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[Alya_]

Everything feels much more personal, intimate between Hawke and the companions. I never really connected with my Inquisitor as much as I did with my Sarcastic Hawke

 

 

While at the end of DAI, I was like: "Really? This is it? Nothing more?"

 

 

I was grinning and slow clapping when I realized Solas fooled us all, but that was it

 

 

I would have loved more scenes between the companions interacting together,

 

 

i SO agree with you, what i loved most about bioware games was the sense of camaraderie, and i didn't feel it in DA:I

but then again i have the banter bug.. issue.. whatever they call it now, so that may have added to it

*sigh* 

[C0uncil0rTev0s]

And, people, DAII had Merrill. 

A cute kitten in the vast and picturesque Kirkwall gardens. A shy, yet very stubborn girl. A cautious, yet very impulsive girl. Someone that tries to look independent... even if she realises she's not. And the voice. And the Varric-Merrill and Sebastian-Merrill banter. And that lovely armour. And that story with a demon in a mirror.

 

Think what you like, people, but there's no character that deep and that close to me in DA:I... Even Dorian isn't that good, and he's the best written character in all the game.

[Dobby]

While I played DA:I I couldn't help but think that I actually missed and liked DA2 more. I played DA2 about 4 times. Inquisition, I couldn't bother getting past Haven on my second try. 

[Scofield]

I enjoyed DA2 when it was released, glad your enjoying it now

[Saphiron123]

The truth is DA2 isn't a bad game. They made a few bad design choices such as recycling the crap out of the maps and using waves of enemies which got a little old, but it's a solid game.

Smaller in scale then origins, but it's definitely in the spirit of dragon age and in some ways it improved on origins in a technical sense.

DAI isn't a dragon age game. No tactics, no attribute points, story isn't the main focus and is shorter then DAO or DA2. Qunari are pretty, politics got in the way of storytelling, it was too big a departure.

[VickVeel]

i agree with op, dragon age II was better than inquisition

[aphelion4]

I can see that objectively DAI is the "better" game overall, but I also found myself loving DA2 far more for the character interaction and Hawke. I tried to play through DAI a second time but the combat was such a bore to slog through and I just couldn't do it (limited spell selection,ridiculously long cooldowns, crappy tactics, etc). Mages were way more fun and satisfying to play in the first two games.

[Lilithor]

Even people I never thought would see the light are opening their eyes. Thank god.

[Lumix19]

And, people, DAII had Merrill. 
A cute kitten in the vast and picturesque Kirkwall gardens. A shy, yet very stubborn girl. A cautious, yet very impulsive girl. Someone that tries to look independent... even if she realises she's not. And the voice. And the Varric-Merrill and Sebastian-Merrill banter. And that lovely armour. And that story with a demon in a mirror.
 
Think what you like, people, but there's no character that deep and that close to me in DA:I... Even Dorian isn't that good, and he's the best written character in all the game.

Merrill is great, "the Maker wants you to be elves?", just cracks me up. I love all the companions really. I agree OP, DA2 has a great feeling that sadly wasn't replicated with Inquisition. That said I do love Inquisition but I love 2 more.

[DirkJake]

Obviously people's preference is different, and for me I enjoy three games almost equally for different reasons.

 

If I want a more personal story, I'll go play DA2.

If I feel like exploring Thedas and enjoying scenery, I'll go play DAI.

If I want a more tactical and slower combat, I'll go play DAO.

 

And I appreciate all these games and the differences between them. I am glad Bioware decided to make them different, rather than just sticking with their old formula.

[TaHol]

I have said this 10 times before, and I will say it again: Biggest problem DA2 had was it's name. That is why it got so much bashing. If it would have been advertised as DA: Champion and as a spin-off from DAO, it would have seen as it is, a very good game with some design flaws and too little developement time.

 

After DA2 got all it's DLC:s, it has been my favorite DA-game. I absolutely adore Hawke, that is one reason. I like how story carries the game. I really like the combat. I feel thet NOTHING of what I loved in DA2 carried to DAI, but I have said so many times wot I think of DAI, I won't go there anymore.

 

I so wish they would have developed DA2-concept further and made DAI from that, instead of abandoning it as a mistake and beginning to copy other companies. Well, that gave them GOTY so obviously being unoriginal and uncreative pays off.

[C0uncil0rTev0s]

Merrill is great, "the Maker wants you to be elves?", just cracks me up. I love all the companions really. I agree OP, DA2 has a great feeling that sadly wasn't replicated with Inquisition. That said I do love Inquisition but I love 2 more.

 

"Well, we don't get into many details but we're pretty sure it's the humans' fault" - line that made me giggling a lot, too. And one for the shiny Vael armour

[Teddie Sage]

I read somewhere that at one point it was called Dragon Age: Kirkwall or Dragon Age: Rise of the Champion but they dropped the name just to call it Dragon Age 2. 

[Paul E Dangerously]

I have said this 10 times before, and I will say it again: Biggest problem DA2 had was it's name. That is why it got so much bashing. If it would have been advertised as DA: Champion and as a spin-off from DAO, it would have seen as it is, a very good game with some design flaws and too little developement time.

 

After DA2 got all it's DLC:s, it has been my favorite DA-game. I absolutely adore Hawke, that is one reason. I like how story carries the game. I really like the combat. I feel thet NOTHING of what I loved in DA2 carried to DAI, but I have said so many times wot I think of DAI, I won't go there anymore.

 

I so wish they would have developed DA2-concept further and made DAI from that, instead of abandoning it as a mistake and beginning to copy other companies. Well, that gave them GOTY so obviously being unoriginal and uncreative pays off.

 

 

The thing that drives me up a wall is the fact that Bioware does this when things work, too. How much about Origins made it into the sequel? The origins sure as hell didn't. The more expansive, flexible character system didn't. The more sensible treasure placement really didn't.

 

I like part of what DA2 tried to do. The more responsive combat and the different skill trees are a great thing.

 

DAI just seems to have learned "people hate recycled maps" and that's it.

[PhroXenGold]

DA2 really just needed a few months more development time. It did a hell of a lot of things right (the basis of the story, setting, characters and combat were all superior to its predecessor) but was marred by clearly being rushed out to meet overly tight deadlines, meaning that basis never completely reached its potential.

[AWTEW]

There was an interview with the writers and designers before the release of DA2. David Gaider or Mike Laidlaw said that "Hawks is not just a hero washed up on shore, he has a family, a detailed background etc..."

 

Saidly DAI is a step back in this regard too. But who cares? Game of the year   .............

 

Paid Game of the year..

I'm also very disappointed on how Hawke was handled with DAI, as a huge Hawke fan. I liked their presence, but it didn't feel right to see them and not control them at all. 

 

Or default Femhawkes hair..

[Teddie Sage]

I think the only thing that really bugged me about DA2 was the lack of an Orsino introduction. It's a shame his questline got cancelled in the last game. Something could have been implanted in the DLCs but instead we were just assuming our Hawke already knew about him by the end of act 3. It's also odd when they first recognize him in the Dream Sequence from Feynriel's nightmares. 

[Elfyoth]

Mark my words, when DA4 will come out. You will say it on DAI. 

[MattH]

Agreed OP. The handful of things DA2 does better than DAI, it does a hell of a lot better. I honestly don't care much about any of my Inquisitors, I'd happily swap their place in the fade for Hawke's. You get to know Hawke. When it comes to his family, his friends, his betrayals by Isabela and Anders. You feel for Hawke. Your companions feel like friends, people who hang out with each other and have established lives that continue when you aren't there. They have their own agendas, they don't stand around waiting for you to drag them off into the wilderness.

 

Inquisition looks beautiful, it's customization is great, it's variety of areas is stunning and the combat is definitely a step in the right direction, but the companion interaction and the player character's immersion into the world, feels like a stale, dry biscuit. And when it comes down to it, I'd rather explore the same cave 10 times over with Hawke's friends, than cross all of southern Thedas with the Inquisitor's employees.

[lil yonce]

[snip] And when it comes down to it, I'd rather explore the same cave 10 times over with Hawke's friends, than cross all of southern Thedas with the Inquisitor's employees.

I lol'ed at this. DAI's companions do feel like employees. I relate to a few of them on a deeper level than that, but I definitely don't feel the same way about the overall cast as I do DA2's.

[London]

DA2 is my favorite of all of them. They really did feel like friends and I liked watching their development over time. It is the only DA game I completed in its entirety more than once.

[Steelcan]

and I can't enjoy DA2 at all, the mind bogglingly stupid Acts 2 and 3, the characters I want to fire out of a cannon into the Deep Roads, the plotlines that are either brought up out of nowhere and forgotten about (looking at you Wardens, Flemeth, and the Primeval Thaig) or intended as sequel baiting

 

and that's ignoring the reused environments and extremely lackluster combat

 

 

then there's more personal complaints like not liking the art style

[jedidotflow]

I considered giving DA2 another chance but then I remembered how templars can drop from the ceiling in waves and decided not to.

[Akrabra]

DAII is so far down on my Bioware list that it will probably never be played again. The dialogue is awkward and the paraphrasing and conversation tree is a disaster. The companions are not at all compelling to me, except Varric and Aveline. The combat system is broken, and not have no tactic value. The time skipping doesn't work at all, it was just an excuse to push time forward for the blight to have settled and the world to encounter new problems. Could have been done better with more time ofc. 

 

I would like to see a more personal story from Bioware again, but it has to be done right. Mass Effect 2 to me is the best ME game for that reason. It lacks a main plot, but it does the companions and Shepards growth so well. And its dark, and it feels dark. DAII was lackluster in its darkness. Hawke experiences so much loss and the player can't react to it. The only scene in the game made me feel was Aveline's story about her father, as related to Hawke losing her mother. That was done right. Then Hawke just shrugs it off and runs around the town at night killing people dropping from buildings.

 

DAII has some redeeming qualites there is no doubt about it and if it had just been an expansion or an unsual long DLC it would be great, or atleast been in production 2 more years so we could have a finished product. But it is an unfinished product with way to many flaws. Part of beeing a gamer is taking the good with the bad and beeing able to ignore the bad for the sake of what is good. I can't do that with DAII.

 

Seems like i am very pissy today and maybe i am, but still this game brings it out in me. 

[TaHol]

Mark my words, when DA4 will come out. You will say it on DAI. 

Not possible. At least for me. Unless they made it to platformer/SIMS-romance edition-hybrid, one button for the combat (pew pew)...omg actually that is a very realistic scenario. Damn now I gave them ideas.