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Excella Gionne

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If this mechanic(from Dragon Age)was in the Mass Effect series, which squadmates will dis/approve of your Shepard based on plot decisions or personal quests? It doesn't have to apply to these two, because it could apply to some responses that you think are important that could spark an approval or disapproval. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

P.S.: Really, Wrex? You are the first krogan who wants to save the council. :o



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P.S.: Really, Wrex? You are the first krogan who wants to save the council. :o

 

Mass Effect 1 is a bit odd in how squadmates respond to Shepard's decisions. Rather than characters being locked into a single viewpoint based on their backstory, instead the game is set up so that there will always be one squadmate who agrees with your choice and one who disagrees. Depending on the squadmates you bring on missions this can occasionally result in characters acting out of character.

 

For example Kaidan and Liara are the most paragon members of your squad in Mass Effect 1, although Kaidan can be guided into a slightly more renegade viewpoint. If Kaidan's personality doesn't shift however he is the slightly more paragon member of the two. That means if you bring both on every mission you'll have Liara arguing in favor of killing the Feros colonists, annihilating the Rachni, and sacrificing the Council.

 

Was Wrex paired with Ashley? I believe they are two most renegade characters of the squad, though like Kaidan Shepard can influence Ashley's personality slightly in the other direction. Maybe Ashley is slightly more renegade by default, resulting in Wrex arguing in favor of saving the Feros colonists, sparing the Rachni Queen, and saving the Council?

 

In any case had this mechanic not been present in ME1, I think it would have broken down like this:

 

Saving the Feros Colonists

 

Kaidan

Ashley

Liara

Tali

 

Sacrificing the Feros Colonists

 

Garrus

Wrex

 

Saving the Rachni Queen

 

Kaidan

Liara

Tali

 

Killing the Rachni Queen

 

Ashley

Garrus

Wrex

 

 

Saving the Council

 

Kaidan

Liara

Garrus

 

 

Sacrificing the Council

 

Ashley

Wrex

Tali


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Saving the Geth

Ashley disapproves

Kaiden disapproves

Garrus disapproves

Tali disapproves

EDI approves

James approves

Liara disapproves

Javik disapproves

 

Saving the Quarians

Ashley approves

Kaiden approves

Garrus approves

EDI disapproves

James approves

Liara approves

Javik disapproves

 

Unity between Geth and Quarians

Ashley disapproves

Kaiden disapproves

Garrus approves

EDI approves

James approves

Liara approves

Javik approves


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If ME3 had DA:I's approval system I think Javik would disapprove of both siding with the Geth or arranging peace between the Quarians and Geth. He hates synthetics after all and believes they cannot be trusted, and advises throwing Legion out of the airlock. My guess is that siding with the Geth would result in 'Javik Greatly Disapproves' and managing a peaceful solution to the Quarian-Geth conflict would result in 'Javik Disapproves.' Siding with the Quarians would probably get you 'Javik Greatly Approves'....not because he likes the Quarians, but just because he thinks the Geth are a betrayal waiting to happen and that all synthetics should be annihilated.



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Hmmm....

 

Keeping the Collector Base:

Miranda

Jacob

Zaeed

Grunt

 

Destroying the Collector Base

Jack

Tali

Kasumi

Garrus

 

Neutral:

Thane

Samara

Mordin

Legion

 

 

Jacob and Miranda (pro-Cerberus), and Tali and Jack (anti-Cerberus) seem obvious, but I cannot figure out if I pegged the others correctly. Anyone have better ideas?


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But if you pit paragons together, Liara is surprisingly more renegade than Kaidan.



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But if you pit paragons together, Liara is surprisingly more renegade than Kaidan.

She's like Leliana, but less steeled.



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Hmmm....

 

Keeping the Collector Base:

Miranda

Jacob

Zaeed

Grunt

 

Destroying the Collector Base

Jack

Tali

Kasumi

Garrus

 

Neutral:

Thane

Samara

Mordin

Legion

 

 

Jacob and Miranda (pro-Cerberus), and Tali and Jack (anti-Cerberus) seem obvious, but I cannot figure out if I pegged the others correctly. Anyone have better ideas?

ME2's a bit confusing on the squad mates' point of view on the Collector Base. They will agree with you if you destroy it, but then some will agree with you if you save it even after they expressed they'd like it destroyed. :-/



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They all disapprove about saving the base back on the ship if you talk to them after the SM. What made Miranda turn against Cerberus was not very clear. One moment, she is as Jack says a 'Cheerleader' and then suddenly without any development she can tell TiM to take a hike if Shepard destroys the base, and does not approve of saving it. I mean like what?



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They all disapprove about saving the base back on the ship if you talk to them after the SM. What made Miranda turn against Cerberus was not very clear. One moment, she is as Jack says a 'Cheerleader' and then suddenly without any development she can tell TiM to take a hike if Shepard destroys the base, and does not approve of saving it. I mean like what?

"Or what? You'll replace me next?" I never really understood her anger towards the Illusive Man. Somethin' we don't know, Biovare?



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*Shepard chooses Destroy*

 

Javik: Greatly Approves

 

Ashley/Kaidan: Approves

Tali: Approves

Garrus: Approves

Liara: Approves

James: Approves

 

EDI (for a brief second) : Greatly disapproves


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"Or what? You'll replace me next?" I never really understood her anger towards the Illusive Man. Somethin' we don't know, Biovare?

 

 

Hmm, maybe it's tied to all the extra-curricular activities TiM partakes in according to his SB dossier... Miranda upstaged by an Asari matriarch or a porn twin duo?

 

-edit- hey cool, our nifty game icons are back


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Hmm, maybe it's tied to all the extra-curricular activities TiM partakes in according to his SB dossier... Miranda upstaged by an Asari matriarch or a porn twin duo?

 

-edit- hey cool, our nifty game icons are back

That booty didn't work itself that's fo' sho'. ;)


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Miranda does not approve of keeping the Collector Base.

 

Miranda was also not nailing TIM. 



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ME1:

 

Saving Feros Colonists:

 

Ashley: Greatly Approves

Kaidan: Greatly Approves 

Garrus: Greatly Approves

Wrex: Approves

Tali: Greatly Approves

Liara: Greatly Approves

 

Killing many infected Feros Colonists:

 

Ashley: Disapproves

Kaidan: Disapproves

Garrus: Slightly Disapproves

Wrex: Approves

Tali: Slightly Disapproves

Liara: Slightly Disapproves

 

Killing Wrex:

 

Ashley: Greatly Approves

Kaidan: Approves

Garrus: Approves

Tali: No Change

Liara: No Change

 

Persuaded Wrex to stand down:

 

Ashley: Slightly Approves

Kaidan: Slightly Approves

Wrex: Approves

Garrus: Approves

Tali: Slightly Approves

Liara: Slightly Approves

 

Drawing the enemies from Kirrahe:

 

Tali: Approves

Liara: Approves

Garrus: Approves

Wrex: Approves

 

 

ME2:

 

Saving the Collector Base:

 

Zaeed: Greatly Disapproves

Legion: No Change

Tali: Greatly Disapproves

Samara: Greatly Disapproves

Jacob: Slightly Approves

Miranda: Greatly Approves

Garrus: Approves

Grunt: Greatly Approves

Kasumi: Greatly Disapproves

Jack: Greatly Disapproves

Thane: Slightly Disapproves

Mordin: Disapproves

 

Destroying Collector Base:

 

Zaeed: Greatly Approves

Legion: Approves

Tali: Greatly Approves

Samara: Greatly Approves

Garrus: Slightly Disapproves

Jacob: Approves

Miranda: Greatly Disapproves

Thane: Approves

Mordin: Approves

Kasumi: Greatly Approves

Grunt: Disapproves

Jack: Greatly Approves

 

 

ME3:

 

Side with the Geth:

 

Tali: Will commit suicide.

Garrus: Greatly Disapproves

Liara: Greatly Disapproves

EDI: Greatly Approves(If the geth saved from the dreadnought was Legion, otherwise, EDI gives an: Approves)

Javik: Greatly Disapproves

James: Greatly Disapproves

Kaidan: Greatly Disapproves

Ashley: Greatly Disapproves

 

Sided with the Quarians:

 

Tali: Greatly Approves

Garrus: Greatly Approves

Liara: Greatly Approves

Javik: Greatly Approves

EDI: Greatly Disapproves

Kaidan: Greatly Approves

Ashley: Greatly Approves

James: Greatly Approves

 

Peace between the Geth & Quarians:

 

Tali: Greatly Approves

Garrus: Slightly Approves

Liara: Approves

EDI: Greatly Approves

Javik: Greatly Disapproves

Ashley: Disapproves

Kaidan: Approves

James: Approves