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[Catalyst38]

I was replaying origins and it hit me! The architect is a magister who unlike Corypheus doesn't remember. Think if the implications, that means if the warden chooses to kill him or not it's irrelevant. He will resurrect and what if because you kill him when he comes back he knows who he was.

This might have talked about before I don't know it was just a omg wow moment for me, when I first saw him in awakening.

[Panda]

Yup this has been discussed before, but not sure where those threads are now. The current consensus seems to be that he truly is ancient magister, but people have also argued that his skills might be different than Cory's and thus maybe not body-hopping and immortality via it. I think it's likely that he survived Warden killing him though if they chose to do so though and I'd love to see Bioware use him in the future, I think he's great character that can evolve in many ways. He's both main villain and NPC that helps protagonist material, he could be minor character or major character in the upcoming DA games. He can stay loyal to darkspawn and want to awaken them or he could abandon them over realisation that he's magister from Tevinter. I'm intrested to see that if he's in future games and retains his memories on what he is, what path will he take.

[Catalyst38]

Does anyone know how man magisters there were?

I also think the body hoping is a default for them (I have nothing to base that on) as with the old gods, I believe Corypheus main power was in the manipulation or the creation of red lyrum while the architects main ability is the ability to awaken the darkspawn. I'm very interested in how the story will progress from this point, now knowing all the magisters are down there either mindless or plotting something is very intriguing.

[TheKomandorShepard]

Yes and no ,DG confirmed that architect was magister that went to the black city ,but also confirmed that architect if killed is dead and won't return.That means not every tainted magister can change bodies ,or at least architect couldn't.

[Lumix19]

Does anyone know how man magisters there were?
I also think the body hoping is a default for them (I have nothing to base that on) as with the old gods, I believe Corypheus main power was in the manipulation or the creation of red lyrum while the architects main ability is the ability to awaken the darkspawn. I'm very interested in how the story will progress from this point, now knowing all the magisters are down there either mindless or plotting something is very intriguing.

7 Magisters I believe, each a high priest of the Old Gods and each with a role in the ritual that took them to the Black City. Hence the Architect and Corypheus (conductor). They took names to hide their identities. Personally I don't think body hopping is standard since I see that as a natural extension of Corypheus' power over the Blight, something which I don't think the Architect has displayed. That said I'm curious to see what comes next.

Yes and no ,DG confirmed that architect was magister that went to the black city ,but also confirmed that architect if killed is dead and won't return.That means not every tainted magister can change bodies ,or at least architect couldn't.

Could you provide a link where DG confirms that the Architect's death is permanent? I hadn't heard of this.

[Panda]

Does anyone know how man magisters there were?

 

7 Magisters I believe, each a high priest of the Old Gods and each with a role in the ritual that took them to the Black City. Hence the Architect and Corypheus (conductor). They took names to hide their identities.

 

Some of them are dead already though, or at least it seems like they are. There is codex entry in DAI which claims that another darkspawn magister killed another while third one escaped.

 

Here is the codex: http://dragonage.wik...rent_Darkspawn?

 

But it's quite likely that there is still more than Cory and Architect around.

[TheKomandorShepard]

Could you provide a link where DG confirms that the Architect's death is permanent? I hadn't heard of this.

You are lucky this is on wiki page otherwise i wouldn't be able to find it.

[Catalyst38]

I see what your saying Corypheus was basically a super arch-demon but the architect on the other hand seams more like the blight is a curse and the the source of his power at all. That honestly is more interesting, I won't how much different the other magisters are. I wonder if Flemeth is one of the magisters as well. Now that I say it, it would explain a lot about why she seams so godly and her extensive knowledge of blight and the wardens. Really thinking about it how did she know how to purify the old gods anyways.

[Killdren88]

The Architect either lost his memory or never told the Warden everything. And in his own twisted way trying to attend for the actions of the Magisters

[Panda]

I see what your saying Corypheus was basically a super arch-demon but the architect on the other hand seams more like the blight is a curse and the the source of his power at all. That honestly is more interesting, I won't how much different the other magisters are. I wonder if Flemeth is one of the magisters as well. Now that I say it, it would explain a lot about why she seams so godly and her extensive knowledge of blight and the wardens. Really thinking about it how did she know how to purify the old gods anyways.

 

I don't think Flemeth is ancient magister though, since she already has elven god's spirit inside of her so her being ancient magister would be bit of much for one character and she doesn't appear to be darkspawn at all.

[HereticDante]

I'd love if it turned out the Architect was the High Priest of Urthemiel. "Where's your god? Oh you turned him into an Archdemon"

[Lumix19]

You are lucky this is on wiki page otherwise i wouldn't be able to find it.

Ah yes I remember that, thanks. I'm not sure whether to take that line has confirmation though.

Some of them are dead already though, or at least it seems like they are. There is codex entry in DAI which claims that another darkspawn magister killed another while third one escaped.
 
Here is the codex: http://dragonage.wik...rent_Darkspawn?
 
But it's quite likely that there is still more than Cory and Architect around.

Yes that too. So possibly 5 or even 4 now that Corypheus is dead.

[Heimdall]

You are lucky this is on wiki page otherwise i wouldn't be able to find it.

I'm inclined to think that's open to change. Especially considering that Gaider has left the franchise.

[xPez]

That talking darkspawn thing is my favourite codex entry ever.

 

I wouldn't take what DG said in that interview to be definite confirmation that killing the Architect means he's dead. They brought Leliana back from "death", and the Architect, depending on how alike he is to Cory, has an actual power that saves him from death.

[Call Me Jord]

Yes and no ,DG confirmed that architect was magister that went to the black city ,but also confirmed that architect if killed is dead and won't return.That means not every tainted magister can change bodies ,or at least architect couldn't.

 

 

I never made the connection. Wow, thats a big mind twister.

 

So that means we have encountered 2 of the 7 Magisters who breached the Golden City. I wonder if we'll encounter the other 5 in future DA games.

 

If the next one goes north to Tevinter, I'd atleast hope for one more of the 7 to show up. 

[Al Foley]

 

I never made the connection. Wow, thats a big mind twister.

 

So that means we have encountered 2 of the 7 Magisters who breached the Golden City. I wonder if we'll encounter the other 5 in future DA games.

 

If the next one goes north to Tevinter, I'd atleast hope for one more of the 7 to show up. 

I want Dumat to show up...

[TheKomandorShepard]

I'm inclined to think that's open to change. Especially considering that Gaider has left the franchise.

Possible but doubtful many people aren't overjoyed about them resurrecting characters ,and they have decided from what i remember to not bring more characters from dead after da 2.

 

 

That talking darkspawn thing is my favourite codex entry ever.

 

I wouldn't take what DG said in that interview to be definite confirmation that killing the Architect means he's dead. They brought Leliana back from "death", and the Architect, depending on how alike he is to Cory, has an actual power that saves him from death.

Devs never said that leliana was dead from what i recall leliana just pop out of nowhere in da 2 ,and after that devs got not nice feedback about that practice. Not to mention that architect if had such ability he would possess the warden in first place.

 

 

[Heimdall]

Possible but doubtful many people aren't overjoyed about them resurrecting characters ,and they have decided from what i remember to not bring more characters from dead after da 2.

They might make an exception for the Architect, seeing as they have such an easy out if he has Corypheus' body jumping ability.

[Panda]

 

I never made the connection. Wow, thats a big mind twister.

 

So that means we have encountered 2 of the 7 Magisters who breached the Golden City. I wonder if we'll encounter the other 5 in future DA games.

 

If the next one goes north to Tevinter, I'd atleast hope for one more of the 7 to show up. 

 

Actually the codex entry that I linked earlier says that one of the magisters killed and ate another so that would mean that there is potentially 4 magisters around in future DA games if they haven't died in sometimes either in top of Architect that might or might not be alive.

[Call Me Jord]

Actually the codex entry that I linked earlier says that one of the magisters killed and ate another so that would mean that there is potentially 4 magisters around in future DA games if they haven't died in sometimes either in top of Architect that might or might not be alive.

 

I guess a trip to the Golden City really turns the stomach. Or that Magister just had the munchies that could only be satisfied by another Magister.

[TheKomandorShepard]

They might make an exception for the Architect, seeing as they have such an easy out if he has Corypheus' body jumping ability.

As i said DG claimed they don't plan making exception for architect , and in first place Architect didn't possess the warden and his warden companions.

[JadeDragon]

He kept two tainted beings with him at all times. one as a bodyguard and another just off in the shadows. Knowing more about the taint so far then anyone in the series bodyhopping wouldn't be out of the question. Cory was more direct so hrs wouldve taken control of the wardens body but archy is smarter he is gonna use his backup and replan his goals.

[TheKomandorShepard]

In first place he could get rid of his enemy ,so i don't see how it is smarter not kill your enemy when you can ,not mention pointless killing your ally instead.

[Giton]

The Architect and Corypheus will survive and have a romantic reunion and slow dance to Dean Martin. It is known.

 

 

Spoiler

 

 

source: http://ultra-trashca...spawn-courtship

 

[Call Me Jord]

The Architect and Corypheus will survive and have a romantic reunion and slow dance to Dean Martin. It is known.

 

 

Spoiler

 

 

source: http://ultra-trashca...spawn-courtship

 

 

Maker's balls, why did I click that haha.

 

I wouldn't be surprised if he has a surprise appearance in the dlc that may contain Darkspawn (Not confirmed obviously, but was slyly hinted at.) Then we have Weisshaupt, Darkspawns, then bam, the Architect!