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[malloc]

Jeep is able to be hacked. 

 

Car code is horrible

 

 

http://www.wired.com...l-jeep-highway/

[Hellamarian]

Jeep is able to be hacked. 

 

Car code is horrible

 

 

http://www.wired.com...l-jeep-highway/

 

Pre-2005 car owners holla back.

[Fidite Nemini]

Why are vital systems even connected to potential attack vectors?

 

Digitalization of functions is all well, but you've got to isolate those systems to make them secure. This is the most basic truth in connectivity, if it's connected, it can be compromised. Don't let vital system communicate with anything that connects to anywhere outside the damn car. You can't make anything digital 100% secure, hell, some idiot will find a USB stick on the parking lot and plug it into his car system, but at least you can shut down external influences if you simply don't connect vital systems with any outgoing/incoming communication. Firmware updates? Get to the bloody workshop and have an authorized technician install that stuff instead of downloading **** from outside.

 

Why is this even a thing???

[malloc]

Why is this even a thing???

 

 

Because it is the easiest way to manipulate Software. Plain and SImple. They don't want to spend money on a physical protocol, so the internet is convenient for them. Also depends whether the services are connected to a server of some sorts. Even when is leaves them open to wide attacks on the internet.

 

Unacceptable practice for mission critical software such as this though. There should have been most isolation. 

 

Jesus, someone could write a broadcast bomb to kill all the jeeps on the road if they wanted to.

[Fidite Nemini]

Because it is the easiest way to manipulate Software. Plain and SImple. They don't want to spend money on a physical protocol, so the internet is convenient for them. Also depends whether the services are connected to a server of some sorts. Even when is leaves them open to wide attacks on the internet.

 

Unacceptable practice for mission critical software such as this though. There should have been most isolation. 

 

Jesus, someone could write a broadcast bomb to kill all the jeeps on the road if they wanted to.

 

There's dark times ahead when talking about proper automotive security sounds like doomsday prophecies. The ironic thing is I can totally see 100% mechanical cars not being approved for regular streets with the argument of them not being save enough.

 

I can already see me in forty years, owning an old-as-hell vintage rustbucket named BS-75 just in case some script kiddo goes on to paralyze large swaths of public traffic by locking contemporary cars ...

[malloc]

There's dark times ahead when talking about proper automotive security sounds like doomsday prophecies. The ironic thing is I can totally see 100% mechanical cars not being approved for regular streets with the argument of them not being save enough.

 

I can already see me in forty years, owning an old-as-hell vintage rustbucket named BS-75 just in case some script kiddo goes on to paralyze large swaths of public traffic by locking contemporary cars ...

WIth the amount of things being connected to the internet these days, I think I am going to be very minimalist in the future. Good for the market tho

[Garryydde]

Jeep is able to be hacked. 
 
Car code is horrible
 
 
http://www.wired.com...l-jeep-highway/

http://www.engadget....r-quality-lead/

It's only going to get worse. I suggest you all go out and buy as many 80's and 90's shitboxes as you can.

[The Devlish Redhead]

Do mechanical Hard Drives have TRIM at all?

 

I use a program called Crystal Disk Info and it says my drive has TRIM capability but it isn't an SSD or a hybrid

[The Devlish Redhead]

WIth the amount of things being connected to the internet these days, I think I am going to be very minimalist in the future. Good for the market tho

 

There is no bloody need for a car to have wifi or internet. It's just stupid the amount of crap being put into cars

[Fidite Nemini]

Do mechanical Hard Drives have TRIM at all?

 

I use a program called Crystal Disk Info and it says my drive has TRIM capability but it isn't an SSD or a hybrid

 

Mechanical hard drives don't have trim, or rather, don't utilize trim as the basic finctionality is different from SSDs. Why the software would read out it having the capability is beyond me. Do you have a SSD in your system? Maybe Crystal Disk is just reading out the controller your data drives are connected to and if you've got both SSD and HDD going through the same controller, it reads TRIM enabled without distinguishing the individual drives.

 

 

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Googled a bit and it's most likely it's just that your OS has TRIM support by default which is what Crystal Disk is reading out, but it'd only kick in if you use a SSD and would obviously have zero effect on mechanical hard drives.

[malloc]

There is no bloody need for a car to have wifi or internet. It's just stupid the amount of crap being put into cars

With self driving cars, this point could be highly refuted.

[The Devlish Redhead]

Mechanical hard drives don't have trim, or rather, don't utilize trim as the basic finctionality is different from SSDs. Why the software would read out it having the capability is beyond me. Do you have a SSD in your system? Maybe Crystal Disk is just reading out the controller your data drives are connected to and if you've got both SSD and HDD going through the same controller, it reads TRIM enabled without distinguishing the individual drives.

 

 

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Googled a bit and it's most likely it's just that your OS has TRIM support by default which is what Crystal Disk is reading out, but it'd only kick in if you use a SSD and would obviously have zero effect on mechanical hard drives.

 

 

I think you are correct it's eithe reading the capabilities of the SATA controller or the OS, or both....  It's a good disk program and has saved me from dying drives...

 

Thanks

[The Devlish Redhead]

With self driving cars, this point could be highly refuted.

Yeah................ But they will need firewalls or someone will die.. Or lots of someones

[Garryydde]

With self driving cars, this point could be highly refuted.

That's because self-driving cars are a horrible idea.

[The Devlish Redhead]

That's because self-driving cars are a horrible idea.

I am curious why they are a bad idea?

[Garryydde]

I am curious why they are a bad idea?

Removing the human element from driving adds even more electronic complexity snd vulnerability, It also means you have to entrust the safety of you and other motorists into electronics which will, eventually fail, causing safety, reliability and longevity issues. Then there's the fact that the manufacturer has complete control over your vehicle and tracks your telemetry (which is happening now, Ford, Tesla and Nissan have all admitted to it).

[bmwcrazy]

That's because self-driving cars are a horrible idea.

It's not when you're too wasted to drive.

[malloc]

Hackers manage Sniper Rifle Exploit.

 

http://www.wired.com...-change-target/

 

The future is scary and very interesting. I think the IOT should bring new certifications per device. The more I hear about it, the more I feel like this stuff does not pass through a secure method of authentication.

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

 

I got this and I hope I can preserve my Data for at least 30 years with it. It's a military class external HDD btw.

[Deathangel008]

what makes a HDD "military class"...?

[Fidite Nemini]

what makes a HDD "military class"...?

 

Looky here.

[bmwcrazy]

It means it's bullet proof, right?

[Fidite Nemini]

It means it's bullet proof, right?

 

No, soldiers do not run around with HDDs in place of ballistic armor, though that may in fact change if the ongoing cyberization of infantry keeps up.

[malloc]

http://motherboard.v...nely-programmer

 

Schizophrenic patient makes operating system with application that talks to God

[The Devlish Redhead]

 

I got this and I hope I can preserve my Data for at least 30 years with it. It's a military class external HDD btw.

 

 

But will it blend?