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#201
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 How about a quick codex entry?

 

'The warden died from the taint before he/she found the cure-The End.

 

At least the threads would change to 'ressurct the zombie warden!'

 

That would take at least 17 more years to happen.

 

Also, wouldn't apply to Power of Blood Wardens.



#202
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Awakening and the Warden ally of Inquisition are fairly good indicators of what we can reasonably expect of any story that might involve the Hero of Ferelden. The Orlesian Warden-Commander was some nobody too, yet we got one just the same to fill the Warden's shoes. The alternative would be to have the story of Awakening simply occur outside of our control, because a fixed character like Alistair or Loghain took control over Vigil's Keep instead.

 

 

More than likely, a fill-in only exists in the story if the Hero is dead, rather than us choosing to have a living Hero be involved or not.

 

The fill-in would also exist in a story where the player chooses that the Hero stay out of it.



#203
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To OP:

 

Was impressed by your dedication to the Hero and all your replies to the naysayers but let it go.

 

He/she will never come back...

 

The Hero is already back.



#204
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In all probability, the player would be choosing the character's fate in the role of a separate character altogether, just like how Hawke and Stroud/Alistair/Loghain's fates were determined. I think it's a safe bet that the Hero's involvement will be strictly as an NPC. There's no real hope of this character returning as a PC in any capacity.

 

I don't think it would require any other character being affected, except perhaps the Orlesian Warden. And even then it's a maybe.



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You don't understand. What happens is that David is a very modest guy, he quit writing for DA because he's going to voice act. That's right, we don't need the Hero of Ferelden. We don't need Hawke. We don't need the Inquisitor. Thedas is getting in DA4 the hero it needs and deserves.

Praise Darth Gaider! For the age of the Maker, Old Gods and Elven Gods is about to end. He shall unite Thedas by the power of awesomeness!

*Companions will include Mark Darrah, Cameron Lee and Allan Schumacher among others.

**This is all factual and objective information. The unicorn sitting next to me has told me so.
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#206
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DONT TRY TO SPEAK FOR EVERYONE!!!! I couldn't give two sh*** for the Hero of Fereldon. Hell! I didn't even bother to properly import mine. I just picked the first one I saw in the Dragon Age keep & went with it because I know they would never appear in the game.

To me the Hero was just a souless cypher meant to represent the player. They had no personality what so ever & made them completely unrelatable. At least Hawke & The Inquisitor have something to relate to because they can talk.
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#207
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The fill-in would also exist in a story where the player chooses that the Hero stay out of it.

 

Assuming that the option exists, which I suspect will not be the case, just like how there's no option for Hawke to go back to Kirkwall while some other person leads us to the Warden ally. In any case, what we choose would have to be a part of the Keep, rather than the game itself, and since no Warden-related options exist beyond Origins and Awakening, we likely won't see anything, considering that the Keep only updates to the next game after that game's release.



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Good post OP. Seconded.


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how do you know what i want without even asking?


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Hmm ok.... But how does the dead hero of ferelden tie into all this? Dragon Age 4: Wandering in the Void?

 

Just no, please stop this HoF comeback movement... So many reasons for it not to happen. I want a concise, story driven, epic and emotional game for DA4, thats impossible if the game is about the Hero of Ferelden cause they would have to make 3 or 4 different games inside 1 game in light of all the player choices from Origins, and that would just detiorate the quality of the "main story", cause instead of one, there would be several, making them bland and unatractive.

 

Dragon Age is not like Mass Effect trilogy, there is no Shepard here!! Each game has its own protagonist, and its never about the protagonist, its about Thedas.. When will people finally realize that and give the HoF a rest???



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Lmao. It appears our Drinkquisition is getting quite the reputation.. :P

I was a bit of an arse when I posted I admit that. But myself, like many others, don't really appreciate being told what we want.

Op is welcome to his opinion but he or she probably should have worded the title a bit better. I'm not denying that he/she has great ideas however, cause they do. But at the end of the day it's out of our hands.. The devs can only take note of our ideas and get a general idea of what most fans want and judging by the responses in this thread most of us just wanna move on and have other experiences in these games.

I know people still do love their Wardens and want some closure but let's be realistic; you won't get it and if you do, it will be something very brief as it's too hard for "specifics" considering everyones Warden was different. Hell some of them even died so closure isn't really necessary in some cases.

As much as I disagree with the OP on a lot of things, I still think he has the right to say what he want, BUT. Isnt there 1000 more threads like this? Why create a new one? Why bother? Why post the same threads all over the forum, pepole that want the HOf to return, create one big thread, and thats it. Cuz when you pepole create 100 of them(not literally) Its really annoying and it is smashing other threads. Btw, just used your post as an example lol. Whoa been a long time since I have been at the drinkquisition :P 



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As much as I disagree with the OP on a lot of things, I still think he has the right to say what he want, BUT. Isnt there 1000 more threads like this? Why create a new one? Why bother? Why post the same threads all over the forum, pepole that want the HOf to return, create one big thread, and thats it. Cuz when you pepole create 100 of them(not literally) Its really annoying and it is smashing other threads. Btw, just used your post as an example lol. Whoa been a long time since I have been at the drinkquisition :P

 

Of course OP is welcome to their opinion. Everybody is.

 

But like you say.. there's a million of them already. At this rate I'm accustomed to reading the same over and over. I once said.. there's millions and millions of threads on the BSN but in reality; only about five. :lol:


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#214
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HoF is dead in the moment that Riordan said a warden must be sacrificed,that is the exact moment in which you know that your character from mandatory is transformed to non-mandatory, Joining the Grey Wardens is a dead sentence.



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HoF is dead in the moment that Riordan said a warden must be sacrificed,that is the exact moment in which you know that your character from mandatory is transformed to non-mandatory, Joining the Grey Wardens is a dead sentence.

 

Well, yes and no, since obviously there is always a second Grey Warden to do the deed for you. The more important thing is that there's only so much BioWare could write into a single game to account for all of these different outcomes. Letters and codex entries are the easy way to let the character continue to exist without having to create entire plots tied specifically to that character, unless BioWare decides to totally disregard certain choices and make a character exist whether we like it or not, like they did with Leliana, and I guess Anders, and I really don't want them to do that again.



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Lmao!!

Instead of hero of ferelden Monday it'd be Zombie warden Monday.

 

With 100% more convaluted suggestions! Magic potion made by a LI , and the ingredients include: a lock of andrasted hair, fire magic, and feathers to make Phoenix down.

 

These sorts of comments on every one of these threads are starting to get just as eye-roll worthy as the threads themselves. 

 

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#217
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With 100% more convaluted suggestions! Magic potion made by a LI , and the ingredients include: a lock of andrasted hair, fire magic, and feathers to make Phoenix down.

 

Why am I suddenly thinking of a Weird Science story set in Thedas?



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Well, yes and no, since obviously there is always a second Grey Warden to do the deed for you. 

There is another grey warden or even the DR, however  there is also the option to kill The Warden  and the mere existence of that option force the developers to remove the protagonist even if He/she is survived  to maintain the integrity (little expansions of DAA is there just to be there). 
I wish that Dragon age will not have such a stupid death like the sacrifice ever again, 2000 years and the wardens have never find another way to kill archdemons other than find some unfortunate Warden (Corin,Gharael sigh,Loghain sorry you are the only one who truly deserve this ) is just unbelievable, I wonder what do they do during their free time between one blight and the next other than enjoy the conscription of new recruits? they do not even need to waste their time to feed the Griffins......
The Inquisitor can handle the situations with the archdemon better than them,by banishing him into the fade as meal for demons.


#219
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Unless the Hero of Ferelden is dead, which is a supported state.

I have long thought that the Hero of Ferelden would make a good surprise villain in a future game, but the possibility that he's dead makes it difficult commit sufficient resources to him.

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I hate to burst your bubble, OP, but I have to say I'm in that group who doesn't want the HoF's return as a playable character.  The scenarios you propose aren't even imaginative, just a rehashing of old ideas already argued by "Bring back the warden" fans and grasping at straws in an attempt to add significance to the character that I just don't feel warrants it.  I enjoyed my wardens and their stories, but I feel Bioware's solution (gone off in search of the cure for the Calling) was a sufficient end to the living warden's story.  And replacing the Inquisitor (who is, whether you like it or not) the focus of Inquisition, with the warden in a DLC is a huge step backward story-wise.  Inquisition already takes place in more than just Ferelden, where the warden's impact is most keenly felt.  You get a memorial statue in Redcliffe, detailing his noble sacrifice (if dead) and a mission letter stating where he has gone if alive.  And the events of the Blight are a decade in the past.  It's always been the fate of the GW's that people forget about them if there isn't a Blight clawing at the land.  How do you think Loghain gained so much credibility trying to discredit the order?

I'm sorry if you don't feel that you have enough closure, and I know you have lots of other players who agree with you (as I have seen multitude of 'bring back the warden' threads on BSN), but I have no desire to step backward into the shoes of a character I feel has been played out to my satisfaction.  So i disagree, that no, not EVERYone wants the return of the warden, and you saying so doesn't make it reality, it just makes it your opinion.  I much prefer the story move on and I learn more of Thedas and it's lore.  I'm pretty much sick to death of the Grey Wardens at this point.

 

Personally, I hope there are no 'returning cameos' in the next game and it takes place 50 years in the future from Inquisition.


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Unless the Hero of Ferelden is dead, which is a supported state.

I have long thought that the Hero of Ferelden would make a good surprise villain in a future game, but the possibility that he's dead makes it difficult commit sufficient resources to him.

 

People also wouldn't be fond of their protagonist turned into a villain, but I think the idea is interesting. Personally, I would have liked to see Coryphheus wearing the HOF for an entire game. A human/elf/dwarf at the peak of their physical power, charismatic, with a Magister pulling the strings. 



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These sorts of comments on every one of these threads are starting to get just as eye-roll worthy as the threads themselves.

That's because this horse has been beaten into a paste at this point.

 

 

 

The Hero is already back.

Only in your own mind?

But you already know what you're doing here and it isn't a genuine desire to see the Warden from Origins return. I'm placing this and all the rest of these HoF spam threads into 96947.gif status.



#223
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These threads are great because you get a glut of "you're entitled to your opinion" posts.

There may not be a phrase in the English language whose use is so absurdly out of proportion to its usefulness 



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People also wouldn't be fond of their protagonist turned into a villain, but I think the idea is interesting. Personally, I would have liked to see Coryphheus wearing the HOF for an entire game. A human/elf/dwarf at the peak of their physical power, charismatic, with a Magister pulling the strings.

Am I right that this is canonically what happened to BG's Bhaalspawn in D&D 5E? Although IIRC he was destroyed fairly quickly..

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People also wouldn't be fond of their protagonist turned into a villain, but I think the idea is interesting. Personally, I would have liked to see Coryphheus wearing the HOF for an entire game. A human/elf/dwarf at the peak of their physical power, charismatic, with a Magister pulling the strings. 

 

The most interesting thing about this would be the fans' reaction. Personally I would hate this, but the pool of hurt that would be this forum might make up for some of it.

 

Anyway, the real problem is that doing something like this loses a great deal of its bite the moment the default version of whichever race you were shows up, which is what they'd have to do since you can't have a big plot reveal for the villain include a character creator.


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