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On how blood magic could have been implemented in Inquisition


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#76
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Yeah, that will work. It's not like the rest of the entire Inquisition won't find out. Are you stupid?

 

I edited my comment for more. They need the Inquisitor to win so they would just have to suck it up.



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I edited my comment for more. They need the Inquisitor to win so they would just have to suck it up.

 

Or they would put you in chains and let you out only to seal breaches on pain of death, or make you tranquil and make you use your mark at their command. Don't think that you're untouchable just because they need you. You don't need to be free to be usable.


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Consider that Envy can succefully take over the Inqusition and implent its vision in, I have a hard time thinking that a blood mage couldn't manage to stay hidden or find followers. Envy's vision weren't subtle.

 

The Worlds last hope sort of gurantee it. It would just mean a power loss and perhaps overworking Josie/Leliana to manage the PR. (I can see them spinning something about it totally not being blood magic, but some effect of Andrastes gift and it would be difficult for anyone outside of the inner circle to prove)

 

(And I would welcome a chance to get rid of Cassandra and Vivienne.)

 

What I really Wonder about is what effect it would have on the Anchor. Blood magic is rooted in reality and the Anchor in the Fade. And if Solas avoid it because it weakens the connecting to the Fade, I tend to believe it is a warning to take serious. Whatever Solas is his expertise on the Fade cannot be denied.



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Or they would put you in chains and let you out only to seal breaches on pain of death, or make you tranquil and make you use your mark at their command. Don't think that you're untouchable just because they need you. You don't need to be free to be usable.

 

Well considering my Inquisitor can solo kill Dragons on nightmare by themself, I don't think a bunch of faceless Inquisitor red shirts are gonna scare my character.



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Well considering my Inquisitor can solo kill Dragons on nightmare by themself, I don't think a bunch of faceless Inquisitor red shirts are gonna scare my character.

 

Red shirts? Yeah, everyone that isn't Varric and Cole are definitely red shirts that stand no chance when all trying to kill you... Sarcasm. Not to mention, good luck taking on your entire army that is said to rival the armies of other nations on your lonesome. You think your Inquisitor could possibly take hundreds of troops on at once? Yeah, good luck.



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You want to know how it would go, you using blood magic? Look at this cut dialogue from Origins.

 

 

 

And that my friend is called roleplaying. Something DAI so painfully lacks.


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And that my friend is called roleplaying. Something DAI so painfully lacks.

I have noticed this tendency with Bioware's two biggest rpg series: Mass Effect and Dragon Age. Each game in the series seems to have less role-playing than the last.



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Yeah, that will work. It's not like the rest of the entire Inquisition won't find out. Are you stupid?

 

How many of them can tell who is a blood mage?



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How many of them can tell who is a blood mage?

 

You just need a single party member to know for it to slip out to everyone. Soldiers love to gossip.



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I have noticed this tendency with Bioware's two biggest rpg series: Mass Effect and Dragon Age. Each game in the series seems to have less role-playing than the last.

 

Indeed, makes me actually sad.

 

You just need a single party member to know for it to slip out to everyone. Soldiers love to gossip.

 

So what prevents the chantry clerics opposing the Inq from starting the rumor and telling all ignorant peasants he/she is a blood mage, even if he/she isn´t?



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And people have a hard time differenting between necromancy and blood magic (this is canon) so the rumour is propely already out with a necromancer mage. And if the mage is a Lavellan like mine there is also rumours out about human sacrifices.

 

The faithful is not going to take blood magic rumour any more serious than they alreay take all the other rumours, and weird powers will just be seen as another effect of being the Herald of Andraste.



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Like it'll matter.

 

The Herald of Andraste will always be depicted in history as a human (female?) warrior who was blessed by the Maker and had all human companions and a dwarf



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Wasn't the reason they didn't put Blood Mage in because they didn't know how to balance it in the game? They said blood magic has mind control & other OP elements to it as well.So, I am cool with it not being in Inquisition. They did say they will continue to look for ways to implement it with being balanced.If DA4 don't have then I completely beg for it but if they can balance it out with other specs then that would be awesome.

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The faithful is not going to take blood magic rumour any more serious than they alreay take all the other rumours, and weird powers will just be seen as another effect of being the Herald of Andraste.

 

Except the entire organization turning on its leader will make the rumors actually valid.



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Except the entire organization turning on its leader will make the rumors actually valid.

No one in the inner circle would consider it a worthwhile sacrifice to throw away the Herald of Andraste just because of a choice of magical specialization. They're all too practical. I mean, the Grey Wardens went all-out with blood magic and you can still have them ally with the Inquisition.



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No one in the inner circle would consider it a worthwhile sacrifice to throw away the Herald of Andraste just because of a choice of magical specialization. They're all too practical. I mean, the Grey Wardens went all-out with blood magic and you can still have them ally with the Inquisition.

 

You're right, they are too practical. Hence why they would keep you locked up and only brought out in chains to seal rifts, or made tranquil and only used as a tool to seal rifts. They wouldn't follow you.



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Wasn't the reason they didn't put Blood Mage in because they didn't know how to balance it in the game? They said blood magic has mind control & other OP elements to it as well.So, I am cool with it not being in Inquisition. They did say they will continue to look for ways to implement it with being balanced.If DA4 don't have then I completely beg for it but if they can balance it out with other specs then that would be awesome.


It was because it would require a disproportionate amount of effort to give it realistic story consequences, like they wanted to do with all of the specs.

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What consequences those are? I don't recall any except companions commenting on it.

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Bind Vivienne, kill Cassandra and tell Josie to shut up. Culen is too busy crying about being a junkie to stop anything so everything will be fine.

Anta baka?

 

Why don't you pledge allegiance to Corypheus then. 



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What consequences those are? I don't recall any except companions commenting on it.


They felt that those consequences would have larger implications in the case of blood magic, and that addressing those implications would be too much trouble for a small reward.

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You're right, they are too practical. Hence why they would keep you locked up and only brought out in chains to seal rifts, or made tranquil and only used as a tool to seal rifts. They wouldn't follow you.

And if they tried, I would kill myself first... or, perhaps, deliberately become an abomination. And then they'd be stuck.



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And if they tried, I would kill myself first... or, perhaps, deliberately become an abomination. And then they'd be stuck.

 

Well, you've certainly got the mental aspect of Blood Magic down pat.



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And if they tried, I would kill myself first... or, perhaps, deliberately become an abomination. And then they'd be stuck.

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Well, you've certainly got the mental aspect of Blood Magic down pat.

Forgive me, but learning a school of magic does harm to no one, and I see no reason to accept such disproportionate retribution.



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The necromancer specialization is inferior in every way. It's certainly a downgrade for this game.

I blow people up by killing them and I can make the run in fear to there doom in lighting cages. Inferior it is not.