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[StealthGamer92]

I believe you are dodging what is abundantly obvious. All of the races in the galaxy were having their DNA replaced with Shepard's "new DNA." There is no assumption here. That is what the game stated from the words of the Catalyst and by the depictions from EC. Again, everybody has become more similar as a result because those who share something in common are less likely to fight over differences. That was the "solution." In order to avoid conflict, the easy way to diffuse any situation is to take away what makes people different to start.

Not dodgeing, and they are only more simmilar in terms of the green circuitry glow otherwise theres absolutely no way to tell what changes were made. And I repeat there is no way to tell if the new DNA is identical or just improved in some yet unkown way.

[Revan Reborn]

The thing says "will combine all synthetic and organic life into a new framework. A new .....DNA"

 

https://youtu.be/MnoTHbvl2Wg?t=9m25s

 

Not dodgeing, and they are only more simmilar in terms of the green circuitry glow otherwise theres absolutely no way to tell what changes were made. And I repeat there is no way to tell if the new DNA is identical or just improved in some yet unkown way.

 

@themikefest was kind enough to answer your question already. The Catalyst's statement clearly shows that there is now only one DNA in the galaxy that all organics and synthetics share. Again, the Catalyst's goal is to make everybody the "same" in order to avoid the chaos that comes from being "different."

[StealthGamer92]

@themikefest was kind enough to answer your question already. The Catalyst's statement clearly shows that there is now only one DNA in the galaxy that all organics and synthetics share. Again, the Catalyst's goal is to make everybody the "same" in order to avoid the chaos that comes from being "different."

Sorry but after watching the full Synthesis conversation I don't see how it makes my understanding wrong, UNLESS I were to ignore everything after @themikefest excerpt. The full convo has in it "organics will be perfected by integrating fully with synthetic technolegy, synthetics in turn will finally have understanding of organics." Sounds like I'd only really be adding tech to organic makeup(organics have some bio-tech in them naturaly from now on) and giving synthetics "organic processes" like emotion(guess on the synthetic part). When I listened just now I notice 2 things 1->DNA seems to be just a poor choice of wording and 2-> off topic but, male Sheps voice was the echo in the Catalysts speach.

[Revan Reborn]

Sorry but after watching the full Synthesis conversation I don't see how it makes my understanding wrong, UNLESS I were to ignore everything after @themikefest excerpt. The full convo has in it "organics will be perfected by integrating fully with synthetic technolegy, synthetics in turn will finally have understanding of organics." Sounds like I'd only really be adding tech to organic makeup(organics have some bio-tech in them naturaly from now on) and giving synthetics "organic processes" like emotion(guess on the synthetic part). When I listened just now I notice 2 things 1->DNA seems to be just a poor choice of wording and 2-> off topic but, male Sheps voice was the echo in the Catalysts speach.

You would be misinterpreting then. There is a synergy happening on both sides. Organics are receiving a new DNA as well as more synthetic technology so they can be "perfected." Synthetics are receiving "understanding," essentially emotions and the capacity to care for others. The issue here is you do not realize how intrusive Synthesis actually is. This isn't simply all organics receiving a few synthetic upgrades. Their very fabric is being repurposed so that everybody gets along in harmony and peace.

[timebean]

Wow, this is neat because I never realized the problem folks had with synthesis was a about the loss of individuality. Ie, I never saw the rewriting of the DNA as a thing that homogenizes all the creatures in the galaxy in any way, and the ending does not suggest this either. 

 

What bothers me about the synthesis option is the assumption that the catalyst makes that rewriting the genetic structure of all life is necessary in the first place.  There is no premise for this.  The catalyst decided that all synthetic life would wipe out all organic life in the first cycle.  Thus, it chose to use the reapers as a way to preserve the organic life and achievements of that cycle and make room for organics to try again.  Every time it those new civilizations reached the point of creating synthetic life, the reapers returned to clean up the inevitable mess.

 

BUT...in my game, Shepard shows that it was possible for organic and synthetic life to cooperate.  This is illustrated in the Rannoch stuff.  Ie, the AI was incorrect in assuming mutual destruction was inevitable. My commander showed the cooperation was indeed possible.

 

So…I guess what I am saying is that the synthesis solution is not needed. And the catalyst’s assertions are not based in observation…BECAUSE it has continuously destroyed organic civilizations BEFORE any such peace or utter destruction could be achieved. Hence, it assumes all synthetics could wipe out organics, but has NEVER seen it happen. Hence, its assertions are based on nothing more than a projection from the first cycle. It has never given any subsequent cycle the chance to prove it wrong.

 

This cycle was different because Shepard delayed the reapers.  And a peace between geth and quarians was achieved. To me, that was what made this cycle different...the simple fact that the reapers didn't get a chance to reap. The catalyst claims that organics are finally ready for the final stage of evolution.  But I rebel against the idea that this must mean synthesis is an answer.  They are a unique cycle because they got a dammed chance to be!

 

 I do not see synthesis as necessary just because the catalyst says so. The game clearly shows that the organics and synthetics of this cycle can coexist.  And that...to me, is a much cooler "utopia" than magically making them all hybrids.  It is...I don't know...it cheapens the story for me. It is too easy.  Like Legion said… “We make our own future.” What makes this cycle unique in any way is that it finally had time to achieve understanding between synthetics and organics because the reapers were unable to interfere. And the destroy option stops their interference forever.

 

The fact that peace could exist, that understanding could be obtained between synthetic and organic life does not support the catalyst's assertions.  And its claim that "the peace will not last" is not based on observation.  It has never observed any cycle to completion, and thus does not have any evidence to support this claim.

 

Sorry for the long post…I am not sure if I am making sense and may have went in circles a bit!

[StealthGamer92]

You would be misinterpreting then. There is a synergy happening on both sides. Organics are receiving a new DNA as well as more synthetic technology so they can be "perfected." Synthetics are receiving "understanding," essentially emotions and the capacity to care for others. The issue here is you do not realize how intrusive Synthesis actually is. This isn't simply all organics receiving a few synthetic upgrades. Their very fabric is being repurposed so that everybody gets along in harmony and peace.

No I'm reaching an understanding based on my point of view, this "solution" is vague and I see how it can get people to your conclusion. I do see how invasive it is, do you relize from my point of view the Catalys is just stating what it sees as the most likely result of Synthesis' s activation? There is no way it could be sure of the results of any action with 100% accuracy. I also don't see it making all DNA identical(though I acknowledg it as possible), but just modifying it so people start being able to easier understand eachother and synthetics. I also see myself empowering criminals and the like as well as already dangerous species such as Yahg and Krogan, but I'm also helping the good people out too so I am making just as much trouble as I'm solving. My view is not wrong or righ, moral or justified it's just what I believe is the lesser of 4 evils. Your choice is the same, wether more belive in one or the other is irrelevant. There is no right, just, or perfect ending.

[Revan Reborn]

No I'm reaching an understanding based on my point of view, this "solution" is vague and I see how it can get people to your conclusion. I do see how invasive it is, do you relize from my point of view the Catalys is just stating what it sees as the most likely result of Synthesis' s activation? There is no way it could be sure of the results of any action with 100% accuracy. I also don't see it making all DNA identical(though I acknowledg it as possible), but just modifying it so people start being able to easier understand eachother and synthetics. I also see myself empowering criminals and the like as well as already dangerous species such as Yahg and Krogan, but I'm also helping the good people out too so I am making just as much trouble as I'm solving. My view is not wrong or righ, moral or justified it's just what I believe is the lesser of 4 evils. Your choice is the same, wether more belive in one or the other is irrelevant. There is no right, just, or perfect ending.

If you, yourself, even doubt the Catalyt's own conclusions, why would you support its solution? Destroy is Anderson's choice. Control is TIM's choice. Synthesis is the Catalysts/Reaper's choice. In order to choose any side, you have to endorse their rationale and their understanding. By choosing Synthesis, you endorse the Catalyst and its understanding of the galaxy. To question its own explicit language is to merely question why you even chose Synthesis to start. Do you really understand the fully gravity of what Synthesis is? If you are unsure that the Catalyst understands, why would you then follow through with its recommendation?

[Iakus]

You would be misinterpreting then. There is a synergy happening on both sides. Organics are receiving a new DNA as well as more synthetic technology so they can be "perfected." Synthetics are receiving "understanding," essentially emotions and the capacity to care for others. The issue here is you do not realize how intrusive Synthesis actually is. This isn't simply all organics receiving a few synthetic upgrades. Their very fabric is being repurposed so that everybody gets along in harmony and peace.

I'm reminded of a Deep Space Nine episode, where Bashir confronted his father about having him "genetically enhanced" as a child without telling him.  He was absolutely furious:

 

"What difference does that make?"

"It's makes every difference! Because I'm different, can't you see? Jules Bashir died in that hospital, because you couldn't live with the shame of having a son who didn't measure up!"

[StealthGamer92]

If you, yourself, even doubt the Catalyt's own conclusions, why would you support its solution? Destroy is Anderson's choice. Control is TIM's choice. Synthesis is the Catalysts/Reaper's choice. In order to choose any side, you have to endorse their rationale and their understanding. By choosing Synthesis, you endorse the Catalyst and its understanding of the galaxy. To question its own explicit language is to merely question why you even chose Synthesis to start. Do you really understand the fully gravity of what Synthesis is? If you are unsure that the Catalyst understands, why would you then follow through with its recommendation?

That's just it I don't pick a side, I pick the option I feel best serves galactic survival. Destroy I believe would cause the galaxy to rip itself apart like Mad Max and other distopian futures, control is just a fancy infinite dictatorship under rule of reaper-Shep, refuse we'd die. Process of elimination leaves Synthesis as the lesser evil from my pov.

[Revan Reborn]

That's just it I don't pick a side, I pick the option I feel best serves galactic survival. Destroy I believe would cause the galaxy to rip itself apart like Mad Max and other distopian futures, control is just a fancy infinite dictatorship under rule of reaper-Shep, refuse we'd die. Process of elimination leaves Synthesis as the lesser evil from my pov.

Fair enough, I suppose. Although, I don't see how destroying the reapers and having the geth and EDI as collateral is so much worse than forced evolution of all synthetics and organics into a new form of reaper. At least with Destroy you know the galactic threat of the reapers is over for good. With Synthesis, you have no idea what kinds of repercussions will ensue due to choosing the Catalyst's choice. That's a gamble I'm not willing to make on the galaxy.

[StealthGamer92]

Fair enough, I suppose. Although, I don't see how destroying the reapers and having the geth and EDI as collateral is so much worse than forced evolution of all synthetics and organics into a new form of reaper. At least with Destroy you know the galactic threat of the reapers is over for good. With Synthesis, you have no idea what kinds of repercussions will ensue due to choosing the Catalyst's choice. That's a gamble I'm not willing to make on the galaxy.

This is just an elaboration on my view of destroy.

 

You don't just destroy AI's you screw up all technowledgy and even though all races might work together at first eventually the more hostile species would turn, I don't believe the Krogan and Turian alliance would last long at all even with Wrex there trying to keep his people under controll. I also don't see the food supplies lasting long enough for races that can't eat food from earth, which would lead to more conflict from the starving desperate races. In short I don't belive the galaxy could rebuild fast enough to stop it from ultimately killing itself to a major degree. I look at the ending more practically, because the games explanation for the rebuilding after Destroy is just as bad as how it depicts Synthesis as the hippy-verse.

[Revan Reborn]

This is just an elaboration on my view of destroy.

 

You don't just destroy AI's you screw up all technowledgy and even though all races might work together at first eventually the more hostile species would turn, I don't believe the Krogan and Turian alliance would last long at all even with Wrex there trying to keep his people under controll. I also don't see the food supplies lasting long enough for races that can't eat food from earth, which would lead to more conflict from the starving desperate races. In short I don't belive the galaxy could rebuild fast enough to stop it from ultimately killing itself to a major degree. I look at the ending more practically, because the games explanation for the rebuilding after Destroy is just as bad as how it depicts Synthesis as the hippy-verse.

Not really. Destroy EC is rather transparent that everything is rebuilt, including the Citadel. The only thing that is lost is EDI and the Geth. I think you are grossly over-estimating how terrible Destroy is for suppositions you are creating out of thin air. Nothing of what you say is supported in the ending nor do we have any reason to believe things would just become "worse" without cause. The biggest negative side of Destroy is losing the Geth and EDI and all technology being affected by the energy discharge from the Citadel. Again, we know technology is repaired rather quickly.

 

Also, if you obtain the perfect ending where Shepard lives, you better believe the hero of the galaxy would be incentive enough to keep everybody together. Wrex would keep the Krogan under control. Garrus would keep the Turians in check. Liara would pacify the Asari. Commander Kirrahe would bring the Salarians on board as well. Destroy would only encourage more unity as the galaxy works to rebuild itself, leading to new bonds and relationships formed across the galaxy.

[StealthGamer92]

Not really. Destroy EC is rather transparent that everything is rebuilt, including the Citadel. The only thing that is lost is EDI and the Geth. I think you are grossly over-estimating how terrible Destroy is for suppositions you are creating out of thin air. Nothing of what you say is supported in the ending nor do we have any reason to believe things would just become "worse" without cause. The biggest negative side of Destroy is losing the Geth and EDI and all technology being affected by the energy discharge from the Citadel. Again, we know technology is repaired rather quickly.

 

Also, if you obtain the perfect ending where Shepard lives, you better believe the hero of the galaxy would be incentive enough to keep everybody together. Wrex would keep the Krogan under control. Garrus would keep the Turians in check. Liara would pacify the Asari. Commander Kirrahe would bring the Salarians on board as well. Destroy would only encourage more unity as the galaxy works to rebuild itself, leading to new bonds and relationships formed across the galaxy.

I just don't believe the ideal destroy where everything is rebuilt is any more believeable outragous than Synthesis. I said at the end of my statemen I look at all of the ending in a more realistic way since I see the game explained endings as "stargazer storybook" endings made to look good so it doesn't give the kid nightmares. So one day I sat down and thought about ME and all I know about it's lore and what I thought were realistic consequences and results from the idea of what each ending says happens the storrybook ending.

[Revan Reborn]

I just don't believe the ideal destroy where everything is rebuilt is any more believeable outragous than Synthesis. I said at the end of my statemen I look at all of the ending in a more realistic way since I see the game explained endings as "stargazer storybook" endings made to look good so it doesn't give the kid nightmares. So one day I sat down and thought about ME and all I know about it's lore and what I thought were realistic consequences and results from the idea of what each ending says happens the storrybook ending.

Well, you are agreeing you are just fabricating scenarios in your head, which is fine. I am basing my judgment on the worth of each choice on what BioWare has presented and established. Destroy is the best choice hands down. Now, if you want to bring in outside information and disregard what BioWare has written, that's your prerogative. However, based on the game and the Extended Cut, Destroy is the most true and honest choice with regard to the entire trilogy.

[StealthGamer92]

Well, you are agreeing you are just fabricating scenarios in your head, which is fine. I am basing my judgment on the worth of each choice on what BioWare has presented and established. Destroy is the best choice hands down. Now, if you want to bring in outside information and disregard what BioWare has written, that's your prerogative. However, based on the game and the Extended Cut, Destroy is the most true and honest choice with regard to the entire trilogy.

Bioware are the ones who wrote it as a childs story told by a "stargazer" in the first place, then had the stargazer say "some details have been lost to time" so I am completely justified in looking at it my way.

[teh DRUMPf!!]

Please show me where I said that.
 
EDI Was.  Always.  Alive.  Synthesis.  Does.  Not. Change.  That.
 
Synthesis is garbage.  It's not needed to make EDI "alive"  Nor the geth.  Feel-good space magic is not needed.  Shepard jumping into the energy beam and disintegrating is pointless.  Shepard dies for nothing because EDI was already alive.

 
EDI may have been alive before Synthesis, but she is not alive in Destroy.
 
 

Sure there is. It's know as deoxyribonucleic acid (DNA). The very fabric of what makes us who we are is what makes all the races in Mass Effect unique. Guess what Synthesis does? It breaks down Shepard's being in order to create a new DNA for all organics to share. To not see the homogeneity and conformity in all organic species merely shows you weren't paying attention in Biology.

Beats not paying attention in Biology AND Literature.

The Catalyst's line goes "A new... DNA." What's the pause/hesitation there for? If he was plainly stating what would happen, there would be no need for it, but it's there. In truth, lots of words are thrown around in the Catalyst conversation that have no scientific value at all, such as: ascend, essence, organic-energy. It is far more poetry than any hard science. Not, mind you, very skillful writing, but I think I can get what they are (poorly) trying to say.

When pressed, the Catalyst goes on to explain that the change will take place: to alter the matrix of organic life and to imbue synthetic life with understanding. This does not indicate "new DNA," my friend. No amount of genetic rewrite will suddenly grant you superpowers like flight or thermal vision, nor suddenly grant you understanding.

 

Also, I know what a strand of DNA looks like, and it is nothing like whatever the hell the Synthesis epilogue begins with showing. In fact, one of the images had the distinct look of a neuron. That would actually make sense. I find it more likely that Synthesis has some effect on the organic brain and nervous system than anything else.

[Revan Reborn]

 
EDI may have been alive before Synthesis, but she is not alive in Destroy.
 
 

Beats not paying attention in Biology AND Literature.

The Catalyst's line goes "A new... DNA." What's the pause/hesitation there for? If he was plainly stating what would happen, there would be no need for it, but it's there. In truth, lots of words are thrown around in the Catalyst conversation that have no scientific value at all, such as: ascend, essence, organic-energy. It is far more poetry than any hard science. Not, mind you, very skillful writing, but I think I can get what they are (poorly) trying to say.

When pressed, the Catalyst goes on to explain that the change will take place: to alter the matrix of organic life and to imbue synthetic life with understanding. This does not indicate "new DNA," my friend. No amount of genetic rewrite will suddenly grant you superpowers like flight or thermal vision, nor suddenly grant you understanding.

 

Also, I know what a strand of DNA looks like, and it is nothing like whatever the hell the Synthesis epilogue begins with showing. In fact, one of the images had the distinct look of a neuron. That would actually make sense. I find it more likely that Synthesis has some effect on the organic brain and nervous system than anything else.

The BioWare writing team is made up of English majors, not Natural Science majors. Their own lack of scientific theory in no way invalidates the point of what the Catalyst is conveying. When it says "A new... DNA," it seemed to be the AI was trying to translate and rationalize in a way Shepard would understand. You have to realize this is an intelligence that has been around for millions, if not billions of years. It is addressing Shepard in a way that gives the Catalyt's words meaning. As Sovereign stated at Virmire, the motivations for what the reapers were doing was far beyond the comprehension of man or any other organic.

 

What you fail to realize that Synthesis is space magic. It's impossible to completely re-write the DNA of all living things with a mere discharge of energy. It's more ridiculous to rationalize that organics will be perfected with more synthetic parts and that synthetics will gain "understanding." This is the poor execution and writing on BioWare's part, but the message is still intact. The DNA argument hasn't been invalidated, as it's the most crucial element of what Synthesis does, which is why the Catalyst said it early on.

 

Again, Mass Effect is science fiction with elements of fantasy. It's not real. Trying to rationalize something is leading you astray. You can only take what the developers and writers give you. If they say it's explicitly something, that is what is happening, no matter how unreasonable it is. You cannot headcanon your own understanding in order to disprove my argument. Your point was a failure before you even started.

[Iakus]

 
EDI may have been alive before Synthesis, but she is not alive in Destroy.
 
 

And that's why both Synthesis and Destroy suck.

[CosmicGnosis]

As I've stated many times, the main reason why I prefer Synthesis over the other two is because it is the ultimate rejection of the Reapers' Lovecraftian mystique; the Reapers can be known, and that knowledge will help civilization, and not destroy it, as Lovecraft would have you believe. Lovecraft was a champion of ignorance, and celebrated fear of the unknown and condemned those who wished to understand the universe.

 

In Mass Effect, the Reapers represent the terrifying unknown, of forces beyond our comprehension that control out lives. Synthesis invalidates the Lovecraftian Reapers in the grandest way. And Synthesis is better than Control because it gives that knowledge to everybody; in Control, Shepard is the only one who has it, and continues the present "tyranny of synthetics" (that's right, folks; as Javik says, synthetics conquered the galaxy long ago, in the form of the Reapers; it already happened). Synthesis is the pinnacle of existence because it's a unity of the organic and synthetic, both domains of life in harmony. This existence surpasses even the Reapers, for they were merely synthetics that had subjugated organics. It's actually the greatest expression of free will, granting you complete control over your destiny. 

[themikefest]

And that's why both Synthesis and Destroy suck.

synthesis yes, destroy no.

[thruaglassdarkly]

The best ending is the one that's best for you as an individual player.  Regardless of what suited the writers most, if they wanted to impose a particular outcome on everyone, they could have.  Because they gave us the choice of three outcomes (and some variance within at least one outcome), canon does not really exist.  So pick your favorite and stick with that.  If you do not like anyone of them, you can always end the game after the Citidel DLC (which can be pretty satisfying in its own way). If you hate the entire game...well then I'm not sure why youre here, because all the arguments against have been made and I'm sure that feedback has already been processed by Bioware. Its sort of silly to argue about which is objectively better because it is not an objective situation. There is no magic box giving us three options to solve all of the problems in the world. If we are going to pretend like we have one, then we each might as well choose the option that makes us feel the best at the end of the game.  

[StealthGamer92]

The best ending is the one that's best for you as an individual player.  Regardless of what suited the writers most, if they wanted to impose a particular outcome on everyone, they could have.  Because they gave us the choice of three outcomes (and some variance within at least one outcome), canon does not really exist.  So pick your favorite and stick with that.  If you do not like anyone of them, you can always end the game after the Citidel DLC (which can be pretty satisfying in its own way). If you hate the entire game...well then I'm not sure why youre here, because all the arguments against have been made and I'm sure that feedback has already been processed by Bioware. Its sort of silly to argue about which is objectively better because it is not an objective situation. There is no magic box giving us three options to solve all of the problems in the world. If we are going to pretend like we have one, then we each might as well choose the option that makes us feel the best at the end of the game.  

But I'm haveing fun! Being told I'm wrong or ignorant or I don't know what I'm talking about is always fun to me. I like when people refuse to acknowledge what you just spelled out, it makes the fun last longer.

[Revan Reborn]

As I've stated many times, the main reason why I prefer Synthesis over the other two is because it is the ultimate rejection of the Reapers' Lovecraftian mystique; the Reapers can be known, and that knowledge will help civilization, and not destroy it, as Lovecraft would have you believe. Lovecraft was a champion of ignorance, and celebrated fear of the unknown and condemned those who wished to understand the universe.

 

In Mass Effect, the Reapers represent the terrifying unknown, of forces beyond our comprehension that control out lives. Synthesis invalidates the Lovecraftian Reapers in the grandest way. And Synthesis is better than Control because it gives that knowledge to everybody; in Control, Shepard is the only one who has it, and continues the present "tyranny of synthetics" (that's right, folks; as Javik says, synthetics conquered the galaxy long ago, in the form of the Reapers; it already happened). Synthesis is the pinnacle of existence because it's a unity of the organic and synthetic, both domains of life in harmony. This existence surpasses even the Reapers, for they were merely synthetics that had subjugated organics. It's actually the greatest expression of free will, granting you complete control over your destiny. 

Never have I heard more hyperbolic nonsense than this, no offense. However, as the above poster stated, whatever works best for you is fine.

 

I, and I'm fairly certain many others, never came to this conclusion. Synthesis was certainly supposed to be the ideal "utopian" ending, but failed on a variety of levels due to inconsistencies with the series, poor writing, and awkward execution. Again, choose what you like. There is no "canon," ending, so people are free to pick whatever works best for them.

[thruaglassdarkly]

But I'm haveing fun! Being told I'm wrong or ignorant or I don't know what I'm talking about is always fun to me. I like when people refuse to acknowledge what you just spelled out, it makes the fun last longer.

 

well..then...in that case I hope you brought popcorn.  The intensity of emotions this game and moment continue to engender never ceases to amaze me.  I think the people protest too much.

[CosmicGnosis]

Never have I heard more hyperbolic nonsense than this, no offense. However, as the above poster stated, whatever works best for you is fine.

 

I, and I'm fairly certain many others, never came to this conclusion. Synthesis was certainly supposed to be the ideal "utopian" ending, but failed on a variety of levels due to inconsistencies with the series, poor writing, and awkward execution. Again, choose what you like. There is no "canon," ending, so people are free to pick whatever works best for them.

How is it hyperbolic? The ending clearly states that everyone has "unlimited access to knowledge", that everyone can now live the lives they have wished for, all the characters are shown doing the same exact things that they do in the other endings, the Reapers have been integrated into galactic civilization, etc. 

 

Destroy, as Ieldra stated earlier in this thread, seems to support a reactionary ideology, one that is concerned with protecting organic purity from the taint of machines (a theme that is somewhat prominent in ME1). Synthesis has its ethical problems, some that I suspect were unintentional and a consequence of bad writing, but I'm quite pleased with the central themes of the ending: that categories like "organic" and "synthetic" are ultimately meaningless, for we are all living beings, and that the unknown can be known, and with that knowledge comes prosperity and mastery over one's destiny.