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[NuclearTech76]

New players have to go to platinum sometime.  Otherwise manifest unlocking takes too long.

I mean technically you can do two gold matches or three silver matches in the time it takes for one elite player to carry a team through platinum. Newer players will have more fun actually playing instead of spectating as well I would think. Nothing wrong with a team of newer players farming platinum though either as long as they're organized they should be able to do it pretty easily with the appropriate builds/strategy. The problem is some think going into Plat and not being able to hold their own is a good usage of time building a manifest; it's just not if your "team" is taking forty minutes to clear a match. I've had pugs tell me over the mic to go ahead and fail after six because they didn't want to watch me solo the rest of the match but they wanted the credits.

[capn233]

PUGs would never tell you to suicide on PC.  Mainly because they wouldn't say anything.

 

Honestly though, I would never think of going into a platinum pug with the expectation that I would not have to solo any portion of it.  That means goof off builds and weapons are out.  If you just want to screw around and take whatever into a PUG for grins, then you can't be too mad when the PUG fails.

 

In any rate, I don't recall ever being in a platinum pug that took 40 minutes.  The only 40 minute game I remember (and quite clearly) was a gold PUG I was in on Condor - Reapers right after Condor was released.  Also the time of 20 minutes for a Gold pug is pretty optimistic as well.  Usually that only happens when there is either a spawn nuker (missiles or grenades), or everyone has decent dps characters.  Spawn nuking and a decent dps team is going to clear platinum game in much less than 40 min.

[Catastrophy]

My alt account with N7=120 like you and CP under 1000 has made more than one host rage quit at being massively outscored by wave 5.

 

Sudden host migration means I'm doing something right

 

Let's join up. I'll be the fabulous purple-pink AIU with a fabulous shiny Reegar shooting fabulous blue flames. We will make all the hosts rage quit. For the sake of the galaxy

I was thinking about something yellow. But maybe I should reserve that for my Shadow. How about we do the Bride vs The Crazy 88? (I'm gonna suck!)

[Marksmad is waving goodbye]

I was thinking about something yellow. But maybe I should reserve that for my Shadow. How about we do the Bride vs The Crazy 88? (I'm gonna suck!)

We're fabulous. We can do anything we like. And who cares about sucking? Extraction is something only tryhards worry about

[HeroicMass]

But......but it only lifts unshielded targets. It's not like it can be spammed and go through walls or anything like that. According to BSN last I checked, lifting shockwave was a useless evolution. 

 

I'm kind of surprised we haven't had a debate on how good lifting shockwave is, considering people have now came around to CS builds for the human soldier and hell PC players are even excepting the venom now days. 

 

I brought it up about a year ago and people still looked down upon it because they are weak

[Deerber]

I brought it up about a year ago and people still looked down upon it because they are weak

 

If that's the definition of being weak, then I'm proud to say that I'm weak as ****!

[Catastrophy]

We're fabulous. We can do anything we like. And who cares about sucking? Extraction is something only tryhards worry about

It is agreed, then.

[TheN7Penguin]

Today I was playing Gold and there was a level 5 Drell Adept with the Shuriken I and the Predator I. Had low challenge points and N7 rank which was about 50. I got the hell out of there.

[Creator Limbs]

I don't understand this thread.

 

I don't understand any thread anymore.

[ClydeInTheShell]

So, executing 2 Shadow Strikes in a row with 0 delay in between is wrong? Not to mention the ability to cloak, strike and run away - all while being literally on health gate (and Shadow spends a lot of time on health gate, at least the way I play her)?

 

 

 

 

Try a platinum solo with the DI and Graal on Condor vs. Geth. You will learn to love duration there.

 

 

No.

 

 

Oh look, this again.........

What?! He asked me to say it. 

 

I don't use duration on Infiltrators but I do understand it is useful sometimes. 

[D-Rock0713]

What?! He asked me to say it.

I don't use duration on Infiltrators but I do understand it is useful sometimes.

That 80% damage bonus is too good to pass up

[Marksmad is waving goodbye]

It is agreed, then.

I will see you online for our playdate then

[HeroicMass]

If that's the definition of being weak, then I'm proud to say that I'm weak as ****!

 

I bet you've never even tried it.  Don't be a chicken Deerber.

 

You still get your nova cancel, i-frame abuser.

[Deerber]

I bet you've never even tried it.  Don't be a chicken Deerber.

 

You still get your nova cancel, i-frame abuser.

 

In fact, I never have. Same as I never played an infiltrator without TC, or a Drell without fitness

 

Besides, I'm talking about a no Nova build, here. No fitness is vastly better, but I still prefer to spec out of shockwave, as I have a hard time imagining a situation in which I'd rather use shockwave than BC.

[MajorStupidity]

That 80% damage bonus is too good to pass up

It is 40% and it is additive. The bonus is nice, and for certain characters I will take it. However, I take duration on several of my infiltrators and do fine the Inf will kick ass no matter what evolution you take, but sometimes it is nice to have the leeway to spend some more time in cloak. It is not optimal, but saying that it is outright wrong is probably going to far.

 

Same reason I would use the lancer over my CSMG on xbox because I felt like it, and I still did fine.

[Creator Limbs]

In fact, I never have. Same as I never played an infiltrator without TC, or a Drell without fitness
 
Besides, I'm talking about a no Nova build, here. No fitness is vastly better, but I still prefer to spec out of shockwave, as I have a hard time imagining a situation in which I'd rather use shockwave than BC.

 
I haven't played a Drell in so long that I forgot you're supposed to spec them with full fitness so I was like "wat"
 

It is 40% and it is additive. The bonus is nice, and for certain characters I will take it. However, I take duration on several of my infiltrators and do fine the Inf will kick ass no matter what evolution you take, but sometimes it is nice to have the leeway to spend some more time in cloak. It might not be optimal, but saying that it is outright wrong is probably going to far.

No. It's an 80% bonus.

[MajorStupidity]

 

No. It's an 80% bonus.

You already have the 40% bonus regardless of which evolution you take. The actual choice only adds 40% more.

[Creator Limbs]

40% extra bonus > 6 extra seconds of cloaking

[MajorStupidity]

40% extra bonus > 6 extra seconds of cloaking

It is the most optimal choice, but it is hardly going to break your character if you don't take the damage bonus. I understand why people take the damage I just prefer the duration. I also don't play platinum so that could make a difference in my preference.

[Creator Limbs]

considering the way that tactical cloak doesn't work like you'd expect a tactical cloak to work, I can't see why ANYONE would choose duration over damage, but whatever.

[MajorStupidity]

considering the way that tactical cloak doesn't work like you'd expect a tactical cloak to work, I can't see why ANYONE would choose duration over damage, but whatever.

Subjective arbitrary preference is subjective and arbitrary

 

I just like it I can't explain why, and I still do well enough regardless.

[Creator Limbs]

I don't doubt that you do ok.

 

But why do ok when you could do better

[Zerc]

[MajorStupidity]

I don't doubt that you do ok.

 

But why do ok when you could do better

On some infiltrators I do take damage it is mostly the TGI and Shadow that I take duration on. The shadow I take it with bonus power to have more time to line up two Shadow Strikes. And on the TGI I take it because the damage bonus feels less significant with the Assault Rifles I run on him.

[Ghost Of N7_SP3CTR3]

Duration cloak has enough benefits to make me want to use it more than not.I can do the 4 devices safely unseen,run into some pretty messy situations to rez teammates unseen,rush a spawn of enemies unseen for a surprise attack,flank enemies more efficiently,run through a mob to get to one of the 4 targets,but that's just how I like to play.To each their own I guess.