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OK, so not the most origional idea, but I've been replaying the series and didn't see an open thread abiyt this so I figured I'd share my thoughts on this.  Basically, I'm including everyone who could attend the Citadel DLC party (plus Mordin, Thane, and Legion), so Anderson and the Illusive Man have to wait for annother list.  Also, SPOILERS!

 

Mordin:

OK, so this one is mostly personal preference, but I find Mordin to be probably the most interesting and entertaining member of the crew.  His justification for the Genophage is quite convincing, and his general willingness to throw down adds quite a bit to his character.  I'm generally a big fan of likable characters doing "bad" things for what is arguable the greater good (see: Admiral Thrawn), so Mordin tops my list.  Also, he's hilarious!  My only complaint is that his death makes no sense when you think about it.  Why is there the sudden rush to cure the genophage today?  If the tower was literally "falling down" then the cure wouldn't have time to disperse, and if it was just that one bit that was blowing up then why not wait a bit, repair it, and then disperse the cure?  Plus, why is the tower falling down?  Did the Reaper damage it or something?  If it did, wouldn't it just destroy it?  Either way, I still teared up at his death so it all worked out in the end.

 

Garrus:

One of my all time favorite characters, Garrus is the ultimate bro.  I think having him go from cop, to vigilante, to soldier made him much more interesting than most of the booring human "I'm a soldier!" characters.  Plus, kudos for being a teammate in all three games.

 

Tali:

Tali's like your awesome younger sister who you wanna protect and what not.  Plus seeing her grow from frightened pilgramege-goer to Quarian Admiral was pretty neet.

 

Wrex:

On my first playthrough of ME1 I actually killed Wrex, so I didn't really get aquainted until the second time through.  He's pretty darn awesome though, and he gives a good case for why the Genophage needs to be cured.  Seeing your favorite crew members rise to positions of power always feels rewarding, and Wrex is no exception.

 

Traynor:

Normandy ensigns have a spotty history, with that guy who's name I forgot from ME1, and ensigne McSluttypants from ME2 (Seriously, was there a single alien we met that she didn't want to bang?  She's like a less competent female Kirk!).  Fortunately, Ensign Traynor is way more interesting than either of them.  I think part of this is because we (read: I) see her as being the member of the crew most simmilar to us (she likes video games, isn't terrible good at fighting, and spent most of her life going through school and working in a lab).  Seeing her react to being on the Normandy and dealing with the Reapers is always fun.  Plus: The Toothbrush of Destiny!

 

Legion:

I think what I like most about Legion is they played the AI thing straight.  Generally, most AI characters in movies and TV are trying to become "more human".  Legion doesn't bother with that, instead helping the Geth down a different path, bringing interesting ethical questions about life to the forefront.  Sure, we the player see him as an individual, but its clear that he doesn't.  Ultimately, Legion is a great example of an alien member of the crew who actually feels alien.  My only complaint is that, like Mordin, his death makes no sense.

 

Joker:

Do they ever establish why he's called Joker?  Either way, Seth Green is always great, and Joker adds some much needed levity to the crew.

 

Liara:

I generally romance Liara when I play as femshep (guess why), but I still think she's one of the more "second tied" characters.  The biggest reason for this is that most of her good content (Shadow Broker, interacting with Javik) is hidden behind paywalls, meaning I didn't play through it until much later.  Once all of that content is brought in she becomes much more fleshed out, but without it she's just kinda bland.

 

Thane:

A lot of people put him higher up on the list, but Thane never quite seemed as cool to me as he did to others.  Sure, he's dark, mysterious, and brooding, and his attempts to seek redemption by saving his son are nice, but it still never put him up near Tali and Garrus for me.  Still, a mid-tier Mass Effect character is a top-tier one anywyere else, so he's still really cool.

 

Zaeed:

Picking up Zaeed is kinda underwhelming, but once he's on the ship his war stories are pretty darn entertaining.  Plus, his attempts to rig up Shepard's appartment with explosives in the Citadel DLC are pretty awesome!

 

Grunt:

Grunt is a simple, yet lovable character.  As the one who woke him up, you're basically his parent, and seeing him grow into a leadership role with the Krogan is pretty sweet.  Apart from that, he doesn't feature all that prominently, but in his case I think less is more.

 

EDI:

Apart from the sexy robot body, I think I enjoyed EDI much more in ME2.  Having a snarky AI onboard the ship was pretty fun, but once she got a body she basically just became Data from Star Trek.  Sure, an AI learning about what it means to be human is cool and all, but it's been done to death and EDI didn't really add anything new.

 

Miranda:

OK, so on top of the Ass Effect, Miranda seemed kinda booring at first.  However, I like how her looks are explained by the genetic engineering, and how that dovetails nicely into her loyalty mission.  Seeing her try to explain away Cerberus' actions helps to keep you on the Illusive Man's side through ME2, and she's just generally fun to have around.  But seriously, the Ass Effect!

 

Jack:

Jack in ME2 isn't all that interesting.  Like everyone on the Normandy she's super powerful (zzzZZZzzz), and her main character trait is that she's super angsty and damaged.  This makes her more interesting than James and Ashley, but it still isn't much to go on.  However, once we get to ME3 she is vastly improved.  Seeing her transition into a teacher adds some good depth to her character and rounds her out nicely.

 

Javik:

I really like what Javik did to flesh out the details of the who the Protheans were.  In fiction, ancient alien races tend to be viewed as either peaceful godlike peoples, or evil destroyers.  By showing the Protheans to be just annother flawed and imperfect cycle, the universe becomes much more believable (back in ME1 I was getting ready to hear that Humans were really descendants of Protheans, so this was a nice change).  Still, Javik himself is never given much depth beyond being an angry soldier who is an a$$hole to everyone he meets.  And if I have to hear him say "In my cycle" one more time...

 

Kasumi:

Kasumi's loyalty mission is much better than Zaeed's, but beyond that she really doesn't have much character.  Maybe if she'd been given more time to shine in ME3 that would be different...

 

Jacob:

From the start, Jacob is about as yawn-worthy as Kaiden.  Fortunately, he was saved by his loyalty mission, which pitted his booring "I'm a booring responsible soldier" shtick against revalation of his dad's improproeties.  Sure, he never really stood out, but his descision to become a booring dad in ME3 seemed to fit his character nicely.

 

James:

James' best character trait is that he's less boring than Kaidan or Ashley.  Like them, his only personallity comes from "being a soldier", but at least he fully embraces the gung-ho sillyness making his interactions much more bearable.  Still, it feels like they only included him because Shepard needed annother squadmate in the first few missions.

 

Samara:

I get that living by a code is nice, but if it makes you do stupid things like shoot yourself in the head it might be time to reconsider.  Sure, the idea of Samara is pretty cool, but once you start interacting with her it wears out fast.  Maybe she'd have been better as a background character who never actually joins your crew?

 

Cortez:

A bunch of people like Cortez, but I don't really see it.  Sure, its nice to have a gay character who actually talks about it, but that still doesn't make him interesting.  It seems like every time I talk to him, its just helping him deal with his own issues.  Having your personallity built around "I'm sad about my dead husband" isn't a lot to go on.

 

Kaidan:

Kinda booring.  I killed him in my first ME1 playthrough because, unlike Ashley, he lacked certain upper-body "assets".  After I realized Ashley was an annoying space-racist, I saved him on my second time through.  Still, being less annoying than Ashley is faint praise...

 

Ashley:

I banged her my first time through ME1 and it was a terrible descision.  She's annoying, whiney, and for some reason trusts Udina in ME3.  I think her biggest problem is that she's never really given much of a personality beyond "being a soldier", which is basically true for everyone in the Mass Effect Universe.  Maybe if they'd given her some sort of "loyalty mission" in ME2 they could have fixed this (see: Jacob), but I kinda doubt it.

 

Anyways, that's my list.  Any thoughts?  How would you rank them?


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(Love is here)

 

1) Miranda

 

2) Mordin

 

3) Javik

 

(Like is here)

 

4) Thane

 

5) Legion (ME3 under consideration)

 

6) James

 

7) Zaeed

 

8) Samara

 

9) Jacob

 

(Tolerate is here)

 

10) Grunt

 

11) Wrex

 

12) Kaidan

 

13) Kasumi

 

(Dislike is here)

 

14) Garrus

 

15) Jack

 

(Despise is here)

 

16) EDI

 

17) Liara

 

18) Tali

 

19) Ashley

 

20) Morinth



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1-20: Wrex. 

 

*Honorable Mention goes to The Dark Knight of Omega AKA Garrus Vakarian*



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 It gets a bit fluid for me after #3 but nonetheless...

 

1.) Jack

2.) Mordin

3.) Zaeed

4.) EDI

5.) Javik

6.) Legion

7.) Wrex

8.) Garrus

9.) James

10.) Kaidan

11.) Miranda

12.) Kasumi

13.) Grunt

14.) Ashley

15.) Thane

16.) Tali

[--- dislike begins here ---]

17.) Jacob

[--- despise begins here ---]

18.) Samara

19.) Liara

 

Unranked: Morinth, Anderson, Nyreen, Aria, Kenson.



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Wrex>Kaidan>Tali>Mordin>Jack>Grunt>Garrus>Samara>Kasumi=Liara=Thane=Legion=Miranda=EDI=Joker>Zaeed=Cortez=Traynor=James=Jacob=Ashley>Javik

 

more love>

Wrex : Do I need to list it out? A warrior-turned-merc working for the Shadow Broker turned a war hero turned the King of Tuchanka. I would be happy if Mass Effect 4 is just about Wrex.

Kaidan : Okay, I'm biased. He's more a flesh out character when romanced anyway. Exposed to eezo in utero, got lucky with the special biotic lottery (while several million Singaporean kids die.. okay, I'm not migrating there anyway), taken away from his family as a kid, killed a Turian commander at 17, one of the most powerful L2 biotics around, fall in love with a Spectre only to watch her die, became a bamf renegade Commando, became a bamf Major with his own biotic division in the Alliance, became a bamf Spectre.. see where this is going. He's like a harmless boring guy but dang, when he's pissed off. Cryo/Biotic explosions.

Tali : Dang.. would people stop baby her like she's precious glass and see what a badass babe she is. While on pilgrimage, she found proof from a disabled geth that Saren planned the attack on Eden Prime, targeted by assassins, nearly died from the said assassins and her actions made Shepard a Spectre and she could handle her own with a shotgun. And she's an Admiral of the Migrant Fleet. BAMF!

Mordin : Who wouldn't love someone who could make a catchy song about cellular division and amino acids? I wonder he have a song on DNA replication or Ornithine cycle. My pre-clinical life would be sooo much easier.

Jack : She used to be my least favourite character in ME2 until my C/SS playthrough. Then I imagine if Adept FemShep was kidnapped by the batarians as a kid and sold to Cerberus to be experimented. Then I'm starting to see Shepard and Jack sharing this same tragic childhood and how different it would be if Shepard choose differently. Would she become exactly like Jack? Would Jack ended up like Shepard? And I would love to see her interacted with Gillian Grayson. 

Grunt : He's like Shepard in ME2. Like literally... "I've just woke up and we're ready to kill" thing. But what endearing was the fact that he had a lot of trouble finding his roots and Shepard helped him and kill that tresher maw. Of course, an Akuze veteran got it all under control.

Garrus : A military trained C-Sec officer turned renegade mercenary group leader turned batman turned reaper adviser turned giant gun maintenance officer... I do like him, but not as much as I wanted to. yes, sure, he do have sexy voice... but he does not rock my boat. But a great in-game brother. I never had a brother so he's pretty close.

Samara : At times I felt that she was who Liara should have been in ME1. We all need a badass Asari. She have it rough too. She hadthree Ardat-Yakshi daughters. Sacrificing her own identity and life and family for the code to chase her psycho-killer daughter for several hundred of years. She's the only mother figure in the series who like Than also wanted what is best for her children. Even if she have to kill them or kill herself over them.

 

like in equal term

Kasumi : Who doesn't love a Shinobi. (Not you Ham Kai Leng). Besides, you get great crew gossip from her like who is pregnant and stuff...

Liara : She is an interesting case of a civilian scientist who became a biotic commando under Shepard's tutelage. She is a great character with great character growth with several comics and one DLC dedicated for her but her characterization has been erratic. From a starstruck prothean researcher to a bitter information broker and then an even more reserved shadow broker. But I don't particularly like how she was the default character you're supposed to romance with... like the game is trying to guilt you into romancing her whenever she said "Just... friends" on repeat.

Thane : He's really badass in ME Foundation. I love that he fell in love with Irikah when she tried to stop an assassination. Then his struggle with his work and his family life and how he struggled with fatherhood and the lost of his wife. I do wish he have a better resolution though.

Legion : From a collective geth consensus to a fully realized AI with his own personality. His story seemed to be shortened to fill in the Rannoch arc. I wish there was a proper cutscene with EDI and Legion having a discussion on the Normandy, since EDI do influence Legion's behaviour in a lot of manner.

Miranda : From a hostile pro-humanity Cerberus operative to a woman desperate to save her sister. She is a complex character but her design was clearly intended as a fanservice (almost all female character have the same body... Miranda isn't a special case anyway). I wish there was an option to cancel the male gaze thing. But she is great as Shepard's close friend. Even better with two of them being the space divas.

EDI : I love EDI but after seeing Tricia Helfer again on Battlestar Galactica... that woman could play several hundred different version of herself as a cylon. EDI is just a tiny fraction of that AI goddess. Besides, how sure are you that EDI isn't a Cylon?

Joker : I have a love and hate issue with the guy. I do love Seth Green as Oz. He's not funny but I like that he's sarcastic. Its sure interesting to see if he's starting to have hallucination of EDI after Destroy ending. 

 

mehness in equal term

Zaeed : Hello, Canderous. Still at it, are we? I do enjoy his banter. He is adorable at the arcade. I wish there were more of him though.

Cortez : Can someone please give this guy his Trident back. Please.

Traynor : I prefer her over Kelly any day. But sometimes I wish the game could give me more options to steer romantic optional character to somebody else. She and Diana Allers seems to talk a lot more with each other than just Shepard alone. They're both obviously lonely women in need of attention. Why can't they be together?

James : He's Shepard fanboy with a lot of issues. And a male replacement for Kaidan and Soldier replacement for Ashley. The movie, the comic did help smooth out his backstory but.. he's a filler character.
Jacob : How come he's far more badass in the mobile game and in the comic.. and a complete Cerberus wuss... the auto-flirting isn't helping too

Ashley : I do think her ME1's concerns was legitimate. She's not racist per se. She did volunteer to be with the Salarians. And I actually like the woman. She was okay about being sacrificed to the nuclear too. Bless her. But I'm sorry, Ash. That you turned into.... ashes. 

 

It could have been better for us

Javik : There's a reason why he's optional. I like him in my first playthrough... then I like him even lesser and lesser and lesser. He's plain mean to everyone for no reason at all and plain mean to Liara. But he does redeem himself when you get to know him better. And he's kinda have that sleazy uncle "I have my four eyes on you..." vibe around him when he's not angsty...


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Top Tier:
Liara T’soni

Garrus Vakarian 

 

 

Great Tier

Urdnot Wrex

Miranda Lawson

Mordin Solus

Samara

Javik

Legion

 

 

Good Tier:

Urdnot Grunt

James Vega

Kaidan Alenko

Thane Krios

Joker

Zaeed Massani

Talizorah Vas Normandy

Samantha Traynor

Jack

 

 

Okay Tier:

EDI

Kelly Chambers

Steve Cortez

 

I couldn’t care less tier:

Ashley Williams(mainly because of ME3, because I like her in ME1)

Kasumi Goto

Jacob Taylor
 

I have no idea tier:

Morinth

That being said, I don't really hate any of the squadmates. There are few that don't do nothing for me like Jacob  (If I'm going to kill someone on the suicide mission, he usually makes the casualty list) but I don't dislike him.  

 



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1.) Tali
2.) Jack
3.) Garrus
4.) Mordin
5.) Liara
6.) Wrex
7.) Kaidan
8.) James
9.) Grunt
10.) Javik
11.) Thane
12.) Kasumi
13.) Jacob
14.) Samara
15.) Zaeed
16.) Ashley
17.) EDI
18.) Legion
19.) Miranda


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Joker- You can ask Joker how got his nickname in ME1. He's a nice stabilising element to the crew, especially since he is a consistent presence. Funny and likeable, added to by his VA

 

Kaidan- Kaidan needs some love, I don't find him boring, and unlike Ashley I can have an in-game conversation with him and not end it frustrating. His citadel DLC visit emphasises how it's nice to have a normal fella on the crew.

 

Wrex- I just spent the last week or so replaying the trilogy and I have to say I remember liking him, but now I can't see why. In ME1, like Garrus and Tali, I didn't feel much of a connection, but they at least took their positive aspects from ME1 and became awesome in ME2. Wrex on the other hand didn't have much beyond a cameo. (Maybe he will change my mind yet, I am litterally just about to start the meeting in ME3 between the Salarian/Krogan/Turian.

 

EDI- Like many I rolled my eyes at the body and barely used her, but after replaying I see her presence is important for the theme of synthesis.

 

That's all I will comment on, have an arbitrary list:

 

Great:

 

Liara
Tali
Mordin

Legion

Garrus

Samara

EDI

Joker

Traynor

 

Good:

 

Kaidan

Miranda

Kasumi

Zaeed

Thane

James

Javik

 

Meh:

 

Wrex

Jack

Ashley

Grunt

Jacob

Morinth



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My ranking of the characters changed a great deal between ME2 and ME3. This was how I felt about the characters in my last playthrough of the trilogy.

 

Like

Miranda: (ME2) Competent and professional officer who I could rely on to do the work. Only thing I didn't like was the visualization of her character

 

Zaeed:  the loyalty mission was a bit ropy, but I really enjoyed talking with him on the ship. The VA was excellent in making him work for me. Nothing to say about how ME3 dealt with him, but the Citadel DLC made up for that

 

Wrex: Grew on me through time. Didn't like him in earlier play throughs, but I warmed to him the more I interacted with the character. The VA also helped immensely

 

Kasumi: In ME2 I felt she was the most natural feeling human relationship for me. Would have been my choice of LI if available.

 

Mordin: Simply the best written character in my opinion

 

Jack (ME2) Reminds me of someone very dear to me who had an abusive childhood and hid her pain by building walls. I REALLY did not like how her personality shifted in the brief time between ME2 and ME3. Victims of abuse do not heal that quickly, in my experience and she was unrecognizable to me in ME3.

 

Legion One of the few AI characters in Sci-Fi I can recall working for me

 

Traynor: The only ME3 character I felt any positive connection to

 

Kelly: Like Jack she reminds me of someone I know in R/L who is dear to me

 

 

Tolerate

Garrus: Had some of the best lines in the series, but I never got to grips with the amount of fan servicing. The more he was promoted to being my "best bro" the more I would recoil from him. Used to really dislike him for that reason, but I've mellowed

 

Grunt: Didn't really connect with him until Citadel DLC made me laugh so hard I hurt my ribs

 

Liara: Got more of a connection to her simply because some of my fan fiction friends felt such strong connections to her. My positive opinion of her is more informed by their work than by the game. Suffered from the same problems as Garrus, imo

 

Vega: Having a body builder in the family, and owning a gym that caters for this type of person in the past make me project some R/L connections that the character writing and VA didn't really merit

 

Mild Dislike

Thane: Never bonded with this character, never used him in game. Scores some points through the VA, but I could get through games without noticing him at all.

 

joker: Used to like this character in ME2 but the ME3 storyline was a total turn off for me on far too many levels

 

Javik: On first couple of playthroughs of the DLC I really enjoyed the trolling, but it wore thin too quickly for me and I wouldn't miss throwing him out the airlock

 

Strong dislike

Jacob: Bland and boring and some elements of the writing felt very off for me

 

Kaiden: Bored me and I always killed him on Virmire in every play through I ever made of ME1

 

Ashley: Would have gladly killed her off in Virmire also.

 

Tali: Never connected with her in ME1 and her presence really annoyed me in ME2 and ME3.

 

EDI: Like her more as a hologram, the decision to place her into a body was one of the things I really did not like about ME3

 

Steve: Like Jacob and Kaiden, this guy bored me to distraction.

 

Samara: Used to like this character, but when I returned to ME after a couple of years out she really did not work for me

 

Special mention on the Hate scale

Ken Donnelly: This is due to the VA's atrocious attempt at a Scottish accent. I simply could not listen to this guy without cringing 

 

No Comment

Morinth: Never used this character in any playthrough

 



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Not in order of Liking but going from ME1-3 those that keep showing up will only be motioned once.

ME1

Kaidin Alenko-Seems like an ok guy but I like Ash's character growth better and between being a biotic and having Liara I don't need another biotic plus Tali/Garus  do tech better...

 

Tali'Zorah vas Normandy-Like others have mentioned she is the little sister you always wanted and she really comes into her own going from a frightened kid alone in a vast universe into a powerful and respected Admiral in the Quarian fleet. Side note her loyalty mission cuts deep and comforting her after the death of her father was handled much better then for Liara and Benezia.

 

Liara T'Soni-My love interest every time I like how in ME1 she goes from shy and introverted to the powerful shadow broker and commando in ME3. When I first saw her in ME2 really helped to make the character real as she truly acts hurt where as Garus is glad to see you and Tali is shocked, Liara's emotions feel more real. Plus I really want 'Marriage, Old age (Headcannon that Shepard lives an Asari long life due to Cerberus implants), and a lot of little blue children.' My favorite character bar none.

 

Garrus Vakarian-A true brother in arms will always give it to you straight and he also has a fair bit of growth going from get the bad guy at any cost to it is better to do it by the book. Plus he owes me a drink on the beach (Maybe at Tali's beach house on Rannoch?) I never romanced him and wish him an Tali well.

 

Ashly Williams-Goes from being undervalued because of her grandfather to Humanity second specter. She really does grow in ways I didn't imagine her initial position on aliens is fair shaped by the legacy of her grandfather but she learns from it even going so far as to see Tali as a sister. I wish her and Vega well.

 

Urdnot Wrex-This guy is awesome to go from nearly killing each other over the genophage cure to fighting side by side to cure it was great. I am proud to be a part of the King of the Krogan's Krant.

 

ME2

Kasumi Goto-Fun mission and great personality plus she always has the scope on the rest of the crew. I hope she finds someone special and stops living in the memories of her dead lover.

 

Urdnot Grunt-Of all the things I never expected getting a Krogan son was one of them... Still this guy is a blast and is a solid fighter along with Zaeed and Garus to keep the fire off an adept Shepard.

 

Thane Krios-A killer with a regrets he deserved better then to die on the citadel at the hands of Mr. Leng sorry that I couldn't save you from that Thane may you find comfort in the afterlife of your gods.

 

Jack-A tortured soul and another mirror of what you could have been... If I remember Cerberus wanted to put you into the Teltin Facility alongside Jack (if you are a biotic) but you got lucky and avoided her fate. I like the fact that she joined up with the Ascension project to watch over the biotic kids there. Miranda/Jack romance sounds good to me...

 

Miranda Lawson-The perfect woman genetically... but her life has been rough she was loathed by her father seeing her as an experiment not a person and finally when she learned what his plans were for her sister she fled and gave up everything to save her sister. I wish that she finds some happiness perhaps with Jack...

 

Legion-Another amazing character like most of the ME2 squad Legion is sent out to learn about the reapers and Shepard and in the end learns that he can trust organics enough to allow for peace between the Geth and Quarians letting them return home. Too bad he had to die to let it happen...

 

Zaeed Massani-I admit first playthrough didn't like Zaeed but the second time around he grew on me a no nonsense merc with a desire for vengeance and then there is the fun of the Citadel DLC that makes him perfect.

 

Samara-A holy warrior with a ridged code she is everything you expect from the Asari: Reagal, Sexy and Lethal. She is a powerful ally with a tragic past and her life is focused around dealing with monsters of her own doing. I like her a lot and wish her and Falare the best.

 

Morinth-Nope you die every time I like you mother more and you are way too psyco and I think Liara would kill me if I allowed an AY anywhere near me.

 

Mordin Solus-Funny guy didn't see the ground much on missions but has an interesting change in view point on the genophage I wished you could have been able to run some tests on seashells.

 

Jacob Taylor-Ok I won't kill you off but man are you boring you only leave the Normandy once I get it to pick up Zaeed, your loyalty mission and to help shoot things on the Suicide mission that is it buddy.

 

ME3

Javik-He is ok I used to take him on every mission on my first play through he was decent but now he stays on the ship still funny and 'humanizes' the otherwise almighty Protheans.

 

James Vega-And we have come full circle just as Anderson was your mentor now you must do the same for another. James has a story similar to the Sole Survivor background for Shepard and is struggling to cope with that interesting guy and a good squad mate he and Liara are my default squad in ME3. Have fun with Ash...

 

EDI-Ok I do like that the Voice of the Normandy got a body she is a good tech specialist that is not as anti geth as Tali is, A decent squad mate and she helped to keep the Normandy away from Cerberus (Jeff would be proud of how she did it too.)



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Never mind



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I'm disappointed in you OP. "GrandAdmiralThrawn" has no appreciation for Kasumi's character, given the plethora of art and other clues evidenced in her room? For shame. :P

 

In order (slashes indicate equivalence with next character on list)-

 

Love:

Miranda/ - Badass, pragmatic, extraordinary, but with a softer side for intimate moments. A true match for Shepard. Sucker for the accent.

Kasumi - Fun, quirky, insanely insightful, among the greatest character potential (sadly unused and then utterly stomped, set on fire and pissed on in ME3). Love the voice, the specials powers, everything.

Javik - all the trolling is just too much fun. You past perceptions get subverted so hard, it's hilarious. I was deadset against the concept of this character before the game came out. The writing for Javik made do a complete 180 on the idea.

Samara - stoic, powerful, regal, iron-clad control but still with a hint of sensuousness. I admire the rigid-code adhering warrior monk archetypes even though everything about me is totally at odds with it. I also like how she's the only one to bring something new (or anything, really) to the table in terms of asari culture.

Mordin/ - He Sherlock scans things for fun, guns down troublemakes without mercy and sings Gilbert and Sullivan. What's not to love?

Legion - provides the most interesting perspective in the game until Javik (and even then, it's probably a tie). Is also technically your biggest ally since the geth achieve consensus and their consensus is they should help you fight the Reapers. At least until ME3 fucked it up.

 

Like:

Ashley/ - Apart from the forced Horizon shenanigans I'm cool with Ashley. Canon ME1 romance.

Liara - I actually liked her ME1 persona better. The shift in ME2 came out of nowhere. She's still pleasant enough though.

Garrus/ - my protege/bro.

Tali - I like the concept of her species.

Joker/ - self-explanatory I think

EDI - her character arc is interesting to follow. She's extremely helpful and probably one of your biggest assets. I found myself rooting for her to grow since even before her unshackling.

Wrex - excellent squadmate in ME1, characterization really took from Virmire onwards. The krogan predicament can and has spawned endless discussion

Vega - surprisingly well-developed and insightful. He looks like a meathead but he's got things to say.

Grunt - his origin brings up interesting questions to explore. My only regret is that he and Miranda didn't have a conversation about their similar predicaments.

Thane - badass spiritual assassin, also introducing a new race with an interesting ability (and again, predicament). Despite having all awsome qualities on paper though, even I'm surprised he's not higher up on the list.

Kelly/ - she's just nice. In a world populated by all sorts of badasses and weird people with or without a chip on their shoulder, a normal, upbeat girl was surprisingly refreshing and still interesting (unlike Jacob who is specifically designed as an everyman and is utterly bland)

Traynor - same as above. Bonus points for accent and usefulness, negative points for some stuff in Citadel (she stands you up then comandeers your hottub- especially bad if you're a male)

Cortez - decent guy, no complaints

Rest of non-squad crew (Ken/Gabby, Chalkwas etc) - I like the banter between the engineers (though yeah the accents are atrocious. Ken may be bad/exaggerated but at least it's consistent. Gabby's always breaks). Chalkwas is an old friend, always nice to share a drink with her.

 

Meh:

Jack - Never did much for me. I feel for her predicament but it makes zero sense why she gets recruited on a Cerberus ship, for a Cerberus mission when Cerberus for her is literally the Devil Nazi Sith Brigade. ME3 only makes it worse as it now makes negative sense that someone with her past would land a teaching job, even with Shep vouching for her.

Zaeed - Shepard if he were older, not as good at leading and a merc. He's appropriately badass, but like Thane, he just doesn't pop like I'd think he would.

Morinth - never recruited her, I think she could've been more interesting but being the lesser half of Samara meant she got little to no development and gave me no incentive to recruit her over her mother who already swore herself to my command and is 100% more trustworthy.

Jacob - utterly bland. Like I said, I think he was designed to be a "regular guy" to show Cerberus' human side (i.e. it's just made of regular guys). Unfortunately this made him completely forgettable. I think most people who have strong feelings for him are those he pisses off. Either people who romanced him, or like in my case, a mild-medium annoyance at Kasumi's crush on him.

 

Non-character

Kaidan (always Virmired)- found him boring in ME1, always nuked him so he doesn't even really exist for me.

 

No real dislikes.


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Love
Kaidan: Stand-up guy, high moral standards, loyal, trusted, caring, reasonable
Tali: Sweet gal, my little sis
Garrus: My bro when it's not calibration 24/7 (as in ME2)
 
Like
Mordin: Funny guy, liked how he interacted with me in ME2, liked how he reconsidered what he had done
Jack: Tough on the outside, soft on the inside when you care enough about her
James: At first I thought him weird, and sassy, but I actually grew to like him

Joker: Joker is Joker :D

Kasumi: Great design, lovely personality, I always enjoyed listening to what she had to say

EDI: I simply must like her for how she tries to tell jokes...

Samantha: Quirky, funny, charming person (need to romance her at some point)

 

OK
Legion: He provides an interesting point of view in ME2
Liara: She annoys me at times, but she's sweet in general
Thane: Interesting insight in drell culture, and his story was quite nice, but I never fully connected to him
Wrex: I can't deal with the krogan mentality of fighting as their purpose, but was impressed what his goals were in ME2
Grunt: see above, minus the goals
Samara: Don't like the living by the code thing, but she's allright in my book (as long as I don't violate it, eh)
Jacob: He's... OK! A bit bland, but maybe it's because we don't know too much about him
Miranda: She's a tough one. I hated her at first (Cerberus B*tch), but she actually showed me another side of her. But I can't fully like her
 
Dislike
Ashley: Her dislike of aliens in ME1 never sat well with me, I will always sacrifice her on Virmire
Kelly: She'd just love to shag the whole alien crew
 
Don't care that much
Zaeed: he doesn't provide anything that keeps me slightly interested in his character, though the Citadel content in ME3 with him was rather nice

 

Didn't spend enough time with Javik yet to really put him anywhere.


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Love

1.) Miranda (Favourite character despite the horrid loyalty mission rehash in ME3 at expense of needed Cerberus focus)

2.) Kasumi (It's a shame she was DLC(ergo little content in ME3) as i thought the character concept was one of the coolest)

3.) Jack A character that grew on me. Very good content in ME3 for pargaoned Jack.

4.) Javik Finally meet a Prothean and he's an extremely cool one. Love his confrontational vengeful attitude. Real pity he was DLC.

 

Like

5.) Mordin Amazing meeting the pragmatic scientist in ME2. The sudden switch to being a genophage opponent in ME3 didn't feel smooth but i can't say his storyline wasn't epic.

6.) Garrus: 3 games of development did make him onto the ideal personification of a sidekick moulded by Shepard.

7.) Grunt: Crazy krogan tankbred was a blast.

8.) Wrex: Fun character who's journey to potential krogan leader was one of the very successful transitions imo.

9.) Legion: After the geth characterisation in ME1 the introduction of the sympathetic geth was a well executed idea.

 

Okish

10.) Samara. (Shiala would have been my pick of Asari's for a squad space but meeting a justicar was interesting.

11.) Tali. Reasonable character. Think she should have been an NPC in ME3.

12.) Thane. Drell, assassin sounded good on paper, the repentent angle grated on me slightly though.

13.) EDI. Think she should have stayed ship bound AI. Didn't think transition to avatar form was handled well, but maybe there's an element of still yearning for Miranda to have been given a spot on the crew.

13.) Liara. Felt she came across badly in ME3 but despite can't say i disliked her but neither was i ever particularly fond of her(LOTSB was probably where she came across best)

14.) Kaidan: Felt he was a weak character that bloomed slightly in ME3

15.) Ashley: Felt she went on the opposite journey to Kaidan.

 

 

Dislike

17.) Jacob, hard to call his blanditude dislikeable. The whole ME3 cheater angle shoves him in this category.

18.) Zaeed. Despite liking his voice actor, not a fan of Zaeed's character

19) Morinth. That a non-character comes above James says more about my opinion of James

20.) Vega..ZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz



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Alright, here goes:

 

Tier 1: Love.

1: Miranda, complex character, not a typical everyday heroine overflowing with good traits and destined to be your best friend forever. On the one hand a cold, calculated, results at all costs kinda person, but has deep surpressed feelings underneath. She is afraid to let them out out of fear of losing people she cares about. It's what makes her romance with Shepard a joy, because she doesn't fall for him directly; he has to convince her a little to let down her defences. She's also a very useful squadmate and one of the few women in the Mass Effect universe without a lesbian haircut.

 

2: Kasumi, a unique character in that she's about the only one that has a lighthearted, carefree attitude, between all those serious, brooding grunts. I love her loyalty mission and the infiltration soundtrack. I can listen to that for minutes while staring through the windows at the city in the distance. Very zen.

 

3: Mordin, I love his rapid comedy routines, he's also an interesting character because like Miranda he does the things that have to be done, but also shows emotions, like when he starts to research species' visions of the afterlife after his work on the genophage. I also like his pragmatism: 'lots of ways to help people, sometimes heal patiens, sometimes execute bad people.'

 

4: Grunt, not much to say, I just love his bloody mindedness and his 'Heh! Heh! Heh!'

 

Tier 2: Like you a lot.

Thane. I like Drell, they're beautiful reptile men. I also like Thane for his calm politeness and his poetic phrases: 'Amonkira be praised', makes for a very elegant creature.

 

Ashley. She's been given a lot of backstory in ME1 and a full, consistant character. She's not always the nicest person around but I like her determination and strength.

 

Kaidan. Not as developed and interesting as Ashley, but he's a calm, dependable and friendly guy, enough for me to like him.

 

Legion. Provides interesting viewpoints on the history of the Geth. In many other games or series the Geth would have been like space orcs who are just evil and that's the end of it. Legion proves that Mass Effect is different and that is one of the reasons why I like this series.

 

James. Dependable, loyal, capable guy, like Kaidan, but more macho.

 

Tier 3: Like you a little.

 

Zaeed. He's kinda amusing as a sort of white African mercenary guy. Would have been fun if his standard weapon would have been a flamethrower.

 

Liara. She's kinda charming as the Shepard worshipping mentally 15 year old in ME1. Later she becomes more boring...

 

Samara. Like an alien superhero vigilante. That's okay...

 

Jacob. He starts out friendly alright, but after that it goes down a little. He should try to end conversations a little less bluntly. When I romance him as female Shepard I have him killed in the following suicide mission so he can't cheat on me in 3.

 

EDI. It's fun to have a robot squadmate and her relationship with Joker is amusing, but what's with the hair? It's like she's wearing the helmet of man-at-arms from He-Man.

 

Tier 4: Whatever.

 

Tali. Anti-robot specialist for as long as Legion is unavailable. I usually kill off her species and let her drop herself off a cliff for some heavy drama.

 

Wrex. Don't care about him. I let Ashley shoot him so that Mordin may continue to live in 3.

 

Garrus. I was gonna put him in the hatred category but I realised that wouldn't be fair. I don't hate him, I hate his popularity. I can't stand it that he's again a squadmate in 3 and also present at Shepards funeral ceremony when there's 8 or 9 ME2 characters that I would rather have there. So I make sure he never survives the suicide mission.

 

Tier 5: Hatred!

 

Javik: oh! oh! A Prothean! What could it be? Their most brillant scientist? Their wisest philosopher?... No, it's the most pompous ****** in the universe! And ugly too! I just leave him in the fridge...

 

Jack: loud, obnoxious, rude, immature brat. AND UGLY! Yes I know she had a difficult childhood, but that doesn't mean I have to like it. In my playthoughs she dies 80% of the time in the suicide mission. The other 20% is for me to kill her myself in Cronos station. With a headshot using a Black Widow.



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My List:

 

Love (my favourite squadmates):
1. Miranda (always my LI, finally someone who doesn't hero worship Shepard, I'm still pissed that she got shafted in 3)

2. Garrus (best bro in any game ever)

3. Thane

4. Grunt

5. Mordin (great character development, his sacrifice was very sad)

 

Really Like (still very good characters):

1. Wrex

2. Legion

3. Samara

4. Javik (wish he would contribute to the main plot more)

5. Tali (overrated but still a good sis to my Shep)

 

Don't care for (meh):

1. Zaeed

2. Kaidan

3. Ashley (liked her in 1 got wasted in 2-3)

4. Jack

 

Really Hate (waste of resources):

1. Sexbot aka EDI (was great as a hologram but as a romance for Joker and sexbot? hell no)

2. Liara (overrated as hell, was boring in 1, annoying in 2 and insufferable in 3, the definition of a writer's pet)

3. Jacob (who?)

5. James Vega (pointless, can I have my bro Grunt back?)

6. Kasumi

7. Cortez & Traynor (even more pointless)



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^ Why the hate for Kasumi if one may ask?



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Love...
1. Liara
2. Mordin
3. Samara
4. Grunt
5. Kasumi
6. Wrex
7. Zaeed
8. Kelly

Like...
9. Legion
10.EDI
11.Chakwas
12.Morinth
13.Jack
14.James
15.Garrus

OK...
16.Steve
17.Thane
18.Miranda
19.Jacob
20.Kaidan

Not really a fan of...
21.Ashley
22.Joker
23.Samantha
24.Tali

Doesn't exist in my universe...
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^ Why the hate for Kasumi if one may ask?

just thought she was a pointless and boring character, don't see her purpose

I also wasn't a fan of her Keji obsession



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just thought she was a pointless and boring character, don't see her purpose

Blasphemy!
 

I also wasn't a fan of her Keji obsession

No one is. But ME3 ruins lives after all...



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I'm with john_sheparrd. I don't see what's interesting or worthwhile about Kasumi. 

 

There's really nothing there IMO. I think we could have had someone a lot better than a thief on the ship.



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I'm with john_sheparrd. I don't see what's interesting or worthwhile about Kasumi. 

 

There's really nothing there IMO. I think we could have had someone a lot better than a thief on the ship.

Bah. I renounce you, false god.

 

Kasumi's potential is one of the highest of any squadmate, especially given she's DLC. She's fun without being cheesy, she's mysterious without being undeveloped and she has the best (or at least the most entertaining) powers in the series. She may be classed as a thief by virtue of her stealing things but she's actually a goddamn ninja Robin Hood.

 

Forget the complete shitpile that is her appearance in ME3. She was ruined worse than Miranda and even Morinth the banshee got a bigger break as you're free to imagine her doing whatever you want before Earth. But go back to ME2. Kasumi is the only squadmate I instantly feel a connection to. Her simple click to talk observations are more interesting than half the full squad dialogue wheel convos in ME2. She provides one of the only two (three with Citadel I suppose) missions where my infiltrator can live up to his name. And until ME3 stomped it into the ground, shit on it, lit it on fire and pissed out the remains she felt like my Shepard's right hand, a close friend and yes, even potential romantic interest. Though I didn't acknowledge it at the time, I would very much take Kasumi as my LI, maybe even over Miranda.


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Why was she ruined in ME3? I thought she was as awesome as in ME2.



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Yeah I think Kasumi could be the protagonist of her own thief game, going into buildings, hack security systems and steal stuff. Kinda like the Catwoman DLC in Arkham City, but in the ME universe. (but then I think several ME characters are good enough to have their own games. Thane is another one...)


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Why was she ruined in ME3? I thought she was as awesome as in ME2.

Because most of what I praised her for is gone, and Bioware took precisely one note from her character and hammered it till it broke the whole damn orchestra. Since I've ranted about this recently, I'll just copy that post:

 

-Kasumi was the only squadmate to just outright refuse to join you. Not "I'm busy doing something else" or "I could be of better use elsewhere" just straight up "I don't want to." Even Zaeed the amoral mercenary with the same DLC status as her had better reasons and reactions.

-never mind romance potential, the aforementioned refusal coupled with the way the lines were delivered makes it sound like she actually resents Shepard for ME2. It's the opposite of Liara. Her you can't get rid of. Kasumi you can't be friends with.

-the damnable graybox. ~2 years later and she still can't get over her dead boyfriend to the point where if you kept it she would rather spend her last days plugged into it as opposed to doing anything useful. And even if you destroy it the epilogue slide is still her alone staring at it. Admittedly what she's holding doesn't look like the graybox we saw in ME2 but the tone of the image is anything but moving on. The story is literally unwinnable for her.

-the synthesis slide. I joke about wanting to vomit at the thought of synthesis. That slide actually makes me reach for the Pepto Bismol.

 

Even in Citadel, the fanservice DLC, every character gets some nice quality time with Shepard and at the party. Kasumi on the other hand seems incapable of being a real person and is reduced to pop-up and underwear fetish jokes. I'm probably one of the most politically incorrect people I know but damn, that's racist. They might as well have had Jacob eating fried chicken.