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There's already been a few threads on this topic (here and here), but they haven't been updated in a while, and I feel some clarification is in order based on what I've learned from my own gaming experience.

 

You should be hearing party banter about every 15mins, give or take a few (I've had banter trigger anywhere from 11 to 17mins). If you are not hearing banter this often, there are a few things you could try.

 

No banter? Give this a try

  • Get off that mount - banter won't trigger while riding mounts and is believed to pause the 15min timer
     
  • Don't move around so much - loading screens will restart the 15min timer, so think twice before fast traveling from Exalted Plains to the Emprise. Traveling between camps is safe, but certain areas within maps locations will also bring up the loading screen (noted below).
     
  • Don't leave your game on pause - bringing up the menu screen pauses the 15min timer. Leveling your characters can't be helped, but if you are getting up from the game to grab a snack or use the bathroom, it might be a good idea to leave the game running. Waiting to travel to Skyhold to go through your inventory will also mean less of a wait between banters.
     
  • Play the game with a timer - You'll be surprised how many times you are ready to leave a map only to look down at your watch and realize you have 3mins till your next banter. Don't waste the 12mins you've already spent. Find an excuse to stick around and leave the area after the banter has triggered. 

Some "fixes" that might help

  • Untick new items - check your journal, inventory, and codexes. New items will have a yellow star next them. Hover over the item to get the star to disappear. Do this for everything. The theory is that these new items clog up the system somehow and prevent banter from triggering. This is especially important early game as there is a lot of new content to untick. As you progress through the game, you'll have to keep up with this less and less.
     
  • When leaving Skyhold only fast travel from the war table. Don't know why it works, but it has helped some people. (Does not work at Haven)
     
  • Try playing offline.

Wait, you actually are getting banter!

  • Turn on subtitles - there may be something wrong with your sound system, and though banter is triggering, you just aren't hearing it.
     
  • Map-specific dialogue - your companions have dialogue that relates to each specific map area. For example, in the Emerald Graves, Cole might say something like "It's peaceful here." In the Emprise, Dorian complains about the cold. These trigger just like normal party banter and count as such, meaning that if a one-liner is triggered, you'll have to wait another 15mins in the hopes of hearing normal party banter. Horror of horrors, right?!

    There's no way to avoid these as every companion has specific map-related dialogue. However, if you do hear a one-liner from someone, it may be an indication that specific companion has nothing to say to the others at the moment (some banters only trigger at certain map areas or after completing certain central quests). Switch the offending party member out for someone else or change your party up entirely to increase your changes of hearing normal banter.

Party banter, not to be confused with...

  • Location specific banter - there is some banter that triggers upon encountering specific locations. For example, when approaching the shore in the Storm Coast, Varric will comment on the journey from Kirkwall. Someone in your party will comment when approaching the red lyrium in Emrpise Du Lion. These do not count as party banter. Meaning, they will not reset the 15min timer.
     
  • Quest specific banter - some banter triggers upon completing or approaching quests. For example, Cassandra will say "another rogue mage/templar" when working on her "Unfinished Business" quest. Blackwall will comment when picking up Grey Warden items. Someone will comment when approaching a place to camp. These do not count as party banter and do not reset the 15min timer.

Map areas to take note

  • The Western Approach - there's a reported bug that party banter does not trigger no matter what you do. There is no known fix for this, and thus it may be best to limit your time there.
     
  • The Hissing Wastes - reported to be the best location for party banter as it seems to trigger more frequently (in the 11 to 13mins range).
     
  • The Flooded Caves in Old Crestwood, the Vilas in the Emerald Graves, and Coracavus in The Western Approach will cause a loading screen. Banter doesn't trigger inside them, though quest specific dialogue will. Best to check your watch between entering these to make sure you're not about to have banter fire and lose the time you've spent waiting. 

It's supposed to do that

Normal Banter will not trigger in the following areas (though quest specific dialogue may occur):

  • Haven
  • Skyhold
  • Abor Wilds
  • The Winter Palace
  • Vilas in the Emerald Graves
  • Val Royeaux
  • Cradle of Sulevin
  • The Fade
  • Lost Temple of Dirthamen
  • Therinfal Redoubt

I still don't have banter. Now what?

  • Sit down with a watch - record the time when you enter a new map area. Note the time, fifteen minutes from then when you should hear banter. If you get on a mount, note how much time you spend riding and extend the expected time of banter by that amount. If you pause the game, extend the expected time again. If you encounter a loading screen, you have to start the timer all over again.

    Example (I'm completely making this up):
    7:50 - entered Emerald Graves
    8:00 - entered villa - loading screen
    8:15 - exited villa - lading screen - timer reset
    8:22 - mounted
    8:27 - dismounted - banter paused 5 minutes
    8:32 - leveled characters
    8:36 - finished leveling - banter paused 3 minutes
    8:38 - Cole comments on the trees, damn it - banter in 22mins since villa - 8mins paused = 15mins
    8:40 - fast travel to camp, switched out Cole for Sera
    8:42 - Cassandra commented on Venitori - quest related?
    8:52 - Sera and Solas argue - party banter 14mins since last

    It's entirely possible, from the example above, if only looking at start and end time to believe it took an hour to hear banter. You need to take map-specific dialogue, pauses, mounts, and loading screens into account. If you sit down with the game and time yourself and take everything in this guide into account and find that you are still not getting banter, congratulations your game is bugged.

I have a bugged game!!!

  • There's a banter toggle to manually trigger banter - only works if you only play on PC.
     
  • Consider repurchasing or upgrading - it's not known what causes the banter bug. Players with older systems seem to report more bugs with the game. Therefore, replacing or upgrading your system might be worthwhile. However, this is not recommended as it can be expensive, and people across all platforms have experienced banter issues. That said, if banter is really important to your gaming experience, it might be worth selling your console copy for a PC one so you can use the banter toggle as it's the only fix we have at this time.
     
  • Give it time - although only one of the patches released for the game were reported to specifically target banter issues, some players have reported banter getting better (and sometimes worse) after nearly every patch release. If you've been having trouble with banter, you might get lucky with a new patch. There's no telling if any patches will help, but it's always worth a try.

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The follow-up to this should be suggestions about who to put in your party to have funny banter versus which characters to avoid putting together because the banter ends up being mean and nasty.

 

For example, Solas works well with most other party members except for Iron Bull.  He always draws Bull into a political discussion where he highlights the oppressive nature of the Qunari regime.  I totally agree with him on the points he makes, but the Bull is such a mellow guy, it seems mean to put him on the spot.

 

Vivienne, OTOH, is almost motherly to Iron Bull, but her snobbery is too much with Sera.  Vivienne also doesn't work well with Blackwall, although it seems he's the one who picks fights with her.

 

Varric works well with everybody; everybody admires the dwarf!



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The follow-up to this should be suggestions about who to put in your party to have funny banter versus which characters to avoid putting together because the banter ends up being mean and nasty.

 

Unfortunately, everyone is going to have completely different opinions on this.



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Nice post @Heidirs!

Would you be open to making this into a wiki page? I think it could help a lot of people :)



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Would you be open to making this into a wiki page? I think it could help a lot of people :)

 

I would, yes. Though, I don't know which specific wiki you are referring to.



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Hi :)

I'm meaning here. There was a lot of talk about the banter not working so I think your guide would be a great addition - of course with credit and a link back to your post or whichever profile you would like :)



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Yeah, if you'd be willing to post it and link back to the source (here). That would be fine. 

 

I think, I would just add, if people have questions, they should come back to this topic, because I don't have a profile on that site and I don't watch it. But I am watching this, and I'd happy to address whatever comes up, if anything.


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Hi :)

Yes I'll link to this discussion and your profile - as I usually do so people can find their way to the official forum! But it will also help the desperate passerby.

Thank you for a good guide :D



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Can you the post the link from the wiki when it's up? I'd just like to have it.



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Added the Flooded Caves in Crestwood as one of those loading screen areas that restarts the timer and doesn't have banter



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Hi :)

Link is here: http://dragonage3.wi...ty Banter Guide- feel free to edit anything you think should be different!

 

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Thanks!


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hi! all

 

i just read through the thread in its entirety but heres the thing i have done all that 15 minutes waiting and calculations but it only works sometimes not always...and to my rage most of those sometimes occurring banters happen either when i have left dai unpaused to go to drink water or to pee or such (darned luck i guess)...but im still trying...

 

on that note though...can someone point me to the companions that generate most banters (not just in hissing wastes but any or every location)?...also is there any update on 'banters in val royeaux'?..i have tried taking sera, ironbull and cassandra there in my current playthrough and waited for an hour but nothing happened..

 

another thing...i did find out (though i m not exactly sure when the conversation reached the point and in which location..im sorry) that prolonged journey with sera and viv being the 2 companions and the 3rd companion being who ever gets the arguments and quarrels between sear and viv to a point where the inquisitor has to intervene and stop their fights by saying 1 of the 3 provided choices...

 

now the above stated fact is a sure one as i do remember it happening but it happened too fast and i was dossing off a moment before seeing the conversation happen as i was waiting for banters to start and because of that dossing off i happened to encounter this but only remember it ever so vaguely (hence, if anyone else knows of this and knows the 'when', the 'where' and 'how' it would be wonderful to know)



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i just read through the thread in its entirety but heres the thing i have done all that 15 minutes waiting and calculations but it only works sometimes not always...and to my rage most of those sometimes occurring banters happen either when i have left dai unpaused to go to drink water or to pee or such (darned luck i guess)...but im still trying...

 

It's possible your game has a bug, though it's good that it works at least some of the time. Keep trying. I'll cross my fingers for you.

Some people have reported their banter getting better (and sometimes worse) with patches. That's how mine finally started working. So there's always the chance of things improving.

 

 

 

on that note though...can someone point me to the companions that generate most banters (not just in hissing wastes but any or every location)?...also is there any update on 'banters in val royeaux'?..i have tried taking sera, ironbull and cassandra there in my current playthrough and waited for an hour but nothing happened..

 

I don't know if there's more banter from different companions depending on location. That's an interesting thought, but I don't know.

 

I don't think there is banter in Val Royeaux. I haven't tested it out myself as I got really bored wandering around there. So there's the possibility that there might be, but given how other quest related locations in the game don't have banter, I don't think there is banter there.

 

 

another thing...i did find out (though i m not exactly sure when the conversation reached the point and in which location..im sorry) that prolonged journey with sera and viv being the 2 companions and the 3rd companion being who ever gets the arguments and quarrels between sear and viv to a point where the inquisitor has to intervene and stop their fights by saying 1 of the 3 provided choices...

 

now the above stated fact is a sure one as i do remember it happening but it happened too fast and i was dossing off a moment before seeing the conversation happen as i was waiting for banters to start and because of that dossing off i happened to encounter this but only remember it ever so vaguely (hence, if anyone else knows of this and knows the 'when', the 'where' and 'how' it would be wonderful to know)

 

This is just a matter of getting enough banter to trigger between Vivienne and Sera. After they have exhausted so much dialogue, the Inquisitor can intervene. I had the same thing happen with Dorian and Blackwall. After they have gone through so much banter, the Inquisitor can tell them to stop arguing. It's just a matter of having them in the party enough to have all that banter trigger. 


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Edited original post and put the areas within maps that cause loading screens in the "map eras to take note" section.



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Thanks so much for this! This game is so much more enjoyable now that I can finally accurately predict banter.


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That's great news! I'm glad it is working for you!



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Heyyy I have a question..
 
Does the party barter end? you know, I used the cheat table to make them chat more often, but now they are quiet. I don't know if this it ended somehow, I tried to travel around to see if resets but it doesn't, I think is strange because I saw on other topics that is there people who is seeing the same kind of conversation, even without mods or something, so the conversation of the companios ends  sat some time? I really hope not.
 


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It certainly can end, if you've already heard all of it. But that is highly unlikely.