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[rockchild123]

Anticitizen1 wrote...

Popstick wrote...

Half-Life 2 doesn't share every single characteristic from Half-Life 1. That sure didn't stop HL2 from becoming one of the great shooters of our time. If BW had left everything intact from ME 1 and only changed the story for ME 2, you'd be calling them lazy for not trying to fix or remove the many flaws from ME 1. Maybe if you want a more complete RPG for ME 3, you should start with constructive criticism.

Example: For ME 3, why not have both an ammo and a cool-down system. You can still eject the heatsink like in ME 2, but if you run out, you'll still be able to fire, but only briefly and in short bursts to prevent overheating.

Or, for ME 3, while the unique outfits were a decent idea for ME 2, it still doesn't make sense that we can't at least equip our squad with better or more protective gear. If it's a suicide mission, wearing the best armour would seem like a no-brainer. Why not offer both? Customise their outfits as well as their armour.

And finally: For ME 3, why not give us slightly more abilities to choose from? ME 1 had too many redundant abilities. But ME 2 didn't have enough. Add more Biotic powers, more Tech powers so players have more options available to create a unique class.

See? It's not so difficult to give some decent feedback to BioWare for ME 3. It's a lot more helpful than the  'ME 2 is not a proper sequel!!!! BW have stuffed everything up!111' mentality that's around here.

This man has it perfect.
I love ME2, but I do wish there were a little more RPG elements to the game. But really, the overall vision they had is great: Get rid of the useless stuff from the first game. The combat in ME2 is how it should have been from the beginning, but again feel it could use [i]a little[/b] more role-playing to it.
I have confidence that BioWare will find the right balance between RPG/shooter with ME3.
I also love the ammo & cool-down system you suggested, that would be a great addition.

These are great points.  The only thing I would add is to have some type of planet exploration back.  If evryone did not want to drive around in a little 5km square fine... make if a shuttle that can fly around.  It can be faster than a ground vechicle but at least I get the feeling that I am searching and discovery things for myself not just led there. The inventory system needs to be changed as well its just boring.

[turianscantjunp]

this is bioware trying to appeal to a more wider audiance (and possibly trying to compare with halo, etc.), there are elements which have been taken away from this game but theyve also added others. anyhow im a fan of all types of games.

in my opinion its still a great game especially when you look at it as a shooter. with some creature comforts.

[the logger]

In answer to the op's original question: Yes i am bored........ of waiting for the UK release of this game !.

[Kalfear]

Popstick wrote...

How can you even stand to play through ME 1 a dozen times? The characters had half a page of dialogue, the Mako was both frustrating and boring, progression of your character was slow and by end-game, pretty much every one had identical class builds, sorting through the inventory was a nightmare, especially with the 150 item limit, reducing all the useless loot to omni-gel was a chore, the combat was horrible and about as fun to play as seeing how many needles you can stick in your arm before screaming. Holding down left-mouse button in the middle of a battlefield is better than taking cover, firing in short bursts to conserve ammo and making sure you're not being flanked is better how exactly? Because that's pretty much all you had to in ME 1. Tape down left mouse.

Loved ME1 and had multiple play throughs as well.

I honestly cant see myself playing more then 3 play throughs on ME2 and thats pushing it!

OP is right, this game just doesnt have that feeling of nessessity and epic adventure that the first one had.

Yes the Mako missions in the first one sucked, but after the first play through you didnt have to do them really. With ME2, Bioware said in a vid if you pass up the scanning bordom of ME2 you will die in the suicide mission. So you dont have the same freedom in ME2.

And im sorry, the same 25 people can spam the forums with praise of the shooter combat all they want, this game just isnt that interesting combat wise because the game is more about combat and less about why you doing the combat.

And lets be honest, Bioware is never going to attract the hard core shooter types as even ME2 has to much story and words for their liking. They simply will not play it cause of that.

Bioware, in ME3, go back to your base and satisfy your base. ME2 could have been a home run if you had just worried more about why you doing something then how you doing something.

And lose the planet scanning, that makes the Mako look like game idea of the decade.

[Dewnis]

I enjoy this game more than the first one to be honest, I like the characters more too.

[manyfistss]

I replayed ME1 to experience a new class/difficulty, not because of the combat which really sucked or the mako which reeked or the story line which was the same **** over and over. I'll be replaying ME2 because of the different options, the storyline (which can really differ if you made certain choices in ME1) and experience a new class/difficulty.

[Aielex]

Not bored at all. Have a nice day.

[Octsober]

Looking forward to the dlc, I can say that I completed almost everything working on the tying up loose ends.

[ODST 5723]

Kalfear wrote...
And lets be honest, Bioware is never going to attract the hard core shooter types as even ME2 has to much story and words for their liking. They simply will not play it cause of that..

They've got me playing, and I'm a hardcore shooter fan. 

[Dr Metzger]

Hell I played through dragon age 3 times so far with more playthroughs planned and have 4 complete ME saves(would have been more but my vid card died in the middle of the next one) but probably 90% of the games I play are first person shooters.

[HeyUder]

The inventory is way, way, way too simplistic. Too simplistic to the point that I'm confused. Where can I buy weapons and armor? All I see in weapon shops are upgrades, never actual weapons or even schematics. Whenever I get a schematic it tends to be a heavy weapon.

Modifié par HeyUder, 28 janvier 2010 - 08:19 .

[Exodus Bane]

I think the main point of this game is to appeal to the over all population that wants a more widly accepted interface. In the end the people at bioware only want this magnificent story and world to be exposed to as many people as possible.

And yes I relize the Cerberus system is money maker but I dont think that it was intirely their idea to use it I think it was an idea from un-said finacial advisiors used to make the creators of Mass Effect believe it was nessecery to ensure a ME3.

[boardnfool86]

It's pretty simple, great game, but they strayed from traditional RPG elements, but to be fair inventory management and micromanaging a million skills is interesting in its own right, and they are traditional components from RPGs of the past, but they aren't neccessary. Bioware focused in on story and gameplay, kudos cause thats what matters most. The game feels very real as you carry what you have on you, guns dont level, you have to upgrade them, and each manufacturer's gun has a different style, rather than just being flat out better at the same level. I am sorry if you're a traditional RPG'er and you dont like this game, but it is still an RPG first and a shooter second. Borderlands is a shooter first and an RPG second - in case you're curious on my frame of reference.

[Starhaus]

The new combat interface and mechanics are HORRIBLE. I enjoyed combat in ME1, but ME2 sucks big time. The sticky auto-movement and auto-shelter crap was bad enough in ME1 but they plunged it to new lows in ME2 making all combat more a struggle against the game's interface than against the storyline enemies. Worse you have little on screen info about anything, forcing you into ridiculous stop and start <shift-key> menus which interrupts movement and makes the games devs the only people you want to kill.

[gropax]

Starhaus wrote...

The new combat interface and mechanics are HORRIBLE. I enjoyed combat in ME1, but ME2 sucks big time. The sticky auto-movement and auto-shelter crap was bad enough in ME1 but they plunged it to new lows in ME2 making all combat more a struggle against the game's interface than against the storyline enemies. Worse you have little on screen info about anything, forcing you into ridiculous stop and start menus which interrupts movement and makes the games devs the only people you want to kill.

troll that loves copy and paste she has done this rant in 5 topics already

[Lycid]

walker834 wrote...

lycid  still can't give an intelligent response to what I asked. That's what is funny. Can you even think for yourself Lycid? Please lay out in detail why ME2 is what you say it is. I'm waiting.  lolololol.  People like you are all the same.  You are probably a grad student  I bet who can't think for yourself.  I dare you to get into it with me.  Please do. 

At least I didn't drag CAPITALISM and ART into this discussion. You are really dumb.

I like ME 2, because the presentation is great and the combat is fun. What they dropped from ME 1 was the outdated aspects of RPGs that I suspect a lot of future RPGs will be dropping as well. Seriously if you want to deal with inventory management and having your bags filled with garbages that weight blah blah pounds, go play Fallout 3.

The real "RPG" aspects of the game have been superb, the voice acting, the  cut scenes, the quest descriptions, the dialogue trees, etc. "ZOMG THEY ARE USING MAINSTREAM ACTORS LIKE MARTIN SHEEN FOR VOICES. THEY SOLD OUT TO TEH EVIL HOLLYWOOD." Grow up. I haven't finished it yet, and I'm 20 hours in, so I can't comment on the story completely (and spoilers), but so far so good.

[SIlence Dogood]

One of the few flaws that Bioware made is the game's romances. They are getting too cliche. The storyline may have been a bit predictable, but they could have done a MUCH better job with the romances. Some of their personalities seemed static and not as real as ME1. Where have the strong, witty women gone?

Modifié par SIlence Dogood, 28 janvier 2010 - 10:02 .

[Pocketgb]

SIlence Dogood wrote...

One of the few flaws that Bioware made is the game's romances. They are getting too cliche. The storyline may have been a bit predictable, but they could have done a MUCH better job with the romances. Some of their personalities seemed static and not as real as ME1. Where have the strong, witty women gone?

Very interesting, since I found the romance interests in ME1 massively lacking. Different strokes?

[SIlence Dogood]

Pocketgb wrote...

SIlence Dogood wrote...

One of the few flaws that Bioware made is the game's romances. They are getting too cliche. The storyline may have been a bit predictable, but they could have done a MUCH better job with the romances. Some of their personalities seemed static and not as real as ME1. Where have the strong, witty women gone?

Very interesting, since I found the romance interests in ME1 massively lacking. Different strokes?

In ME1, the romances may have been lacking because they were soldiers, military to the core. It was understandable that they didn't have a lot of times to flirt, but, when they had their personalities and reactions were quite well done.  In ME2 ... I will say that not ALL women get flustered and melt into a puddle at the sight of a nice face and hard abs. It usually works, but that's not the point.

[George Shepard]

Utterly disagree, the story, the characters, the overall universe is amazing. Each character mission feels like Noveria or Feros. The dialogue, camera movements and the voice acting is the BEST I have ever seen. The combat is well done and extremely rewarding to play. As for RPG elements I must profess my continuing amazement at you classic RPG fanboys. Going through inventories equipping yourself and party members DOES NOT show an RPG. A ROLE PLAYING GAME is when you play the role of a certain character through customization and personalization. ME does this brilliantly in #1 and #2. So congratulations Bioware. you have effectively made the greatest game of your existence. I and thousands of other are thoroughly enjoying this amazing experience. I know I am.

[laststarfighter]

Bioware runied the ME experience with all the changes in ME2 by catering to the shooter crowd. ME2 is the biggest disappointment in my gaming history.

[SIlence Dogood]

laststarfighter wrote...

Bioware runied the ME experience with all the changes in ME2 by catering to the shooter crowd. ME2 is the biggest disappointment in my gaming history.

The game wasn't that horrid, they just laxed on the character's personalities a bit. 

Modifié par SIlence Dogood, 28 janvier 2010 - 10:25 .

[Pocketgb]

SIlence Dogood wrote...

In ME1, the romances may have been lacking because they were soldiers, military to the core. It was understandable that they didn't have a lot of times to flirt, but, when they had their personalities and reactions were quite well done.  In ME2 ... I will say that not ALL women get flustered and melt into a puddle at the sight of a nice face and hard abs. It usually works, but that's not the point.

I just found them boring in ME1.

Liara's romance went WAY too quick, and felt rushed.

I did not like hanging out with Ash. General attitude just didn't "latch on" to me.

Quite the opposite in DA:O, though. Loved nearly all of them.

[SIlence Dogood]

Pocketgb wrote...

SIlence Dogood wrote...

In ME1, the romances may have been lacking because they were soldiers, military to the core. It was understandable that they didn't have a lot of times to flirt, but, when they had their personalities and reactions were quite well done.  In ME2 ... I will say that not ALL women get flustered and melt into a puddle at the sight of a nice face and hard abs. It usually works, but that's not the point.

I just found them boring in ME1.

Liara's romance went WAY too quick, and felt rushed.

I did not like hanging out with Ash. General attitude just didn't "latch on" to me.

Quite the opposite in DA:O, though. Loved nearly all of them.

Their personalities were too sophisticated to be put in a game.  To me games are a form of entertainment.  I love it when the storyline and characters are unpredictable, realistic, and exciting.  All women do. 

Games like Dragon Age: Origins are predictable, but not to the point of dullness, thus these games are perfect for not as realistic characters.        

Modifié par SIlence Dogood, 28 janvier 2010 - 10:34 .