost as realistic as those two.

Bianca has no masterwork slot,making the crossbow inferior compared with  other bows.

[PapaCharlie9]

If you want reliable healing. There is a spider under a Keep you capture that drops a "healing mist" grenade. You start with 3 slots but I think you can get it up to 6. It is pretty much an aoe heal you can upgrade with crafting.

Three slots is the max (unless the DLC changed that?), and you have to use a Perk point to get three. Unless you meant you can get up to 6 grenades in a single slot? That's true.

[goofyomnivore]

I thought you started with 3 base, could buy a 2 slot grenade belt and picked a perk for +3 total. I honestly dunno for sure. I rarely use grenades as they are all op or useless. Every companion can carry them so you can load up on em if you really want healing I suppose too. I haven't played in a month or two tho. Been replaying The Witchers to get familiar before May.

[caradoc2000]

Without including spoilers (if possible) are any of my companions going to mysteriously run off because of story related content? like many have done in the past games... ugh...

Yes, you can lose party members, but mostly by choice.

[PapaCharlie9]

I thought you started with 3 base, could buy a 2 slot grenade belt and picked a perk for +3 total. I honestly dunno for sure. I rarely use grenades as they are all op or useless. Every companion can carry them so you can load up on em if you really want healing I suppose too.

That's right, but if you are counting total party slots, it's a bit weird, since the healing potion slot is dedicated to that potion type and it is shared across party members. So it's 8 max configurable slots, assuming 4 party members and the +1 slot Perk.

 

What I'm not sure about is if a single character can double up on item types. Can you put healing mist grenades into two slots at the same time on one character? If you can, the slot max is 8, party wide. If you can't, the max is 4, party wide.

 

Base grenades per slot is 3. There are +1 and +2 belts that you could theoretically put on every character and/or a Tempest ability, but I don't think that stacks. There is a unique belt that is +3 grenades that you could put on one character (assuming no duping). So theoretical max carrying capacity for healing mist grenades, assuming you can't double up, is 3x5 + 6 = 21. Wow. That's a lot of grenades.

[Chronic2]

GAME UPDATE SO FAR

 

Right so as promised I'm a warrior, but my party set-up has changed for the moment. Since specialisations haven't been reached yet I assumed I might aswell go for a more damaging setup, then ill go SnS and build as a tank. 

 

Currently I'm running as a 2 handed warrior, along with Iron Bull who is also running with a 2 handed weapon. 2 charges and 2 earthquakes. Suffice to say that mobs dont last very long. Boss fights i usually have to panic around with dividing potions between ironbull and myself, kiting bosses as their final 10% health is finished off by my 2nd line because Ironbull is dead (usually takes the aggro) and im running around with 10% health and 1 shot off dead.

Once specialisations get added in (act 2?) ill be running as a SnS with vivienne as an offtank/DPS. Dorian/Solas as a firemage/riftmage (Dont know if Dorian can even be a rift mage) And Sera.

 

Since im still on my first play through, i was wondering, if i dont take certain party members on a mission with me, will their approval still be affected? I.E if i dont take solas, will his approval still be affected by conscripting mages?

 

Also loving the game so far

[PapaCharlie9]

Since im still on my first play through, i was wondering, if i dont take certain party members on a mission with me, will their approval still be affected? I.E if i dont take solas, will his approval still be affected by conscripting mages?

 

Yes. People in Thedas like to gossip and, well, Leliana's spies are everywhere. Whatever you say or do gets back to everyone you know.

[Sylvius the Mad]

GAME UPDATE SO FAR

Right so as promised I'm a warrior, but my party set-up has changed for the moment. Since specialisations haven't been reached yet I assumed I might aswell go for a more damaging setup, then ill go SnS and build as a tank.

Currently I'm running as a 2 handed warrior, along with Iron Bull who is also running with a 2 handed weapon. 2 charges and 2 earthquakes. Suffice to say that mobs dont last very long. Boss fights i usually have to panic around with dividing potions between ironbull and myself, kiting bosses as their final 10% health is finished off by my 2nd line because Ironbull is dead (usually takes the aggro) and im running around with 10% health and 1 shot off dead.
Once specialisations get added in (act 2?) ill be running as a SnS with vivienne as an offtank/DPS. Dorian/Solas as a firemage/riftmage (Dont know if Dorian can even be a rift mage) And Sera.

Since im still on my first play through, i was wondering, if i dont take certain party members on a mission with me, will their approval still be affected? I.E if i dont take solas, will his approval still be affected by conscripting mages?

Also loving the game so far

Though some positive approval effects are larger when the relevant character is with you.