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its much easier to kill people with guns than with, for example, knifes. i doubt there would be amok runs with 30 deads if the attacking persons would be armed with nothing but a knife. just an example.

Right......

 

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Right......

http://www.cnn.com/2...railway-attack/


Ah, but he said thirty, and that article provides an example of twenty nine being killed.
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Of course that doesn't mean I don't support certain restrictions like having a longer waiting period (3 weeks to 1 month) or having a more extensive background check for those who want to possess automatic weapons and/or handguns.

 

Either way, I love firearms and I can't wait to get my FOID and get a Mosin-Nagant for less than 200 bucks! God bless the Russian Empire and Soviet Union for making them by the millions. 



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The fact is the guns are here to stay. And if someone really wants a gun, it isn't hard to get one illegally, especially here in the States. If guns suddenly became illegal, the Cartels would just have one more thing to smuggle across the border.

How about we focus on mental health care, as most of the gun related deaths in the world are suicides?


Because it's easier to use guns as a political scapegoat than it is to address the problem?
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It would also keep a psycho from running amok and killing thirty people if each of those thirty people carried a gun to defend themselves.

Just saying.

american logic: give everyone a gun to make the world a safer place :rolleyes:



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#82
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american logic: give everyone a gun to make the world a safer place :rolleyes:

Nope, just give every responsible and rational owner a gun and the world will be a safer place. ^_^



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If a sumb*tch wants to take ya, sumb*tch is gonna take ya.  Gun or no gun.

 

That's the bottom line.


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american logic: give everyone a gun to make the world a safer place :rolleyes:


Your logic: making something illegal means criminals won't have it.

My reaction:

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If a sumb*tch wants to take ya, sumb*tch is gonna take ya.  Gun or no gun.

 

That's the bottom line.

 



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Your logic: making something illegal means criminals won't have it.

compare the number of people killed by firearms in germany with the number in the usa. (hint: also in germany we have criminals who have guns)
i also cant remember to have ever read in the newspaper that a little child accidentally shot someone in germany. seems to happen "sometimes" in the usa though.

but its useless to argue with americans against guns. who knows, maybe if i would do it face-to-face i would even get shot?

have fun with your guns and dont complain if you should ever get shot.



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compare the number of people killed by firearms in germany with the number in the usa. (hint: also in germany we have criminals who have guns)
i also cant remember to have ever read in the newspaper that a little child accidentally shot someone in germany. seems to happen "sometimes" in the usa though.
but its useless to argue with americans against guns. who knows, maybe if i would do it face-to-face i would even get shot?
have fun with your guns and dont complain if you should ever get shot.


If a kid gets shot, it's usually because the gun wasn't secured properly. That's not the gun's fault, it's the fault of the gun owner as an individual.

And as I said, the vast majority of gun related deaths, something like two thirds, are suicides. If someone wants to kill themselves, there are any number of methods to do so. They don't need a gun to do it. That's part of the reason we need to strengthen the mental health system.

The last time I checked, Germany didn't have anywhere near the same trouble with gangs that the U.S. does. Nor does it have to worry about the cartels on its southern border. And Germany is much, much smaller than the U.S., and thus far easier to police.

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If a kid gets shot, it's usually because the gun wasn't secured properly. That's not the gun's fault, it's the fault of the gun owner as an individual.

And as I said, the vast majority of gun related deaths, something like two thirds, are suicides. If someone wants to kill themselves, there are any number of methods to do so. They don't need a gun to do it. That's part of the reason we need to strengthen the mental health system.

The last time I checked, Germany didn't have anywhere near the same trouble with gangs that the U.S. does. Nor does it have to worry about the cartels on its southern border. And Germany is much, much smaller than the U.S., and thus far easier to police.

 

Some word of advice. There is no point to argue with people like that. They have already set their opinions on what they want to believe, so argueing with them is a waste of time. The only thing that will change their mind is when a situation arises, and they need a firearm which they won't have due to beliefs. Other then that, it's wasted air.


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Some word of advice. There is no point to argue with people like that. They have already set their opinions on what they want to believe, so argueing with them is a waste of time.

its the same thing with people like you. :rolleyes:



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its the same thing with people like you. :rolleyes:

 

I am well aware. :) So there is no point to argue until a situation arises, and we'll see who the actual victor is. ;)



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this thread got even more boring when it turned into americans and everybody else arguing about firearm ownership

seriously you should talk about guns that a girl can actually respect

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this thread got even more boring when it turned into americans and everybody else arguing about firearm ownership

seriously you should talk about guns that a girl can actually respect

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Lady, you couldn't even fire a BB gun without breaking your wrist - so kindly shut the hell up.



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dead serious. the world would be a much better place without f*cking guns.

 

No, the world would be a better place without stupid people. Frankly the "right" that anyone can buy a gun, no matter how dense, is stupidity of the highest order. Much the same with voting, stupid people should not be allowed to vote, because funnily enough they're thick as sh*t. 

 

Rights should be earned, not given. But, apparently I'm in the minority, much of the civilized world has lost it's mind and is happy to foster generations of feckless ingrates, who can't butter a piece of bread, let alone come to a rational coherent decision. 



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No, the world would be a better place without stupid people. Frankly the "right" that anyone can buy a gun, no matter how dense, is stupidity of the highest order. Much the same with voting, stupid people should not be allowed to vote, because funnily enough they're thick as sh*t. 
 
Rights should be earned, not given. But, apparently I'm in the minority, much of the civilized world has lost it's mind and is happy to foster generations of feckless ingrates, who can't butter a piece of bread, let alone come to a rational coherent decision.


Who gets to decide who is "stupid", though? There's a lot of potential for that to be abused by those in power.

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Lady, you couldn't even fire a BB gun without breaking your wrist - so kindly shut the hell up.

 

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No, the world would be a better place without stupid people.

i would like to agree, but... just as an example, i guess "some" people here think i´m stupid because i am against guns, and i think these people are stupid. who is right?
of course, they would say that they are right, and i would say that i am right. no clear answer.



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i would like to agree, but... just as an example, i guess "some" people here think i´m stupid because i am against guns, and i think these people are stupid. who is right?
of course, they would say that they are right, and i would say that i am right. no clear answer.

 

The only person that is right isn't a person at all. It's the almighty Tetris Cube.

 

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i would like to agree, but... just as an example, i guess "some" people here think i´m stupid because i am against guns, and i think these people are stupid. who is right?
of course, they would say that they are right, and i would say that i am right. no clear answer.


Well, I do think you're coming off as pretty stupid, but it's because of the way you disagree with me, not simply because you disagree. You're very obviously parroting what the media has told you to believe on the subject at hand without actually considering and creating your own opinion.

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this thread got even more boring when it turned into americans and everybody else arguing about firearm ownershipseriously you should talk about guns that a girl can actually respectM159024.jpg


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