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[Excella Gionne]

Don't really care. If my GI Shuriken won an assguard and flamer Vsol, nothing is worth banning. Shuriken, on the other hand, needs to be nerf'd.

[muy_thaiguy]

So much hate for the Vorcha, the King of Flame Booms! And I don't see too many other kits that can shrug off Gold Banshee Warp Balls while burning a group of ravagers without worrying about their acid.

 

A kit I have tried, and failed horribly at, is the Geth Infiltrator. Yeah, he can do a ton of damage, but he makes glass cannons look solid. In other words, I tend to die a lot with him. And I mean a LOT.

 

Haven't really tried the Drell or the ball people with gasmasks.

 

Weapons wise, SMGs. I only have a few of them, and only 2 are maxed. Though I do enjoy heavy pistols, particularly the executioner (especially on the Vorcha soldier) and of course, the Acolyte on my biotic kits.

 

Powers, Geth Hunter vision. Why? I get breathed on by husks and I go down. I know some people are like "Oh, it's the most amazing thing ever!" Until you find yourself getting swarmed by enemies.

[Quarian Master Race]

A kit I have tried, and failed horribly at, is the Geth Infiltrator. Yeah, he can do a ton of damage, but he makes glass cannons look solid. In other words, I tend to die a lot with him. And I mean a LOT.

GI is only a glass cannon if you play it with no fitness and no shield equipment/gear, which most people don't. 750 base shields is more than most other infiltrators and HM only penalizes base shields (375 points), thus you can either take some fitness or throw a cyclonic on it, and it becomes extremely survivable because it is both tanky and has high movement speed. Alternatively, take all the shield recharge specs and Power Cells 3, and laugh as your shields come back faster than they can be knocked out.

I wouldn't have nearly the same problem with that character if it actually were a glass cannon, but it isn't. It is more survivable than any kit that isn't the AIU or TGI (SI gets a shout against geth) while having more damage output than anything else in the game.

[D-Rock0713]

There are certain things I don't use not necessarily because they're overpowered, but because I've been turned off to using them from watching others. Particularly kits with Flamer and Recon Mine. If I can't see the map anymore because of a power, then I don't plan to use it.

[Matthias King]

It's funny because I was just thinking about this very thing yesterday. I was thinking about characters and weapons I'd be happy to never see in a match again.

 

Characters:

All Geth - The Geth Engineer much less than the rest, but the Geth Infiltrator/Piranha, and especially the Geth Trooper and Juggernaut have made me never want to see another geth again.

All Vorcha - I'm so sick of Flamer it's not even funny. The Engineer is just a victim of his brothers spoiling it for him. I never want to see another Vorcha.

Talon Mercenary - Constantly exploding Cain mines and never ending Omni-bow spawning. All. Match. Long.

Drell Assassin - Never ending, non-stop Recon Mine explosions. And nothing else. All. Match. Long. Always.

All Volus - They just don't belong in the game to begin with, but more than that, I'm sick of constant Shield Boost spamming, especially when it glitches my character out.

Turian Ghost - I actually like this character, but since I literally almost never see anything but Harrier/TGI, they go on the list.

Alliance Infiltration Unit - Same story as the TGI, but with the Reegar/Venom

 

Weapons:

Harrier

Reegar

Adas - mainly because the sound of it firing is so incredibly annoying, even if they're on the other side of the map.

Particle Rifle.

Venom - See AIU

Piranha - See Geth Infiltrator

 

Powers:

Flamer

Omni-Bow

Cain Trip Mine

Recon Mine

[RealKobeBean]

This hurts me.

 

Sorry, Clyde. Love you like a brother, but I hate that kit with a passion. Can't help it. I'm not saying nobody makes this kit work, but I just don't have a particular connection with this kit. If the Hunter works for you, that's awesome.

[GruntKitterhand]

Juggy is lol. I have never deployed that piece of crap on any of my accounts, and I never will. It is the antithesis of my playing style, and I could never see myself having fun with it unless I put on a Batglove just to troll some other BSNers.

 

I will be very disappointed if you're not as good as your word.  I may even join you (with the Batglove), despite having more or less decided that I wouldn't bother deploying him again, along with the Talon Engineer and Krogan Warlord.  And the Shuriken.

 

Other than that, I play whatever the hell I want, and afford others the same freedom to enjoy themselves however they want.  I will frequently switch characters or ammo in the lobby if I'm the odd one out, as I'm always hunting for the Holy Grail of team synergy in pugs. I very rarely play the supposedly OP combinations, but I reserve the right to do so without any guilt or embarrassment.  I usually don't play any character for more than 2 or 3 games at a time, so none of them ever seem boring, with the single exception of the TGI Harrier. It's just too much - I do want some challenge when I play.

 

And Sinful, I've gotta just say that gimping the Paladin by skipping Snap Freeze strikes me as an act of vandalism.  You say you do these things to keep the game interesting, but I really don't believe you in this instance.  The way you've described "Snap Cheese" as an "I win" button is something of a prejudiced exaggeration, especially when you're talking about a character who doesn't have the only genuine "I win" button in the game to go with it.  It's not Repair Matrix.  It's not Stimpack, Cloak, Shield Boost or even Grenades, Reave or Dark Channel.  Sure, SF might have a skewing effect on the game's score, but this game is not all about score, for some of us at least.  An aggressively played melee Paladin is one of the greatest, almost unique experiences you can have in this game, and SF plays a valid role in that experience. I'm not sure it's fair to try to put people off using him that way, even in partial jest.  He's too much fun to miss out on.

 

Also, talking of prejudices, I've spent the past 20 years assuming that Canadians had no correct understanding of irony, thanks to the Voice of God herself, but it seems you do after all, you dirty glitching cheat!   

[DaemionMoadrin]

I will gladly play Juggernaut for you guys.

[acicm2]

Deciding to make one. So for me it's no more;

 

 

- GT with Flamer focus

- Snap Freeze

- any nade that isn't regular Frag & Homing

- SRs on Infiltrators.

 

- Reeger

- Acolyte

 

- Nade Capacity

 

*while reading your list*

 

*after reading your list*

 

all in all

[Deerber]

I wouldn't have nearly the same problem with that character if it actually were a glass cannon, but it isn't. It is more survivable than any kit that isn't the AIU or TGI (SI gets a shout against geth) while having more single target damage output than anything else in the game.

Fixed.

[JRandall0308]

Every time we have one of these discussions I vow to play what other people hate in my next match.

 

However since I rarely play any more, I have this huge backlog of stuff I 'have to' play to spite the haters.

 

But on a serious note, I don't care what you play and I'm gonna play whatever I want. *shrug*

[Terminator Force]

And Sinful, I've gotta just say that gimping the Paladin by skipping Snap Freeze strikes me as an act of vandalism.  You say you do these things to keep the game interesting, but I really don't believe you in this instance.  The way you've described "Snap Cheese" as an "I win" button is something of a prejudiced exaggeration,

 

I took fresh new player to Platinum and told one to keep pressing the "I win" Snap Cheese button, while his buddy to keep pressing the "Let me help the I win button" Triple Overload button. Ww did this for 3 matches to help the pugs make some money. Easiest Platinum matches I can recall. Thus I dub thee "The I win button." ... PS, never played with those pugs again. Even refused their invitation afterwards. And I've feel bad for setting them an such a horrible path...

 

 

It's just like spamming an infinite amount of Arc Nades that works great on all defenses + at a glitched x2dps as a bonus. How this cannot be considered broken...

 

EDIT - was born and raised in Romania up till age of 10. So not that much Canadian in me.

[Quarian Master Race]

Fixed.

Eh. If you've a powerful enough, rapid fire weapon and quick enough aim, it is just as fast as anything but the Cain-spam lolTalon against multiple targets. In the few seconds it takes a QMI or Furry to nuke a spawn of mooks with a few arcnades/AF-Throws, a GI can get the same result by PM'ing and emptying a Talon, Hurricane, Harrier or Piranha into it. Admittely, you have to aim a little better, but not much because GI can just bodyshot goddamn near everything to death instantly, and they will all be staggered anyway. Its going to reach a position to do damage faster than the Furry due to greater range afforded by weapons vs AF dependancy, and faster than the QMI due to movement speed.

The difference is, the GI can melt that Atlas, Banshee or Crab much faster when it gets in the way.

[Red Panda]

I am super bad with Drell.

 

Then again, "was" is a better term for it.

[Terminator Force]

Yeah, this game has way too much melting. Especially bosses shouldn't melt. If this game was balanced better, long term players would be playing it longer.

[Lucky]

I know

 

I just want more people to play Diablo and Borderlands with.

 

Hmm, that's actually a fairly tempting excuse to buy it. I'm still playing D3 a lot on my PS3, but there's next to no one else I know on there anymore...

[muy_thaiguy]

GI is only a glass cannon if you play it with no fitness and no shield equipment/gear, which most people don't. 750 base shields is more than most other infiltrators and HM only penalizes base shields (375 points), thus you can either take some fitness or throw a cyclonic on it, and it becomes extremely survivable because it is both tanky and has high movement speed. Alternatively, take all the shield recharge specs and Power Cells 3, and laugh as your shields come back faster than they can be knocked out.

I wouldn't have nearly the same problem with that character if it actually were a glass cannon, but it isn't. It is more survivable than any kit that isn't the AIU or TGI (SI gets a shout against geth) while having more damage output than anything else in the game.

Guess I'll try the cyclonics on him next time. On "squishy" characters, I can usually get by with 3-4 slots in fitness. With him, yeah.

 

People love the Javelin on him. I only have the Javelin 1 (I have horrible luck with packs, I still have yet to get the PPR). Sniping is not my strong point with him. Even running the GPS on him, I struggle to kill things. And with any other kit, I score in the top 2 every match, even with weapon kits. I guess it's just my kryptonite.

[Melee or Die]

Any kit that doesn't do this:

[path0geN7]

I've been trying to wean myself off Geth Scanner lately. Especially on tankier kits that don't die after taking a few shots. I found that I was taking too many unnecessary risks and dying too much with Geth Scanner.

 

I know, I know, I need to l2play and git gud. I'm working on it

[FasterThanFTL]

I have banned myself from banning things.

[Jelena Jankovic]

I don't ban things but there are a few I rarely if ever use

[Homey C-Dawg]

I don't use the Talon Mercenary. Although to be fair, I only don't use him because I don't want him to reset my key config and I don't care enough about him to bother changing my defaults in the coalesced.ini.

 

I don't use Reegar or TGI because they are skill-less noob tubes (unless I feel like noobing it up of course, which I usually don't).

 

I never use the warp/incendiary glitch because it feels like a bit too cheap of an exploit for my tastes.

 

I don't use Cobra missiles except to save teammates from sync kills.

[grailseeker91]

 the only thing that bothers me in this game are cheats and people who don't help with objectives.

I don't like cheaters but at this point the only recourse is to quit and look for a new lobby. As for the don't help with the objectives people, you could always do what I do and decide to not give a damn myself. I have a maxed manifest and almost 255 of every item (if the RNG would stop giving me freakin cryo when I'm already at the limit instead of what actually has gaps then this would become 255 of everything).

 

On the original topic I'll second the play what the hell I want people. If the lobby doesn't like it they can kick me. Aside this refers to kits as I won't purposefully screw with biotics with disrupter ammo or anything that makes the game take longer unless I know the people and I don't like them.

[Jugger nuggss]

Katari

[LuckyStarr]

I don't use Reegar or TGI because they are skill-less noob tubes

I wish I'd get more of those "noob tubes" on Gold instead of crap characters people usually bring (and don't do very well with).