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[MyKingdomCold]

For my other character I got Celene and Briala to rule together but Gaspard was executed.  Is it possible to have the two rule together but have Gaspard not killed? Like maybe exiled or something? 

[Master Warder Z_]

Yes.

You have to prompt Celene to spare him in place of her cooperation with the elf.

Gaspard will automatically move to execute the elf though if you aren't blackmailing him.

[Archdemon_Urthemiel]

No. Gaspard has to die if you want to reconcile celene and briala

[Master Warder Z_]

Why would you want to do that...

[Lady Artifice]

So what happens to Briala when you try to reunite Briala and Celene (with the whole keepsake, thing), but tell Celene to spare Gaspard? Briala just keeps at it with her rebellion? 

[riverbanks]

You can force all three to "work together" by blackmailing everyone and throwing in their faces that you're better at their Game than all three combined. It's not really an agreement to co-operate or anything, you're mostly just slapping them all on the wrist and telling them to stop being such a P.I.T.A. to each other.

[Archdemon_Urthemiel]

So what happens to Briala when you try to reunite Briala and Celene (with the whole keepsake, thing), but tell Celene to spare Gaspard? Briala just keeps at it with her rebellion?

I don't really know. Apparently celene bests briala somehow. Don't know how any of these interactions will matter considering they are not in the keep

[Xilizhra]

So what happens to Briala when you try to reunite Briala and Celene (with the whole keepsake, thing), but tell Celene to spare Gaspard? Briala just keeps at it with her rebellion? 

It's literally impossible to do so, as the dialogue option to get them to reconcile and the dialogue option to have Gaspard be spared are mutually exclusive.

 

Why would you want to in any case? Leaving Gaspard alive just means he'll try to restart the war at some later date.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Why would you want to do that...

Because Briala and Celene end up being the best result for making Orlais better, and it removes a warmonger from causing any more trouble. Win-win. 

[Dark Helmet]

Because Briala and Celene end up being the best result for making Orlais better, and it removes a warmonger from causing any more trouble. Win-win. 

 

That's pretty funny.

 

You know Gaspard's sister was hilariously stupid but she DID do something right. She ended that incompetent excuse for an Empress allowing the proper Emperor to assume his throne.

 

Where he promptly disposed of Celene's former toy.

 

Long live the Emperor! Long live The Empire!

[Archdemon_Urthemiel]

That's pretty funny.

You know Gaspard's sister was hilariously stupid but she DID do something right. She ended that incompetent excuse for an Empress allowing the proper Emperor to assume his throne.

Where he promptly disposed of Celene's former toy.

Long live the Emperor! Long live The Empire!

Maybe you're okay with a racist warmonger but I'm not.

Reconciling Celene and Briala has the best chance for both prosperity and helping elves.

Also, this Gaspard circle jerk is just sad and pathetic. It's fine if you like a racist warmonger but going to every thread that so much as mentions Celene and acting as though Gaspard is canon just makes you people look pathetic.

[DarkKnightHolmes]

I'll never understand how Briala and Celene working together can even be a choice after The Masked Empire. Briala must be really broken to go back to a relationship like that. I wish the Civil war was more flushed out in DAI.

[Nehn]

Does no one here let Briala rule alone? It seems as though people choose Briala/Celene or Gaspard ruling alone. 

[Lady Artifice]

I'll never understand how Briala and Celene working together can even be a choice after The Masked Empire. Briala must be really broken to go back to a relationship like that. I wish the Civil war was more flushed out in DAI.

I was surprised about that as well. After that ending I would have thought, "no chance."

Briala changed between the events of the novel and those of the the game. I think her spirit just...broke.

[Lukas Trevelyan]

Does no one here let Briala rule alone? It seems as though people choose Briala/Celene or Gaspard ruling alone. 

 

I'm pretty sure I went with Celene alone in my first playthrough. Then I just went Briala/Celene/Gaspard which I'll probably change to Briala/Celene in my canon. 

[Xilizhra]

I was surprised about that as well. After that ending I would have thought, "no chance."

Briala changed between the events of the novel and those of the the game. I think her spirit just...broke.

I don't think so. If she's exiled, she continues the rebellion. I'm pretty sure her spirit remains unbroken.

[Lady Artifice]

I don't think so. If she's exiled, she continues the rebellion. I'm pretty sure her spirit remains unbroken.

Her tactics have changed, become more extreme and ruthless. I would have never pictured the Briala of the book liberally sacrificing her own people.

At the end of TME, she sees Celene objectively, and then in the game all it takes for her to dive back into that relationship again is hearing that Celene is still sentimental?

Just, ick. Im not even entirely convinced that she's motivated by her residual feelings for Celene and not her political goals.

"Broken" is arguable, sure, but something's changed in her.

[Amne YA]

those who kill  gaspard   know nothing about emperium or kingdoms   ,  killing gaspard is  killing Orlisiyan emprorium
i will explique : i m from the moroccan kingdom , and i think people from the UK and other kingdom  will understind what i m saying .
The  Heritage of the kingdome family  go from  the Male Big son to the Male big son   and go one ..
if the king have a daughter than a son the son becaume king even if his sister is bigger .  cause the blood   and last name go with the males  like we all know . 
If the king have only daughters , but he have a brother his brother bicaume king after his death .
If the king have only daughters , but he have a brother that have a son . when the brother became king and die, his son becaume king .
if the king only have daughters   and don"t have brothers , it"s his uncle that become king ( the brother of his father ) 
if  the king die  whith no male  left in the family . the big daughter of the king becaume queen ( because she have the last name and the blood of the royal family ) like what happening in englend now with queen elizabeth 
BUT AFTER THE DEATH OG THE QUEEN ? THE ROYALITY ENDS  end the kingdom turn to repuplique 
So in the case  of Orlais  they have a queen , but their is  a male  from the royal family and that"s why he clam the trone cause Celen took the thron even if their is a male from the royal family , after her death even if noone kill her the thron is going to him .
so killing him end the Orlisian blood line , end with the death of Celen after years ,  the Orlisian empirium fall .
making a empruim fall for  a love story betwen an elf and a empress ? seriously ? you are the inquisitor act as a leader and not a horny teenager  

[Xilizhra]

Her tactics have changed, become more extreme and ruthless. I would have never pictured the Briala of the book liberally sacrificing her own people.

At the end of TME, she sees Celene objectively, and then in the game all it takes for her to dive back into that relationship again is hearing that Celene is still sentimental?

Just, ick. Im not even entirely convinced that she's motivated by her residual feelings for Celene and not her political goals.

"Broken" is arguable, sure, but something's changed in her.

I don't think Briala does deliberately sacrifice anyone. I need to play the quest again, but I think her servants get killed by the Venatori, and the survivor only thinks that Briala sacrificed them.

[MoonDrummer]

Why would you want to do that...

Some people like playing as an evil inquisitor.

[FiveThreeTen]

Her tactics have changed, become more extreme and ruthless. I would have never pictured the Briala of the book liberally sacrificing her own people.

At the end of TME, she sees Celene objectively, and then in the game all it takes for her to dive back into that relationship again is hearing that Celene is still sentimental?

Just, ick. Im not even entirely convinced that she's motivated by her residual feelings for Celene and not her political goals.

"Broken" is arguable, sure, but something's changed in her.

Well at the end of TME, Briala is already willing to harm both sides to prolong the CW. Nothing changed, she'll do as much as she can for her cause.

And as for the elf that she presumaly sent to her death, I'm still not sure that one wasn't working for another player. The way she answers the questions you ask her is very suspicious. Plus she is wrong in claiming that Briala and Celene were still together after the purge.

 

It's also plain at the end of TME that they still got feelings for each other so not surprised either that it's an option in Inquisition.

[LOLandStuff]

those who kill  gaspard   know nothing about emperium or kingdoms   ,  killing gaspard is  killing Orlisiyan emprorium
i will explique : i m from the moroccan kingdom , and i think people from the UK and other kingdom  will understind what i m saying .
The  Heritage of the kingdome family  go from  the Male Big son to the Male big son   and go one ..
if the king have a daughter than a son the son becaume king even if his sister is bigger .  cause the blood   and last name go with the males  like we all know . 
If the king have only daughters , but he have a brother his brother bicaume king after his death .
If the king have only daughters , but he have a brother that have a son . when the brother became king and die, his son becaume king .
if the king only have daughters   and don"t have brothers , it"s his uncle that become king ( the brother of his father ) 
if  the king die  whith no male  left in the family . the big daughter of the king becaume queen ( because she have the last name and the blood of the royal family ) like what happening in englend now with queen elizabeth 
BUT AFTER THE DEATH OG THE QUEEN ? THE ROYALITY ENDS  end the kingdom turn to repuplique 
So in the case  of Orlais  they have a queen , but their is  a male  from the royal family and that"s why he clam the trone cause Celen took the thron even if their is a male from the royal family , after her death even if noone kill her the thron is going to him .
so killing him end the Orlisian blood line , end with the death of Celen after years ,  the Orlisian empirium fall .
making a empruim fall for  a love story betwen an elf and a empress ? seriously ? 

 

Thedas isn't real life. These rules don't apply here.

A woman of a powerful family keeps her name even after getting married if she wants.

[NaclynE]

It doesn't seem to be possible. It seems like you can only get two out of three to live and not all three to live. It seems like for Gaspard or Biala to rule Celene has to die. For Celene to rule with Briala Gaspard has to be executed.

 

So what happens to Briala when you try to reunite Briala and Celene (with the whole keepsake, thing), but tell Celene to spare Gaspard? Briala just keeps at it with her rebellion? 

 

It sounds like Celene and Briala become the first "Queens" to rule Orlias which causes some politicians heads to turn because traditionally it's always been a king and a queen and not two queens. Also post of that there turns out to be a elf and human unifacation in all of Orlias which brought a form of peace to Orlias. Gaspard was killed too.

[Amne YA]

lol

[LOLandStuff]

even if she keep  her name  her son  will not have her hame ,   and let s add  she is a lesbian so their is no son  . 

 

Her son will have her name because her name has power.

For nobility all that matters is the name if you want to be someone.