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[congokong]

I made such a topic for DA:O ways back.

 

http://forum.bioware...-happen-in-dao/

 

When telling a story, what choices do you believe Bioware geared you towards making and/or presents the best story?

 

My opinion below... not that I make all these choices:

 

Race: Dalish elf

 

This is due to the large emphasis on lost elven history presented throughout the game (ex: Temple of Mythal, codex centries, Flemeth, etc.). No other race also has more race-exclusive options.

 

Class: Mage

 

Mages are a central theme of DA; offering much unique dialogue for the protagonist when they're one.

 

Gender: Female

 

It's because story-wise the Solas romance seems to flow the best. It gives insight that something is not right with Solas, and makes the epilogue less of a "WTF?!" moment.

 

However, if your DA:O character was a female mage I'd change all the above to a female human circle mage who romances Cullen. Considering Cullen's role throughout all three games in such a background there is something very fitting about him falling for yet another Circle mage; this time one who reciprocates his feelings. It shows how far he's come in his views on magic throughout the past ten years.

 

Also, the circle mage has the most reason to actually be at the conclave.

 

Companions: Recruit/befriend all

 

In Blackwall's case I believe he's expected to be freed from Val Royeux's prison to be given to the Grey Wardens once the threat is over. His tarot card kind of symbolizes it in this case; an image that matches his codex entry's. It's a sort of redemption and one where he can truly become what he's lied about being.

 

Mage/Templar Path: Mage

 

Things seem to flow better on the mage path. On the templar path Alexius and his time magic are just dropped, while on the mage path it's offered closure. Mages have also been the more favored/sympathetic group in the series. There's also more elaboration on Red Templars as the greatest foe rather than Venatori. After Haven on the templar path the rebel mages' fate are never even mentioned again; even though they continue to fight the Inquisition through conscription rather than brainwashing.

 

Recruit/banish Grey Wardens: Recruit

 

Considering their role in the series it seems fitting they're meant to play a part in fighting Corpheus rather than being vilified through banishment.

 

Celene/Briala/Gaspard: Celene

 

This one is more difficult. Considering the game leans more towards paragon choices it seems saving the empress from Corypheus' plot is the favored course. Reconciliation/banishment/execution of Briala though...? I don't know.

 

The Well of Sorrows: Morrigan

 

This way Morrigan plays a key role after the Temple of Mythal. It shows her punishment in her eagerness to preserve ancient power. Flemeth coming for her son (if he's an OGB) fits well if she's the one who drank. There's also an irony to Morrigan being bound to her mother after trying so hard to hide from her.

 

The Next Divine: Cassandra

 

Party banter is most focused on her becoming chosen. There's also a war table mission for her; unlike Leliana. Vivienne's isn't even an option unless she likes you. Cassandra also comes across as the compromising choice between the status quo (Vivienne) and radical change (Leliana).

[dantares83]

A female Dalish is the clear favourite is this game.
 

She has the most romance choices as an Elf (including the exclusive Solas) and has plenty of unique dialogue (more so if she is a mage).

[Amne YA]

Lol . This is your playthrought not what will happen
personally i favor the human race cause the inquisition teme is human and the mage templar conflict is human . A human who beleive he was choosen until he discover that was all caused by elven magic so his unger grow more against elfs
he choose the templar paths cause the magic paths was abviously a trap . When you are the last hope you don t jump to traps you choose thwthe safest way .
He let morigan drink and put gaspard or celen+gaspard in orlais . That my opinion

[congokong]

Lol . This is your playthrought not what will happen
personally i favor the human race cause the inquisition teme is human and the mage templar conflict is human . A human who beleive he was choosen until he discover that was all caused by elven magic so his unger grow more against elfs
he choose the templar paths cause the magic paths was abviously a trap . When you are the last hope you don t jump to traps you choose thwthe safest way .
He let morigan drink and put gaspard or celen+gaspard in orlais . That my opinion

"lol" The OP was not my playthrough. I never choose the mage path for example, yet I believe it's "meant" to happen more than the templar path.

[Mr Plow]

I would agree with most of the above except would say Leliana for Divine as a fitting climax to her journey from Leliana's Song as a naughty bard to conflicted lay sister in DAO to cynical and weary spy master in DA:I

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

also there should have been a pyjama party to celebrate Leliana becoming Divine

[trevelyan_shep]

You basically just described my first playthrough. Lol

 

I am annoyed however at how many Rouge items I get when I'm a Mage, and how many Mage items I get when I'm a Rogue.

 

Spoiler

After the DLC, I strongly lean toward the Female Mage Dalish more than ever too.

 

This. It royally pissed me off when I was playing my rogue and got all sorts of cool mage stuff and vice versa. 

 

On another note, it is kind of weird that you would get better mage equipment when siding with the templars than you do when siding with the mages. Particularly the staff you get from Calpernia and at the end of the Templar mission. I'm always stuck deciding which path to go to when a mage considering the cool staff's you could get. 

[congokong]

This. It royally pissed me off when I was playing my rogue and got all sorts of cool mage stuff and vice versa. 

 

On another note, it is kind of weird that you would get better mage equipment when siding with the templars than you do when siding with the mages. Particularly the staff you get from Calpernia and at the end of the Templar mission. I'm always stuck deciding which path to go to when a mage considering the cool staff's you could get. 

The staff of corruption? The main story is almost over by the time you get that, and you can make better staffs. Personally I'd never let rewards influence the role-playing choice my character would make.

[Nehn]

I prefer the Inquisitior drinking from the Well, Briala ruling (Elves back in power in Orlais), and Leliana Divine...

I think the game does lean toward most the choices you posted. I did hear the game leans toward Celene dying as the best outcome? Not sure if that's true.  

[Frybread76]

What is meant to happen is whatever choices you make in your individual playthroughs.

 

if the default options in the Keep are any indication, as far as the DA universe "default" goes for the comics I don't read, BioWare goes with a female human Inquisitor who allies with the rebel mages, rebuilds the Grey Wardens, leaves Hawke in the Fade, doesn't romance anyone (which fits in with past default protagonists), has Cassandra become Divine Victoria, keeps Celene on the throne of Orais, 

 

None of this might be correct, however, but these are the default options I've gotten in the Keep after unlocking them with playthroughs.  The other states are "hidden" still.

[riverbanks]

When telling a story, what choices do you believe Bioware geared you towards making and/or presents the best story?

 

What a sad state when RPG fans don't even recognize the most basic premise of roleplaying anymore.

 

Nothing is "meant" to happen. Nothing presents the "best" story. The best story is your story, that's why the whole RPG genre exists. If there was a story "meant" to happen in a certain way we would not have hundreds of different choices to make, we would just play through a linear pre-told story where our choices are all already made for us.

 

The only things that's ever meant to happen in your game is what you make of it.

[congokong]

What a sad state when RPG fans don't even recognize the most basic premise of roleplaying anymore.

 

Nothing is "meant" to happen. Nothing presents the "best" story. The best story is your story, that's why the whole RPG genre exists. If there was a story "meant" to happen in a certain way we would not have hundreds of different choices to make, we would just play through a linear pre-told story where our choices are all already made for us.

 

The only things that's ever meant to happen in your game is what you make of it.

Why is it there are always people on these threads arguing that I have choices? I'm aware I have choices. I'm aware it's a rpg. And yet, the game at times certainly tells a better story following one path, as well as nudges you towards certain choices. Ex: In DA:O the game encourages you to recruit Sten even though I didn't so much as suggest freeing him, and yet there it was in the quest log with tons of dialogue options with various NPCs to have him released.

[Kinsz]

What is " meant" to happen is in the default keep, human quizzy , that happens to be a female and a rogue. Yes yes I know there really isn't a canon as of yet but i thought I'd reply to OP anyways.

[Lee80]

Worth mentioning is the fact that your world state described in the first post would actually put Lelianna into the seat of Divine.  It's a point system based on your choices through out the game.  Siding with the mages and conscripting the Grey wardends are the 2 big choices that push Lelianna into the lead of that race.  

[BSpud]

if the default options in the Keep are any indication, as far as the DA universe "default" goes for the comics I don't read, BioWare goes with a female human Inquisitor who allies with the rebel mages, rebuilds the Grey Wardens, leaves Hawke in the Fade, doesn't romance anyone (which fits in with past default protagonists), has Cassandra become Divine Victoria, keeps Celene on the throne of Orais, 

 

It's a little eerie to read my canon playthrough summed up! Usually there's a divergence with a choice or two.

 

Edit: You didn't mention class, though. I have warrior. My canon is probably what most players would consider "boring," I guess. Last time I checked, I couldn't get the Keep to load correctly, so interesting that this is the default (with a rogue class, though, I'm surmising).

[BSpud]

Worth mentioning is the fact that your world state described in the first post would actually put Lelianna into the seat of Divine.  It's a point system based on your choices through out the game.  Siding with the mages and conscripting the Grey wardends are the 2 big choices that push Lelianna into the lead of that race.  

 

It's not a done deal, though. I made those choices and got Cassandra as Divine.

[Lavaeolus]

While elves play a big role in Inquisition, from Sera and Solas who actually have opinions about their, uh, elf-yness (contrast Zevran or Fenris most of the time), to the big reveal at the temple, the story is still told from the perspective of a human. For most of the story the Elf Inquisitor has little in the overall story, and the temple doesn't change to adjust to a "we're recovering my lost history" tone.

[Frybread76]

It's a little eerie to read my canon playthrough summed up! Usually there's a divergence with a choice or two.
 
Edit: You didn't mention class, though. I have warrior. My canon is probably what most players would consider "boring," I guess. Last time I checked, I couldn't get the Keep to load correctly, so interesting that this is the default (with a rogue class, though, I'm surmising).

I think my Keep shows a rogue female human Inquisitor. Also, the settings show the Inquisitor did not befriend any of the companions. I guess this leaves the writers the most freedom moving forward.

[draken-heart]

Honestly, the "default" is really just what Boiware uses to tell their stories (the books and comics mainly). It has nothing to do with what we the players do in the game or the keep. They are all "meant" to happen based on us and out choices in-game/in the keep.

[(Disgusted noise.)]

The mental gymnastics that elf fans perform in discussions like these never cease to amuse me.