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[Amne YA]

So  we discover that  elven gods exist  , and tiventer gods exist , but until now their is no evidance of the maker existance , 
Solas say about the elven gods  that he don"t beleive they are gods they are powerfull mages or something .
The tiventer say about their gods that theu are some ancient Magister , right ? 
SO  THEIR IS NO GOD  in  DA  ? just elven mage and tiventer Magister that turned to gods just Cory was traying ? 
some one explain pliz

[esh1996]

... can you atleast try to write in correct English?

Elven Gods = powerful ancient elves who ended up being worshipped by inferior elves.
Tevinter Gods = magisters who aspired to godhood like Coryfish and succeeded. Now they just cause Blights.
The Maker = we have no evidence proving his existence as either a tangible thing (like Solas) or as a divine power. Like the gods in our world, you can choose to believe in him or not. There is no real 'evidence' supporting his existence.

^ I might be wrong, correct me if you know better

[Serza]

... can you atleast try to write in correct English?

Elven Gods = powerful ancient elves who ended up being worshipped by inferior elves.
Tevinter Gods = magisters who aspired to godhood like Coryfish and succeeded. Now they just cause Blights.
The Maker = we have no evidence proving his existence as either a tangible thing (like Solas) or as a divine power. Like the gods in our world, you can choose to believe in him or not. There is no real 'evidence' supporting his existence.

^ I might be wrong, correct me if you know better

 

You are mostly correct, as far as the lore suggests.

 

Tevinter Gods (aka the Old Gods) are, however, NOT Magisters. They're old, powerful High Dragons, which are locked up underground, and every now and then one is corrupted into an Archdemon.

[esh1996]

You are mostly correct, as far as the lore suggests.
 
Tevinter Gods (aka the Old Gods) are, however, NOT Magisters. They're old, powerful High Dragons, which are locked up underground, and every now and then one is corrupted into an Archdemon.

Oh yeah... Haha, I forgot they were dragons. How could I do that?

[Serza]

Oh yeah... Haha, I forgot they were dragons. How could I do that?

 

Oh, don't worry about it. We all forget things every now and then.

[Han Shot First]

So  we discover that  elven gods exist  , and tiventer gods exist , but until now their is no evidance of the maker existance , 
Solas say about the elven gods  that he don"t beleive they are gods they are powerfull mages or something .
The tiventer say about their gods that theu are some ancient Magister , right ? 
SO  THEIR IS NO GOD  in  DA  ? just elven mage and tiventer Magister that turned to gods just Cory was traying ? 
some one explain pliz

 

Whether or not the Maker exists is still an unknown. 

 

Given the trend however in the series of every culture's gods being real, except somewhat different from how they imagine them...I think that is probably true of the Maker as well. There probably is an entity that the Maker is based on, but some of the Chantry's doctrine and teachings would be flawed.

 

... can you atleast try to write in correct English?
 

 

The OP isn't a native English speaker. I believe in another thread he said he is from Morocco.

 

Try to be patient, unless your Arabic is better than his English. 

[Master Warder Z_]

I can sort of read Farsi...

[Amne YA]

Okey so tiventer gods are dragons , and elven gods are mages , 
Solas like the idea of the maker ,  he say that a god that doasn"t need to proove his self as a god is  a  intersting thing

[lordsaren101]

Old gods are not mere high dragons. They are something different altogether.

[Amne YA]

Something like the Avar god ?  a   spirit in a dragon ? 

[Han Shot First]

There is also the theory that the Old Gods are the Forgotten Ones.

[Amne YA]

There is also the theory that the Old Gods are the Forgotten Ones.

yeah  their is one god   that have 2 name  but it the same god  , but have a name for the elfs and a name in tiventer i think
PS : i like your profil pics haha

[lordsaren101]

Old gods are just that, gods that physically manifest as Draconic. All male, except Razikale who is female.

[Amne YA]

so in my opinion i like the idea of the maker , some thing or someone have created the world , it didn"t come from no where . 
but i don"t like the idea of andraste ,  i think the andraste tales are just made by the chantry , can we worship the maker without beleiving in andraste prophecy ? 
i think she just wanted to not be a slave of tiventer and raised her self as a prophet no maker have talked to her i think .
cause i think the maker like solas say is  a god that don"t prove his self so he don't  interfer in mortal  problemes

[Amne YA]

[Roamingmachine]

... can you atleast try to write in correct English?

Elven Gods = powerful ancient elves who ended up being worshipped by inferior elves.
Tevinter Gods = magisters who aspired to godhood like Coryfish and succeeded. Now they just cause Blights.
The Maker = we have no evidence proving his existence as either a tangible thing (like Solas) or as a divine power. Like the gods in our world, you can choose to believe in him or not. There is no real 'evidence' supporting his existence.

^ I might be wrong, correct me if you know better

 

The only thing Solas says that about them is that he does not belive they were gods. Their true nature is left open but seeing as they are not tied to bodies, i'd say they were never elves but something else entirely.

[Amne YA]

The only thing Solas says that about them is that he does not belive they were gods. Their true nature is left open but seeing as they are not tied to bodies, i'd say they were never elves but something else entirely.

spirits? powerfull spirit ?the avaar worship  spirit and name them  gods , so maybe it"s the same thing ?  Spirit of godhood  ?  like their is a spirit of wisdome / rage etc ?

[Patchwork]

The only thing Solas says that about them is that he does not belive they were gods. Their true nature is left open but seeing as they are not tied to bodies, i'd say they were never elves but something else entirely.

 

Well Mythal isn't and considering everything she's been through the body jumping trick could be limited to her.

 

The Old Gods being linked to the elves makes sense but I do wonder if they're a remnant of the dragons Yavana was trying to bring back in The Silent Grove, a task given to her by Flemythal -a dragon.

 

If BW hadn't made the Maker and Andrastianism so much like Christianity and God I'd think that we'd eventually learn that the Maker is a powerful Fade creature. If nothing else it would put the Maker on the same level as the other gods in the DA universe.     

[Amne YA]

Well Mythal isn't and considering everything she's been through the body jumping trick could be limited to her.

 

The Old Gods being linked to the elves makes sense but I do wonder if they're a remnant of the dragons Yavana was trying to bring back in The Silent Grove, a task given to her by Flemythal -a dragon.

 

If BW hadn't made the Maker and Andrastianism so much like Christianity and God I'd think that we'd eventually learn that the Maker is a powerful Fade creature. If nothing else it would put the Maker on the same level as the other gods in the DA universe.     

i realy hope they don"t do that ,  i realy like the idea of the maker being to true god that created every thing . and the elven god / tiventer god are just creatures that the maker have created  but because of their power  the weaker creature worship them 

[Ynqve]

I hope they never reveal the truth about the Maker. It's far more interesting to keep it vague. 

[Ashagar]

Yah, I am rather content with the prophesy that the maker will return and other more vague hints he might exist without having it gone in depth and proven. I am more interested in preandrestian ancient Neromenian and Tevinter beliefs about him and how the might they differ from the modern Andrestian teachings as well as even what was changed by the orlesian and Imperial chantries from Andreste's original teachings.

[myahele]

Spoiler

Geldaurran Claim Codex Entry:

"There are no gods. There is only the subject and the object, the actor and the acted upon. Those with will to earn dominance over others gain title not by nature but by deed.

I am Geldauran, and I refuse those who would exert will upon me. Let Andruil's bow crack, let June's fire grow cold. Let them build temples and lure the faithful with promises. Their pride will consume them, and I, forgotten, will claim power of my own, apart from them until I strike in mastery."

Geldaurran is one of the Forgotten Ones (evil elf gods or so they say)
 

It's interesting that s/he share the same pov as Solas

[Han Shot First]

The Maker revealed:

 

Spoiler

 

[Carmen_Willow]

so in my opinion i like the idea of the maker , some thing or someone have created the world , it didn"t come from no where . 
but i don"t like the idea of andraste ,  i think the andraste tales are just made by the chantry , can we worship the maker without beleiving in andraste prophecy ? 
i think she just wanted to not be a slave of tiventer and raised her self as a prophet no maker have talked to her i think .
cause i think the maker like solas say is  a god that don"t prove his self so he don't  interfer in mortal  problemes

Andraste, like you, Inquisitor, probably didn't set out to be "The Bride of the Maker" any more than you set out to be "Andraste's Herald." What is more likely is that she, like you had stories told about her that were allowed to circulate because they helped fuel the revolution and inspire the troops. It's not her fault that she got made into a legend, just like it won't be your fault when two hundred years after your death, you will be remembered as the Herald no matter how many times you told people otherwise. Ordinary people doing extraordinary things get turned into gods all the time.

[Amne YA]

we need to find the truth