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[The Devlish Redhead]

A few things I'd like thoughts on fellow geeks and geekettes....

Is it fair that now content providers are using the courts, at least over here to get ISPs to cough up users who have been illegally downloading their products and demanding damages?

Never done illegal downloads so I fail to feel sorry for anyone caught

and

Why is software like games and applications the only kind of product where you buy it but you don't actually own it outright, as in you can't do what you want with it due to things like EULA's and such?

Modifié par The Devlish Redhead, 07 avril 2015 - 09:57 .

[TurianRebel212]

Yeah. It's stealing. Online or off. Stealing is stealing. Just my opinion tho. 

[Jehuty]

If your friend bought the game and gave everyone a copy then that would hurt profits. Why buy when you can get it for free? Also, there is crap about copyright and so on and so forth. 

 

For pirating, I'm not going to be a SJW and say you need to buy every little thing or I'll report you. I'd rather avoid paying for the entire series of an anime or whatever, so if I can download it I do, unless it's games since I don't trust pirated games. Unlike money hungry devs, some of them are real crafty on how to deal with pirates in game. 

 

They don't want you to have the ability to do whatever with their products since it could hurt them, so it's easier to make it so you can only use them a certain way. 

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

I have an "extra" copy of Darkest Dungeon even though I own it on Steam because I need a way to continue my Let's Play if the game auto-updates and isn't savegame compatible.

I would suppose that my situation is an exception, but it demonstrates that pirating doesn't necessarily mean a lost sale.

[Zeroth Angel]

I only pirate my fantranslated Japanese visual novels and I've never gotten in trouble for that.

 

I would gladly pay for those VN's if they actually bothered bringing them over here.

[Jehuty]

wut

I'm tired. 

 

So I'm not making sense. 

[Draining Dragon]

Stealing is stealing. Pirating a game is no different from grabbing a copy off the shelf at GameStop and walking out without paying.

[Rorschachinstein]

Maybe I'm old school in the idea, that if I think your product is worth that much money, then I'll pay you what you believe it's worth. If I don't believe that it's worth that much, then that black and white line becomes blurry.

[Draining Dragon]

Maybe I'm old school in the idea, that if I think your product is worth that much money, then I'll pay you what you believe it's worth. If I don't believe that it's worth that much, then that black and white line becomes blurry.

If you aren't willing to pay what the seller is charging, you don't get the product. It's that simple. If nobody is willing to pay the amount being charged, the seller has to lower their price if they want to make money. If they don't, then it's their loss. Find a different product.

Petty thievery isn't the answer.

[The Devlish Redhead]

I would not have an EULA if I were making and selling games.  I've made the item I sell the item what you do with it is your business.

[The Devlish Redhead]

Oh and these skits are awesome

 

 

[Garryydde]

Obligatory:

[Dio Demon]

YOU WOULDNT STEAL A CAR

My favourite one is where it says if you pirate. You support terrorism...

[Fast Jimmy]

YOU WOULDNT STEAL A CAR

Then again, I can't steal a car with a quick Google search, either.

[metatheurgist]

Then again, I can't steal a car with a quick Google search, either.

Maybe you can when Google starts making cars?

[bmwcrazy]

More like questions for lawyers.

[Fidite Nemini]

Some courts have judged it legal for media publishers to demand stuff from ISPs for users that are downloading/distributing illegal copies of data, yes.

 

That can range from simply having the ISPs send warnings, to throttling or cancelling internet access all the way to delivering cutomer data for the publishers to demand fees.

 

However, those same media publishers are also notoriously happy to send out false warnings/accusations in hopes that people simply pay up to avoid court, etc.!

 

As for whether that's fair or not, it's something that's decided by judges. In some cases they judged pro-media, in other cases pro-customers/ISP. It really largely depends on how strong the media lobby is wherever that questions goes to court. Note that those publishers sending out false demands is illegal, so if anyone ever gets mail demanding fees for downloads you didn't do, contact your lawyer, it's basically extortion.

 

 

The last question is too complicated for me to really give an answer, let's just say there's various good arguments for both sides.

[wolfsite]

Why is software like games and applications the only kind of product where you buy it but you don't actually own it outright, as in you can't do what you want with it due to things like EULA's and such?

 

It started with Steam, they were getting hit with lawsuits in Europe because they do not have a refund policy which is required by law in European countries.  Steam got around this by re-writting the EULA so that customers no longer legally own the game they are purchasing but are merely purchasing a license.

 

However European law hit them again and they just changed the EULA so that you are no longer purchasing a license but are merely subscribing to a service.  Other software companies followed suit once they saw everyone agreeing to the new terms with little backlash, though it was either "Agree to these terms or you are no longer allowed to play games you legally purchased".

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

Question:

What happens when you buy a graphic card that's too big for your case? I mean it can't go through!

[Fast Jimmy]

Question:
What happens when you buy a graphic card that's too big for your case? I mean it can't go through!

Well, it may seem to big at first. You usually have luck if you try to gently but firmly work it in there, being careful not to be too forceful and hurt something...


In all seriousness, are you saying the PCI slot doesn't fit? Or that it just genuinely is too tall for the case?

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

In all seriousness, are you saying the PCI slot doesn't fit? Or that it just genuinely is too tall for the case?

 

too tall for the case. I measured my case and at max there is 11" room for graphic card (from the backside of the case to that last available point). I should have bought a better case at first...

 

haven't got any GPU yet though. It seem GTX760 fits, but ATI R9 280-290 are longer than that. I don't know what to do...