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Just wanted to know what teammember you guys consider to be 2nd in command on the normandy. And perhaps reason why...

was he/she the one you allways had in team, most loved, most badass, funnies lines etc.

 

Played ME2 and 3, and Garrus has been my 2nd in command through both games, noone came close.

Badass, funny and brother-in.arms.



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Ashley, because she is the second highest ranking officer about the Normandy in Mass Effect 3.

 

The aliens are just passengers and not in the Alliance chain of command. 



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Ashley, because she is the second highest ranking officer about the Normandy in Mass Effect 3.

 

 

true, but only if you recruit her.

personally i find her a bit annoying, not saying i don't like her on missions etc, but the cutscenes she simply sobs to much for me+ i don't know why she has to look like a damn model. She lacks the grit to be a marine imho


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Miranda. She's the only squadmate ever actually acknowledged as the executive officer in the entire trilogy.


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what YOU consider... :D

regulations don't count


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Ashley, because she is the second highest ranking officer about the Normandy in Mass Effect 3.

 

The aliens are just passengers and not in the Alliance chain of command. 

 

If that's the case, then Shepard isn't in the alliance chain of command either, especially in ME2.

 

Plus, why would Ashley, a ground pounder, be fit for a naval command? 


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In ME1, the Executive Officer (First mate in everyday vernacular) is Pressly.

 

In ME2, Miranda is the Executive Officer through and through, and she proves it.

 

In ME3, my ship has no Executive Officer. Joker functions as the de facto, but it's left open officially until Miranda can reclaim the position. Despite what the alliance says, the Normandy is not an alliance vessel, and I really wish the game could let you voice that opinion.


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ME1:  XO Pressly, he is the only other officer, and though while a Spectre, I usually have my Shepards respect the chain of Command.

 

ME2:  Miranda, not only because she claims the spot, but because she has leadership experience and know Cerberus and their protocols.  As nice as everyone on the SR2 is, they are all still Cerberus, and Miranda is probably the best at understanding and leading them.

 

ME3:  Wasn't really faithful enough in anyone's ability to make them XO.  It kinda was wash between EDI and Joker, but I guess I'd go with EDI.  She quite literally is the Normandy (so perhaps that makes Shepard the 2nd in command).



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Gee.... Let me think......

 

 

Oh yeah, this guy-

 

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 i don't know why she has to look like a damn model. She lacks the grit to be a marine imho

 

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This woman is both a Marine and a model:

 

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Ashley, because she is the second highest ranking officer about the Normandy in Mass Effect 3.

 

The aliens are just passengers and not in the Alliance chain of command. 

Yeah, pretty much.



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This woman is both a Marine and a model

 

Don't want to rain on your parade here... but she's not entirely what you think she is.

 

I can appreciate the point, but there are better people to use than her. 

 

And yes, the military will keep people like that out of certain zones for reasons. I've enough experience with AG and PR to know that someone wouldn't want that sort of stuff getting out. 

 

Like the former Ms. New York who was Air Force 2nd Lieutenant. She was used as a PR tool more than an Officer.



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ME1 Pressley

 

ME2 Garrus because Miranda is a Cerby cheerleader and I don't trust her. Yet.

 

ME3 Garrus. The Normandy is a Spectre's ship. Shepards ship. The Alliance can suck it, because Shepard stole it fair and square from TIM although he allows the Alliance to 'study' it, at the end of the day it's Shepards ship.

 

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ME1: Pressly

ME2: Miranda

ME3: Well if I had the choice, it would be Kaidan. He's got backbone, would make the right choices morally and also has an ear for other people's problems. He has his own opinions and isn't afraid of raising them if necessary, and he can admit to have made mistakes. He's a kind and caring soul, and my Shep trusts him with his life.

When I played ME1+3 for the first time I took him everywhere and confided in him after missions. Brothers in arms and we have each others backs.



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The XO in 1 is Pressley and I don't think anyone can say different.  The ship is alliance and he, Kidan, Joker, and perhaps Adams are all LT's but serving in different departments.  With Kidan leading the marines and Joker the flight department Pressley is the one with experince in ship operartions and avible whenver you step off the ship.

 

In 2 it is Miranda.  It is a Cerberus ship and she was assigned by Cerberus.  Not only that she has experince in overseeing different departments and keeping them pointed towards a goal from her time incharge of project Lazzerus, which is more then anyone else on the crew.  And it certinly dosen't hurt that she is bit of hard ass on the crew which makes my captain, Shepard, seem much more human and worthy of loyalty when he goes around the ship checking in with the crew and listing to what they say.  It's an old trope really, the sympathitic captain looking out for the crew and the hard ass XO enforcing discipline and overseeing day to day operations.

 

In 3 it is much harder.  Kiaden is promoted to Major and leading a ground unit and not there for much of the opening of the game.  Ashley has no bussnies being an LC and I have no idea how she got promoted from operations cheif to lieutant commander in 3-6 months so I would never leave her in charge, certinaly dosen't help she isn't around for much of the opening either.  Joker is again bound to the cockpit which prevents him from overseeing others.  Adams would be a good choice but he is need in a woefully understaffed enginering.  Vega is a marine with limited knowledge of ship operations and so not suited.  I have to go with Cortez, he is familer with ship operations and incharge of a non critical department in the flight deck so he can leave it if need be.  Only problem is he inssint on flying me everywhere so that leaves either Adams or Joker as the second officer in charge until he gets back.


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ME1 - Kaidan then Ash after Virmire

 

ME2 - Miranda and Jacob

 

ME3 - not really sure lol



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ME 1: XO Pressly has the deck.
ME 2: Miranda. She also introduces herself as second in command.
ME 3: Ashley, because as Lt. Cmdr., she is the second highest officer aboard. She also was a squad leader in ME 1, so she has experiences in leading.

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I never liked miranda, damn cerb cheerleader, could'nt give a rats ass about her saying she's 2nd command.

During final mission in ME2 i told her exactly that by putting Garrus in charge :P

In ME3, pretty much every scene with ash ends in tears or near tears on her part. Her emotional state is almost constant soap opera drama-queen.

And as bunch1 said: getting promoted from gunnery chief to lt.cmd in 6 months... you are not prepared!

 

and i remind people, what person do YOU consider to be your 2nd in command. Not what the game tries to indicate.



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ME1: Pressley

ME2: Miranda

 

 

ME3: No one.  It has a turian vigilante that get saluted by generals, the shadow broker, the 2nd human spectre, possibly an quarian admiral, an unshackled AI and a prothean avatar of vengeance.

 

Guests include a Turian Primarch, another quarian admiral, the clan leader of Urdnot and an avatar of the Geth consciousness.

 

All that matters is that Shepard is in charge. Everyone else just follows. 

 

Basically "I'm not sure if the Normandy's warship or a traveling freak show."



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1: Pressley, cause he is.

2: Miranda, cause she is.

3: That's open for interpretation. For me its's Kaidan/Ashley, and during their absence Joker.



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ME1 : Although Pressley is the XO, I don't think he's suited for command and he seems more comfortable as a navigator. Kaidan did order him around during Ilos mission. If Bailey/Tigh was there, he would have minced Kaidan into a dough.

 

ME2 : Miranda made herself the XO. But I doubt her navigation skills with the Normandy. She seems more occupied writing reports than being in the CIC.. unless commanding a ship is among her super power too. If Miranda isn't up to it, since its Shepard's ship (whatever TIM) and isn't Alliance, probably between Samara and Garrus. Ask the oldest person on the ship if she handled a frigate before in her long life... if not, then ask Batman if he want the job.

 

ME3 : Kaidan/Ashley probably. But Kaidan seemed to have better experience in command and a suitable candidate as an XO. Remember the first few minutes in ME1, he was Joker's co-pilot and in the Earth prologue, he was taking command of the Normandy. While Ashley did the same but Kaidan is the most experienced officer on the ship and have more experience with the fleet than Ashley. Next candidate would be Adams but I prefer him to stay with the engine. Besides, didn't this episode happened when you make an engineer a commander.

 

Well, that's Kaidanite in me.



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ME1 - Pressley

 

ME2 - Miranda

 

ME3 - Ashley/Kaidan


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I never liked miranda, damn cerb cheerleader, could'nt give a rats ass about her saying she's 2nd command.

During final mission in ME2 i told her exactly that by putting Garrus in charge :P

In ME3, pretty much every scene with ash ends in tears or near tears on her part. Her emotional state is almost constant soap opera drama-queen.

And as bunch1 said: getting promoted from gunnery chief to lt.cmd in 6 months... you are not prepared!

 

and i remind people, what person do YOU consider to be your 2nd in command. Not what the game tries to indicate.

 

What the game indicates supercedes what you consider to be your second in command. 

 

Miranda is it in ME2. And your assessment of her is way off.



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ME2 : Miranda made herself the XO. But I doubt her navigation skills with the Normandy. She seems more occupied writing reports than being in the CIC.. unless commanding a ship is among her super power too. If Miranda isn't up to it, since its Shepard's ship (whatever TIM) and isn't Alliance, probably between Samara and Garrus. Ask the oldest person on the ship if she handled a frigate before in her long life... if not, then ask Batman if he want the job.

 

Doubt as much as you want, you're incorrect. 

 

Miranda is 100% up to the job. I don't know if you know what the first officer does on a Naval vessel. It does involve running the day to day activities and ensuring that all is smooth for the captain to command the ship. In the event that the captain is unavailable or incapacitated, the first officer is expected to know and understand the intricacies of a command environment. I have no doubts that Miranda knows the position better than anyone else presented. Otherwise, she wouldn't have been placed that high on the chain of command.

 

I doubt an Asari justicar has experience in the navy. Samara was a mercenary, then a housewife, then a justicar. None of them really prepared or put her into a position for being a commander. Garrus' judgement is also rather suspect. Space batman doesn't set one self up to lead others aboard a ship. Being a loner is not being an officer. As well, aliens. If anyone has to be the FO beyond Miranda, it's Joker or Jacob.



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ME1 - Pressly

 

ME2 - Miranda

 

ME3 - EDI. In combat,James or Javik.