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[God]

I don't mind it if the person can actually afford it since the skill level to use one for long distance shots isn't common.

 

Having fired them (multiple times), I can tell you that it is challenging, but not significantly difficult for anyone who knows how to hold the rifle. You lean into it and put it into your chest more than your shoulder. If you're good at math, you can make some long range shots easily enough. The round is heavy enough that anything but high winds and the coriolis effect won't affect the trajectory. 

 

In this case, it's serving to reinforce my point. It's not a terribly difficult weapon to use (we assign it to DM's in platoons), and that's the worrying part. 

[Dr.Fumbles]

Having fired them (multiple times), I can tell you that it is challenging, but not significantly difficult for anyone who knows how to hold the rifle. You lean into it and put it into your chest more than your shoulder. If you're good at math, you can make some long range shots easily enough. The round is heavy enough that anything but high winds and the coriolis effect won't affect the trajectory. 

 

In this case, it's serving to reinforce my point. It's not a terribly difficult weapon to use (we assign it to DM's in platoons), and that's the worrying part. 

 

Interesting. I shot my friends old barret before(The 30 pound one. I forgot the model name), and I didn't like it. If I was to be the DM, I would rather go .338 lapua magnum over .50cal. The rounds and gun are lighter, and they do the same thing.

[Jstatham1227]

You know as much as I love firearms, I'm a little uncomfortable with the notion of anyone other than Military or Law Enforcement possessing anything chambered in .50. I know the incident rate for that caliber is among the lowest, but still....

I imagine anyone regularly using such a caliber to be of that "john wayne" stereotype. Just only favoring for it for the fact it's so powerful and that's that size of caliber enters almost a ridiculous realm in terms of practically. I fail to see the draw frankly.  

[Cknarf]

You know as much as I love firearms, I'm a little uncomfortable with the notion of anyone other than Military or Law Enforcement possessing anything chambered in .50. I know the incident rate for that caliber is among the lowest, but still....

 

It's not like anyone other than a serious collector (or a random lucky less-than-rich enthusiast *crosses fingers*) would end up with one anyways.  That's like saying you're not comfortable with anyone possessing a sports car who's not a professional race driver lol.  

 

There are many shooters out there, with no military/police experience that are more than responsible/skilled enough to own such things. That's why I find it odd that some states have banned these. Safety is number one in the shooting sports, and more than likely, the guy dropping 12,000 bucks on a single rifle is pretty damn interested in shooting, and holds safety in high regard.

 

Aaaaanyways, back to that price tag...

 

Just think of all the Mosin Nagants you could buy for $12,000!  Let's see...

 

$175 a piece (Avg.)

 

That's like, 65 Mosins w/free shipping!

 

Before the sanctions, you could buy them in crates of 20!

 

Spoiler

 

*sigh.*

[Cknarf]

I imagine anyone regularly using such a caliber to be of that "john wayne" stereotype. Just only favoring for it for the fact it's so powerful and that's that size of caliber enters almost a ridiculous realm in terms of practically. I fail to see the draw frankly.  

 

Just like the Desert Eagle, it's more of a novelty thing. It's not something one would shoot often, just once in awhile, you know?

 

I've got a Pontiac Firebird, and a Toyota Tercel.

 

The Firebird has a 7.5L engine, goes really fast, and gets 6 miles per gallon. The Tercel has a 1.5, is extremely slow, and gets a little over 35 on a really good day.

 

Take a guess which one I drive to work every day lol.

[Dr.Fumbles]

Just like the Desert Eagle, it's more of a novelty thing. It's not something one would shoot often, just once in awhile, you know?

 

I've got a Pontiac Firebird, and a Toyota Tercel.

 

The Firebird has a 7.5L engine, goes really fast, and gets 6 miles per gallon. The Tercel has a 1.5, is extremely slow, and gets a little over 35 on a really good day.

 

Take a guess which one I drive to work every day lol.

 

It depends where I am going, but I generally prefer the 1911(any brand) over something like that. For regular conceal carry, I prefer something a little bit smaller.

[Cknarf]

I just have a little .380 for daily carry.  I carry inside the waistband, and I'm not about to try and shove a big 'ol 1911 in there lol.

 

I considered carrying my XD .45  in the winter time. Since I'm always wearing a heavy jacket, I could probably manage OWB carry.

 

I'm happy with my current set up though, so I probably won't bother carrying anything else.

[Rorschachinstein]

Just like the Desert Eagle, it's more of a novelty thing. It's not something one would shoot often, just once in awhile, you know?

 

 

I would agree. Shooting a desert eagle is not enjoyable.

[Dr.Fumbles]

I just have a little .380 for daily carry.  I carry inside the waistband, and I'm not about to try and shove a big 'ol 1911 in there lol.

 

I considered carrying my XD .45  in the winter time. Since I'm always wearing a heavy jacket, I could probably manage OWB carry.

 

I'm happy with my current set up though, so I probably won't bother carrying anything else.

 

Nice. I want to buy a little Taurus .380 for my carry. I just need the funds.

[Cknarf]

I had one of those little Taurus TCPs

 

 

To this date, it is the only gun I have ever sold lol.

 

It functioned well enough, but wasn't fun to shoot at all.  I guess that's not really the point with this one, though.

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

to feed the fire

 

I had one of those little Taurus TCPs

 

 

To this date, it is the only gun I have ever sold lol.

 

It functioned well enough, but wasn't fun to shoot at all.  I guess that's not really the point with this one, though.

 

Thug life chose you?

Can that kill a duck?

[AventuroLegendary]

to feed the fire

 

Let me pitch in!

 

 

pls dont hurt me

[Jstatham1227]

 

[Voxr]

 

 

What's the point? Why not use a drum instead? 

[Cknarf]

^That company was thumbing their nose at some newly passed legislation limiting magazine capacity to ten rounds, if I remember correctly.

[Voxr]

^That company was thumbing their nose at some newly passed legislation limiting magazine capacity to ten rounds, if I remember correctly.

Oh ok makes more sense then lol 

[Jstatham1227]

^^^^^^

spoke for me

 

It's purely appeal based for what I can tell. Frankly, would probably go with a drum myself. 

 

Drum time? 

 

 

seriously, just going to post video's all day in this thread. lel

[Cknarf]

[Voxr]

 

*throws money at the screen*

 

Now that's gotta be some fun.

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

 

Hipster gun or punk gun?

[Dr.Fumbles]

Hipster gun or punk gun?

 

I would say it's fun to shoot it looks like, but for practicality. It's a no no.

[Deathangel008]

Just to clarify something. Most civilains can't own assault rifles. It requires a lv3 license and tons of money to get that license to own a fully automatic weapon which is what an Assault rifle is. Civilians own semi-automatic rifles. There is a difference. It is illegal to mod an AR(ArmaLite Rifle model 15. The original name given. People just made it a broad term.) Most AR, AKs, SKS are semi-automatic weapons like most modern day pistols.

i know this. but a semi-automatic 5,56x45mm AR is still more devastating than a 9x19mm pistol.

Please use correct terminology next time.

and what would be the "correct terminology" for a semi-automatic assault rifle?
 

What do we need them for, you ask? Hunting, sport shooting, home defense/self defense, and, in the absolute worst case scenario possible, defense against an oppressive government.

hmm, for sport shooting you can go to a shooting range, and for hunting and "home/self defense" you dont need a semi-automatic AR. and "defense against an oppressive government"? well, the government controls the army... and they have ballistic vests, full automatic ARs and heavier weapons... just sayin.
but thats just my opinion.

the video Zerc posted here makes a good point: the only reason for having a gun is: "f*ck off. i like guns." (and yes, i know its comedy)
 

This is akin to my own thoughts on guns. I'm not anti gun, I just don't think they should be given out like candy and I find the US mentality to be almost fanatical about it sometimes. The US is hardly more safe then a lot of countries that have stricted gun laws.

this. so much this.

I once had a guy who was pro guns in America say he could prove that less gun laws made it safer by telling me that in Washington or something they allowed people to carry guns around freely and there was no gun deaths for 2 days....

2 days! CALL THE GUINNESS BOOK OF WORLD RECORDS FOLKS! The mere fact he thought that was proof is far more concerning to me.

wow... i dont know if i shall laugh or cry at this.

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to add something on-topic... because i love guns in video games...

best rifle ever. /thread

[Cainhurst Crow]

Guns as a means of protecting ones self is kinda a hard argument. You gotta be a really good shot to be effective with anything other then a shotgun if your dealing with a real, solid threat situation, where you'll be caught off guard and not in a good place to turn the tables. Which means going to the range/wherever you shoot and shooting a lot, like say a box of 50 rounds of 9mm, common round and good quantity, cost 20 dollars ((It rarely will)). You'd probably need to go through, being incredibly lax in practice and such, 1000 rounds a week or so to keep your skills honed. That's about 20 boxes of 50 round ammo, which comes out to 400  dollars a week, 1600 a month, to be good with a handgun, rather then a shotgun or rifle with grip, or one of those cheating pistols that might as well be a rifle type guns.

 

I see them more as something for recreational purposes, a nice hobby to keep your hand/eye coordination and focus up like Darts or Golf, only funner and with a bit more excitement every time you hear a satisfying pop through the thick earmuffs and see a breif flash through the cheap plastic safety glasses. You can kill people with guns, but you can kill people with darts to. And there's more then one story of people bludgeoning others to death with golf clubs. So yeah, it's more just irresponsible gun owners who either sell guns to people who are gonna do bad stuff with em, like selling them out of a van in a bad neighborhood, or leaving them in places they can get easily stolen either from relatives or strangers doing a robbery.

 

This is mine. It's a Ruger P95. 9mm.

 

 

It's simple. It's durable. Easy to take apart, clean, put back together, and fire. It was cheap enough to cost less then 500 but not so cheap you know its gonna be a piece of ****. And it's from a common brand so replacement parts aren't going to be like finding a needle in a internet haystack. It does what a gun should do, without costing me a good chunk of paycheck and a sore shoulder.

 

In a lot of ways, a gun is a lot like a car, now that I think about it.

[Cainhurst Crow]

and what would be the "correct terminology" for a semi-automatic assault rifle?
 

 

A Semi-Automatic Rifle. You could call it a "Battle Rifle" if you'd like, but honestly that's not a good term to use, kinda pretentious really. Like calling a compact off road car a "Rally Car" without it actually being a car for rallycross.

[Draining Dragon]

Not surprisingly, Deathangel is completely ignorant with regards to firearms.