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EVERY Fan Wants the Hero to Return, Including YOU.


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#126
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I headcanon that my Wardens blabbed to everyone about the Joining.

 

I know right? I wouldn't keep it secret. Like, if a new PC asked the Hero of Ferelden how an archdemon dies, and s/he stays tight-lipped, I'd be kind of annoyed. Just tell him/her you jerkface!


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The Inquisitor can be Dalish, actually when you think of it, if he is a dalish, and he saves the world, he is more important than the Hero of Fereldan, who saved only Fereldan

Actually i believe that My Hawke was more world changing than My Inquisitor, in DAI you resolve many problems created by Hawke.
The only reson the Inquisitor exist is to solve problems created by  hawke, next one is Tallis.


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A Grey Warden is just a Grey Warden, but a Herald of a Andraste is a bit above the I stopped the blight. Sure I would have liked to see a trilogy of the Hero like they did with Mass Effect. Yes the Hero was levels above Hawke in both skill and charisma. The world has moved on from the fifth blight, Ferelden is just a muddy spot on a large map. Like Alistar said in the cave when you meet him; "Yea I fought the Archdemon, but that don't matter anymore. I am just one more Warden under Correll." Dagna is the only one who cares about the Warden. My Warden finished the Red Jenny, giving Sera the little box, and she still said she didn't see him, and it didn't matter anymore. Morrigan, Lelianna, are yea I met him back when he was important enough, now not so much. Cullen thinks Hawke did more than the Warden. It is a sorry affair, but the world turns, and heroes either fade away or stick around and become villains.



#129
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A Grey Warden is just a Grey Warden, but a Herald of a Andraste is a bit above the I stopped the blight. 

Corin-Gharael-HoF are not just Grey wardens they are legends, and The Herald of Andraste is just a glowing hand with 0 charisma knowing as the errand boy.
The Inquisitor have never met Andraste, never found her ashes or the temple, he/she is just another minion of Fen Harel, my Marian Hawke was 1000 better because she does not need a special magical fluff to be a badass and many great companions (not advisors) revolve around her.
I don't care if the writers have decided to build a character that was meant to be the new Mohammed or Jesus when clearly the whole thing is forced above any reasonable capacity of understanding, since the story is quickly resolved and the game was meant to be the lands of fetch quests.
 Every Complaint of this type that want the return of the HoF are always here because DAI story is short and without any original element, give to us instead a new Great character who can surpass the HoF nostalgia, one who belong to an organization without color, an Organization who is interesting as the one of the Grey Wardens, yes i'm speaking about the Crows instead of the Chantry.
Those type  of Organization are perfect for the multi race, and every origin fit perfectly, but with Inquisition at least to me a non Human Inquisitor seems out of place even the elves.


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I don't quite understand this almost cultist mentality people infuse the Inquisitor with. He/she wasn't chosen. He/she wasn't the Herald of Andraste. He/she was nothing more than a false prophet and an imposter who merely stumbled into power by happenstance. To put it more plainly, the Inquisitor is the Blackwall of heroes in Dragon Age.

 

The Hero of Ferelden actually had to rebuild a collapsing world with the hand of a few makeshift heroes. He/she didn't have an army. He/she didn't have a glowy hand as a convenient plot device. All he/she had were a few dusty, old treaties that said dwarves/elves/humans help us when big bad Archdemon comes. Not to mention, Urthemiel was actually a threat and a god, unlike Corypheus who had been schooled by Hawke in his free time as a DLC boss...

 

In closing, this fanboy culture around the Inquisitor should really stop. I honestly don't want to see any of the previous heroes return. The HoF is dead for half the fans anyways. The same is the case for Hawke. The Inquisitor may as well be a silent protagonist because he/she lacked a personality, unlike Hawke. How about BioWare actually gives us a legitimate protagonist for once who we can actually grow to build and shape like Shepard? None of this four different races with a million different backgrounds and no depth. Just give us one character with actual depth that we can shape. Quality always trumps quantity any given day.



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I don't quite understand this almost cultist mentality people infuse the Inquisitor with. He/she wasn't chosen. He/she wasn't the Herald of Andraste. He/she was nothing more than a false prophet and an imposter who merely stumbled into power by happenstance. To put it more plainly, the Inquisitor is the Blackwall of heroes in Dragon Age.
 
The Hero of Ferelden actually had to rebuild a collapsing world with the hand of a few makeshift heroes. He/she didn't have an army. He/she didn't have a glowy hand as a convenient plot device. All he/she had were a few dusty, old treaties that said dwarves/elves/humans help us when big bad Archdemon comes. Not to mention, Urthemiel was actually a threat and a god, unlike Corypheus who had been schooled by Hawke in his free time as a DLC boss...
 
In closing, this fanboy culture around the Inquisitor should really stop. I honestly don't want to see any of the previous heroes return. The HoF is dead for half the fans anyways. The same is the case for Hawke. The Inquisitor may as well be a silent protagonist because he/she lacked a personality, unlike Hawke. How about BioWare actually gives us a legitimate protagonist for once who we can actually grow to build and shape like Shepard? None of this four different races with a million different backgrounds and no depth. Just give us one character with actual depth that we can shape. Quality always trumps quantity any given day.


Fanboy culture around the Inquisitor? You sure do like using that word. If any DA protagonist has a "fanboy" cult built up around them, it's the Hero of Ferelden.
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#132
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Let's see....NO, I don't want the warden to return.

Even though I vastly prefer the Warden and DA:O in general to their later counterparts.



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That's right. Every fan of Dragon Age wants the Hero of Ferelden to return in the next game, and yes that includes you. This is a fact that I will prove objectively.

My intention is to convince YOU that the Hero's return is the only viable option, and one that you WANT to take place. It's just that many fans aren't aware of this... yet.

 

Thread does not constitute 'proof' as far as I'm concerned.

Not convinced by the argument.

And it's not happening in any case...



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why would i want my 2nd most hated video game protagonist to return? the HoF is even worse than Shepard...



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Before reading this topic, I didn't want my hero to return knowing full well Bioware would ruin him for me.
After reading this topic, I still don't want my hero to return. Knowing full well Bioware would ruin him for me.

If they managed to screw him up for me in a letter, I very highly doubt they could avoid screwing him up in person.
 



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Bioware's stated position on the Hero of Ferelden is that his/her story is done. Token nods or homages notwithstanding, they've been consistently and fairly clear about that, although the greatest source of their reticence seems to be the whole "voice" thing.

 

In other words, sort of a wussy kind of reasoning!

 

Would I like to see them adapt the original Dragon Age: Origins character creator customizations to the new generation consoles, pick a few suitable voices and then allow their original Warden/Warden-Commander to have another go? If we must treat that query as a serious question, then HELL YES!

 

Will I hold my breath waiting in anticipation for that to happen, um, hell no.


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#137
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Damn right we want Shepard back in ME4! Oh snap, this is DA.....

But I suppose the hero of Ferelden is ok to, yes we want him back!
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#138
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why would i want my 2nd most hated video game protagonist to return? the HoF is even worse than Shepard...

Thats a pretty big stretch, like from Australia to America distance wise of a stretch....
Shepherds chock full auto dialogue consists of such nuggets as "We fight or we die, thats the plan" Clearly the words of somebody we really really don't want us making any decisions in regards to a galactic war.
Whats the worst auto dialogue from the Hero of Ferelden? Oh thats right there is none. and its extremely difficult to get to get the HOF's level of intellect down to Shepards even with the dialogue choices available. 



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I've played that game already

The Hero of Ferelden is the least compelling BioWare character I have played

so no I do not really want the HoF to return

But when it really comes down to it I kinda don't care if he/she does

so long story short:

eh



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Nothing's more fun than when arrogant people tell me what I think and want.



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I have no desire to see the HoF return, but I think some of you are selling them short. The HoF didn't just save one country. They aborted a continent wide conflict that, judging by the past, could have gone on for over a century. And they did it without the assistance of the full Warden organization, while putting an end to one Civil War before it started and another in full swing.

The HoF deserves full accolades for what they accomplished, particularly with such meager resources.
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#142
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I actually enjoy my dwarf inquisitor more then my HoF. Would rather see a continued story/play with him.



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Actually i believe that My Hawke was more world changing than My Inquisitor, in DAI you resolve many problems created by Hawke.
The only reson the Inquisitor exist is to solve problems created by  hawke, next one is Tallis.

 

 

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Now, back on topic: no.



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No thanks.

 

Bringing previous player protagonists into the picture rather than just mentioned as a comment or two is a pitfall, and one that bioware fell in even with Hawke in DA:I

 

The fact that the hero is a muted protagonist also allows for much more expansive and intelligent dialogue realistically, which is something I have been seeing when playing pillars of eternity over the last few weeks, they do not have anywhere near the budget bioware is working with yet their dialogue system has much greater player freedom.



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I think when people envision the Hero of Ferelden returning, they see him/her reuniting with their love interest and having all sorts of heroic and fun adventures. But what if Bioware brought back the Warden only to kill them off? Look at Hawke's storyline in DAI. Being a hero isn't enough to save you in this universe.



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Frankly TC i agree with everything you said. A-lot of my wardens decisions mattered to me and I feel like it would be great to see him/her again. Especially my female human noble rouge Kaetlissa Aubreck. I made her queen along the side of Alistar and she survived her situation against the darkspawn brood mother in DAA. Other wardens like Goketsu Remsurge who romanced Morrigan who's travelling around has to be wondering what is the fate of Morrigan and should see his son. I honestly kind of still regret tossing my female dalish elf warrior Vakira because she may of died against the archdemon but maybe getting someone who acts under her or in her stead would be great because Vakira gave her life to have that new person live on and Inquisitor to become what he/she is.


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You're right. I do want my Hero(es) of Ferelden to return!

 

Just long enough for Bioware to kill them so their story can finally be over and I can stop reading topics like this.


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Well, this thread certainly got a lot of replies. Thanks to all who replied, even if most posts are negative.

 

Of course I forgot the main problem of all message boards, people don't actually have to read the opening post in order to reply.

 

And because of this many of you are still incomplete fans, your wants and dreams still unrealized. I encourage you all to go back to the first post and actually read it this time. :)

 

And now the replies.

 

I do actually want my Warden to get some closure in some capacity rather than just get left dangling there forever, yes...but seriously, even I shake my head at anyone who claims to know what 'everyone' wants here. >.>

 

It wasn't just a claim though. I backed it up with facts. It may look like many fans disagreed, but in reality those people just didn't read the first post. They ignored all the facts in order to post their knee-jerk reaction to the title.


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#149
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Anything that Bioware would do with the HoF's return will never live up to my expectations on the matter. If they do bring him/her back and they screw it up, which we know they would given the sheer amount of variables on the matter, it would cause a bitterness in me that would negatively effect my entire view of the game.

 

They already turned my diplomatic Hawke into a bitter and angry man, and they don't want to do the same to me. Leave my HoF alone. 

 

Which is why my suggestion has YOU the player deciding if the Hero is shown in the next game or not, and also how your Hero bows out from the world stage.

 

So if you don't want to see the Hero again, or if you think the game screws him/her up, or are just afraid it will, then take the out. Choose to have your Hero sit the game out and do the things you select for them.

 

The fact is that BioWare did not leave your HoF alone, and they won't in the next game either, unless you join us and promote the idea of letting players choose their own Hero's end.


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#150
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A DLC where every Warden shall return. Yes, even those ones who died killing the Archdemon. Or didn't exist. 

 

There never will be a DLC featuring the Warden because of that. Some people don't have living Wardens. I'd say a good deal of people never played Origins. 

 

You obviously didn't read my original post. I addressed the US Heroes. The tomb in Weisshaupt would reflect their legacy.

 

As for the Heroes who "didn't exist", a Hero always exists. If you picked the default worldstate in Inquisition, then that is built on a Hero who did exist. In that case, the next installment would feature that Hero's tomb at Weisshaupt and possibly a new Warden who would be customizable or default for those who don't want to create a new Warden character.

 

The idea is, either the Hero of Ferelden shows up, or is replaced by the new Warden (possibly the Orlesian Warden from Awakening). This allows the pro-Hero fans to bring back their Heroes, and it allows anti-Hero fans to leave their Heroes out of it.


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