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#251
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There was a leak that said her death is canon. Everything else from the leak has been confirmed. 

 

 

The augmented people were still hacked and attacked people. The mistrust comes from that. 

 

It's possible, I have considered it, But still people would have zero details of the incident then. That'd be a bit rash.



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Again, dude, what? Megan is a woman. I'm not saying there should be a choice of gender, or race, or background, or anything. 

 

I'm straight up saying what I've literally said three posts in a row, which is that there is no plot reason that ties Jensen to one gender. 

 

It's his character, it's how the character was designed with dialogue lines reflecting this, particularly from other female characters who clearly note Jensen's male gender.

 

Make a female character and you'll need to change dialogue from other characters unless you just what some crappy re-skin just to appease people who want to play as a female who gains all the same lines as the opposite sex, has the same animations and same story. It might work for a developer like Bioware but I think Edios would want to be a little more realistic.

 

Adam Jensen was designed and envisioned as a male. Just deal with it.


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Adam Jensen was designed and envisioned as a male. Deal with it.



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While we're at it, let's rewrite Geralt as a female because The Witcher series never actually requires him to use his willy for plot reasons now does it? Just rewrite him into a lesbian with love interests as lesbians.

 

Think about, in The Witcher 2's plot, can you honestly tell me that Geralt actually needed his c o c k for any part of the plot? It's not like his relationship with Triss is about having children so as female lesbians they can still have the same dynamics in their relationship.

 

Lara Croft can be turned into Larry Croft and the sexual assault scene in the Tomb Raider reboot can be turned into a gay man sexually assaulting Larry.

 

Look he already exists:

 

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#255
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I want someone to re-write Captain Ahab as a woman. 



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James Bond? Nah mate where's my black female lesbian Bond known as Jamie Mwanajuma Bond? It's not like James Bond has children and all the plots in Bond films could easily have been rewritten so the love interests were either lesbians or simply males that Jamie seduces. Seduction isn't linked to one gender and sexuality now is it?

 

When James Bond has to specifically use his willy to disarm a nuclear missile then you can come back telling me why they can't make a Muslim female black lesbian Bond.



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EP Chill.

 

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Thanks boo, mwah.



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It's his character, it's how the character was designed with dialogue lines reflecting this, particularly from other female characters who clearly note Jensen's male gender.

 

Make a female character and you'll need to change dialogue from other characters unless you just what some crappy re-skin just to appease people who want to play as a female who gains all the same lines as the opposite sex, has the same animations and same story. It might work for a developer like Bioware but I think Edios would want to be a little more realistic.

 

Adam Jensen was designed and envisioned as a male. Just deal with it.

 

Dude, for the fifth time, what you said was that changing the gender would have to mean changing the relationship with Megan. It doesn't. Just let it go. I don't know what you think you're arguing with, but it certainly isn't posts I've been making. 

 

There's literally no content in DX:HR that requires Jensen to be a guy. Sure, there are masculine pronouns being used but it's straight up insane to say that's an actual story reason for Jensen to be a dude. 

 

I'm going to try and spell this out as clearly as possible for you since you seem to be struggling with the concept:

 

1. I did not say DX:HR should have had a customizable protagonist.

2. I did not say that DX:MD should have a customizable protagonist.

3. I did not, in particular, say that Squenix should have about people who want customizable protagonists.

4. I did say that there's no actual reason that Megan's gender would have to change if Jensen's gender changed. 

5. I did say there's nothing in the plot that requires Jensen to have a dick.  

 

While we're at it, let's rewrite Geralt as a female because The Witcher series never actually requires him to use his willy for plot reasons now does it? Just rewrite him into a lesbian with love interests as lesbians.

 

Think about, in The Witcher 2's plot, can you honestly tell me that Geralt actually needed his c o c k for any part of the plot? It's not like his relationship with Triss is about having children so as female lesbians they can still have the same dynamics in their relationship.

 

Dude, you seriously need to chill out. "We wanted a dude character" is a perfectly legitimate reason to have a dude character. You're the only one that feels the need to say that the plot somehow requires **** as a justification for a set male protagonist. 

 

Gender tends to be totally irrelevant to the plot. But it doesn't matter. People's choices for set protagonists are entirely justifiable without trying to hide behind the plot. 


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Alright everyone, Chill. Take this to PM please.



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I might have to replay the first two games again, but that sounds suspiciously similar to Adam's backstory.

It does, doesn't it? But it's the truth. Since this is the year JC gets cloned, I'm convinced they'll splice Adam's DNA into his embryo or something.

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I hope they don't use the asinine compromise of having all the endings be somewhat canon like Invisible War now that choices don't carry over-- They should have just gone with one ending as canon. Problem solved.



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Guys, Why am i getting the feeling that they will use the Taggart ending as canon? I mean the Illuminati are still there in the shadows, So that rules out the Darrow ending, And people hate augmented citizens, Obviously, So that rules out the Sarif ending, My choice. And Adam is still alive, So that rules out the Self Destruction ending. What do you think?

The entire trailer seems to be showing events out of order, so that scene might not be a result of Panchea's destruction.

 

I actually thought they were canonizing Darrow's ending (what with the oppression of the augmented) before I caught wind of this "none of it was cannon" stuff.

What I'm wondering is if we're going to meet Garvin Quinn again, as his involvement seemed unfinished after The Missing Link.



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The entire trailer seems to be showing events out of order, so that scene might not be a result of Panchea's destruction.

 

I actually thought they were canonizing Darrow's ending (what with the oppression of the augmented) before I caught wind of this "none of it was cannon" stuff.

What I'm wondering is if we're going to meet Garvin Quinn again, as his involvement seemed unfinished after The Missing Link.

 

Darrow's ending is more feasible given the trailer, Yes, But the Illuminati are still in charge and are still from the shadows apparently. And Darrow's ending was to tell the story as it was without tweaking it. So that basically ruled out. The only totally screwed ending is the Sarif ending. There's no indication that they had any intention of canonizing it.



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Darrow's ending is more feasible given the trailer, Yes, But the Illuminati are still in charge and are still from the shadows apparently. And Darrow's ending was to tell the story as it was without tweaking it. So that basically ruled out. The only totally screwed ending is the Sarif ending. There's no indication that they had any intention of canonizing it.

 

Well, a madman hacking the augmented population and sending a message ranting about the Illuminati is still feasible.  Just because said madman screams "ILLUMINATI!" who's going to believe it?  ;)


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Well lets see, we have Jensen floating upon water. Assumption is self-destruct, public forming their own opinions without knowledge of actual events.

 

Darrow's was the revelation of the whole truth.

 

Sarif's was basically BS'ing the public framing Humanity Front for what happened so that augmentation advancement would go on unhindered.

 

Taggart's was getting the public to believe that a need for more control over augmentation was a necessity, giving the Illuminati the power to do their thing.

 

So how can these all mix?

 

Well, first lets assume that a message was sent out before self-destruct. So the self-destruct and deaths happened, but some message/s made it out beforehand.

 

Is it not possible that all messages made it out but to different parties? Or at least, Sarif's went somewhere, Taggart's went elsewhere, and Darrow's never did?

 

Could be that Taggart's gets the public to back what is seemingly this anti-aug ideology. Sarif's gives hope to those with augs. Only Jensen and Eliza Cassan knowing what actually went down(and you know Cassan's not just gonna reveal the truth out of nowhere, she exists as she does for a reason).

 

Lets try to figure this out. SPECULATIONS!



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I just want better melee options. And can we get a knife/blade animation for a stealth kill that isn't egregious? Like just a quick stab.



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I just want better melee options. And can we get a knife/blade animation for a stealth kill that isn't egregious? Like just a quick stab.


Jensen literally rips enemies in half as they widely scream and throws away the respective chunks across the room.

Stealth kill so no one gets altered, obviously.

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Jensen literally rips enemies in half as they widely scream and throws away the respective chunks across the room.

Stealth kill so no one gets altered, obviously.

 

Thats why we knock them out tho



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Thats why we knock them out tho

But I want them dead! Besides knocking someone out for that long a time would probably cause severe brain damage. It'd be a mercy kill tbh.



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But I want them dead! Besides knocking someone out for that long a time would probably cause severe brain damage. It'd be a mercy kill tbh.

 

Bah! Semantics. :P


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I just want better melee options. And can we get a knife/blade animation for a stealth kill that isn't egregious? Like just a quick stab.

Totally agree, those insta gibs from stealth had some long animations.

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But I want them dead! Besides knocking someone out for that long a time would probably cause severe brain damage. It'd be a mercy kill tbh.

 

I recall the figure was something like more than a few seconds of unconsciousness means almost certain brain damage. So, where I'm going with this is that Jensen is really waging a one man war on the side of insurance premiums. 

 

Edit: For posterity, I should point out I talked about bran damage pre-edit, and I'm at least 65% sure that humans being unconscious has no impact on the quality of bran. 


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It's a little touch I loved in Alpha Protocol, if you knock out people the game tracks the amount of insurance money your damage caused.



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It's a little touch I loved in Alpha Protocol, if you knock out people the game tracks the amount of insurance money your damage caused.


Well, I think Interpol has Jensen covered this time around.