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[Lukas Trevelyan]

I'm really not big on twitter, but how many hashtag does it take for something to start trending? 

 

It wasn't a hashtag trend, just the word Varric.

It needed to be mentioned in tweets ~10k times within a small period to start trending.

[KaiserShep]

A character who is really tied to one of the conflicts in the game comes to mind, since they would be taking Varric's "mandatory companion" slot so is always able to contribute. Like for example, and even though I would hate the character, an Orlesian Chevalier. They could have come with some noble who went to the talks, since we know there were some, and after the noble was killed tries to help stop the Breach and join the Inquisition. They would be able to give us a lot of information about Orlais and what was happening there, rather than the entire OCW only be a single mission and a loose premise for a map. 

 

Meanwhile Varric doesn't so anything like this. That'd be fine if he was an optional character like the others, but he is a mandatory character. The only other mandatory characters are Cassandra and Solas, and they add a lot more to the game than Varric does. 

 

The problem here is that a new character is automatically detached from the red lyrium and Corypheus narrative that Varric is tied to. Had there been a temporary companion in DA2: Legacy in the same manner that Tallis was for Mark of the Assassin, then there would be a stronger argument for having this person appear as part of the inner circle for Inquisition. But this is just a basic concept of a possible character whose motivations and personality lack any definition. This hypothetical character has no more potential to do more for the story than Varric did, but also lacks the tie to Hawke and has zero knowledge of Corypheus, since the only people that were there to witness him were the now dead Wardens, Larius or Janeka, who became Cory's escape vehicle, Varric, Hawke and potentially two other companions, some of whom can be killed later in the game. 

 

As for Solas, it's not really a fair comparison, since Solas is basically part of a much bigger plot that we've yet to determine, and he may potentially be a villain. Ultimately, his mandatory companion status serves to give this more of an impact, but in this game, Morrigan steals his thunder when he would have contributed the most, and the only time he's actually needed for anything was to determine that the mark can seal rifts.

[Uccio]

I have no objection of Varric being in the game. I just don´t like what they did with his character. He of all people seemed to come out as a critical thinker with a twist of sarcams. Now, some kind of andrastian whiner. Gone are the witty comments of DA2.

[Panda]

I enjoyed him more in DAI than in DA2 quite suprisingly though and was glad that he was there.

 

I think red lyrium and Corypheus as main villain ties him in the plot at least in some extent.

[Potato Cat]

I did not enjoy Varric at all in DA2. I didn't find him funny or at all compelling and the whole 'bromance' with Hawke felt terribly forced to me.

However, that all changed in DAI. I still don't find Varric himself that funny, but his presence does lead to some humourous scenes, mostly with Cassandra. He seemed much more real and relateable and I was actually looking forward to content with him. Unfortunately, there wasn't all that much of it, it seemed. Even with the Wicked Grace scene, it was more about the other people in that scene. He really is just there. He doesn't get to do enough, I feel, other than introduce Hawke, which seemed more like a retcon of the DA2 ending to me. I know, I know, it's explained and everything and while it was a suitable explanation, imo, it wasn't all that satisfying considering the cliffhanger we got. I noticed a similar problem with Vivienne, a character who doesn't even get to wear her own clothes to the Winter Palace, never mind get her own side quest there like Sera, (seriously, Sera gets a Winter Palace quest and not Viv?!). It is a shame since they were amongst my favourites in DAI, (Viv being the number one all time favourite from the whole franchise).

[AWTEW]

Because he wants to kiss Cassandra....

[Lumix19]

I did not enjoy Varric at all in DA2. I didn't find him funny or at all compelling and the whole 'bromance' with Hawke felt terribly forced to me.
However, that all changed in DAI. I still don't find Varric himself that funny, but his presence does lead to some humourous scenes, mostly with Cassandra. He seemed much more real and relateable and I was actually looking forward to content with him. Unfortunately, there wasn't all that much of it, it seemed. Even with the Wicked Grace scene, it was more about the other people in that scene. He really is just there. He doesn't get to do enough, I feel, other than introduce Hawke, which seemed more like a retcon of the DA2 ending to me. I know, I know, it's explained and everything and while it was a suitable explanation, imo, it wasn't all that satisfying considering the cliffhanger we got. I noticed a similar problem with Vivienne, a character who doesn't even get to wear her own clothes to the Winter Palace, never mind get her own side quest there like Sera, (seriously, Sera gets a Winter Palace quest and not Viv?!). It is a shame since they were amongst my favourites in DAI, (Viv being the number one all time favourite from the whole franchise).

Vivienne was doing her own thing at the Winter Palace, increasing her power, creating advantages, basically playing the Game.

[Addai]

I have no objection of Varric being in the game. I just don´t like what they did with his character. He of all people seemed to come out as a critical thinker with a twist of sarcams. Now, some kind of andrastian whiner. Gone are the witty comments of DA2.

I think he's just really bitter and sad about what happened in Kirkwall and with red lyrium. He feels responsible for unleashing a lot of suffering, and this is hard on a guy who genuinely cares about people. I still thought he had good friendship moments like the hug and Wicked Grace. And some humor like running circles around Cassandra. This time he takes Cole under his wing like he did Merrill before. All in all his involement was good IMO. He didn't need to be the tutorial buddy this time, that's Cassandra.

[Killdren88]

Same reason Leliana, Morrigan and Cullen are back. Fan Girls/Boys.

[JuGonzo]

It's funny how the writers declined to made Varric a LI because "we didn't want to spoil the character" but for me Varric was totally spoiled in this game: a whiner, useless, with a stupid personal mission and a complete doormat for Bianca.

[Addai]

It's funny how the writers declined to made Varric a LI because "we didn't want to spoil the character" but for me Varric was totally spoiled in this game: a whiner, useless, with a stupid personal mission and a complete doormat for Bianca.

When did they say that?

[JuGonzo]

When did they say that?

They said after the rage when the fans found out Varric was not a LI

[In Exile]

Now don't get me wrong I like Varric. But he did not fit into this game at all. His whole reason for existing in the plot was to introduce Hawke ( who also didn't really add anything). Otherwise it made little sence for him to be there. You couldn't even really become friends with him this time around. He is just there...

 

He's a fan favourite, but then they portrayed him in such a way that removed all of the things that made him super likeable. 

[jedidotflow]

Because we're seriously lacking in smartass dwarves.

On an unrelated note, I miss Sigrun.
Also, Harding for DA4 companion and romance.

[jedidotflow]

As for Solas, it's not really a fair comparison, since Solas is basically part of a much bigger plot that we've yet to determine, and he may potentially be a villain. Ultimately, his mandatory companion status serves to give this more of an impact, but in this game, Morrigan steals his thunder when he would have contributed the most, and the only time he's actually needed for anything was to determine that the mark can seal rifts.

I kept waiting for him to drop truth bombs at the temple; instead, he acts like a paperweight.

[In Exile]

I kept waiting for him to drop truth bombs at the temple; instead, he acts like a paperweight.

He did drop a lot of truth bombs. He just doesn't do it very openly.

[jedidotflow]

He did drop a lot of truth bombs. He just doesn't do it very openly.

I just wanted more from him. He should've commented every single time that Morrigan said something, as well as when I ask him to speak to Abelas. I'm also still bitter that he didn't want me to drink from the Well but didn't bother to tell me why.

[jedidotflow]

He did drop a lot of truth bombs. He just doesn't do it very openly.

I just wanted more from him. He should've commented every single time that Morrigan said something, as well as when I ask him to speak to Abelas. I'm also still bitter that he didn't want me to drink from the Well but didn't bother to tell me why.

[Uccio]

I think he's just really bitter and sad about what happened in Kirkwall and with red lyrium. He feels responsible for unleashing a lot of suffering, and this is hard on a guy who genuinely cares about people. I still thought he had good friendship moments like the hug and Wicked Grace. And some humor like running circles around Cassandra. This time he takes Cole under his wing like he did Merrill before. All in all his involement was good IMO. He didn't need to be the tutorial buddy this time, that's Cassandra.

 

That would kind of explain it, though I would still have Varric from DA2 out of this one. 

[Creator Limbs]

You know who would've been a better rogue option to bring back?

 

Zevran.

 

There are several ways I can think of that working him into Inquisition would work, and it's something I'd have liked to see.

[DarkKnightHolmes]

I know, God forbid we have one character in the series that isn't a bat **** crazy emotional train wreck that players can actually identify with right?

 

Considering his choice in women, I'd say he's pretty crazy.

 

I'd say Nathaniel is the most sane companion we get.

[Junebug]

Wasn't he already with Cassandra to be interrogated when this was happening? At least, I got that impression. Plus, he's part of the reason all of this began.

[In Exile]

I think he's just really bitter and sad about what happened in Kirkwall and with red lyrium. He feels responsible for unleashing a lot of suffering, and this is hard on a guy who genuinely cares about people. I still thought he had good friendship moments like the hug and Wicked Grace. And some humor like running circles around Cassandra. This time he takes Cole under his wing like he did Merrill before. All in all his involement was good IMO. He didn't need to be the tutorial buddy this time, that's Cassandra.

I actually think that Bioware's portrayel is really clever. In DA2 Varric is the narrator. He gets all the quips in part because he's telling a story about himself, and while he's quite true to his own character he knows, as he puts it, how to bullshit. When he's with you Varric is not as much of a deadpan snarker but the quips and sarcasm is still there.

Really there are two major changes from DA2: Varric is more of a downer and he's not trying to be your friend. Which is what creates the issue. Lots of people like him because he's fun and always willing to back you up almost unconditionally. In DAI that changes quite a lot and the edge to him creates a very different perception.