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[kuronue bloodlust]

I mentioned before the CRP scripts were sloppy and I don't know how many times I downloaded a script to find over 100 lines of useless data that was not properly marked. the data was bugging the script. I mention a slight fix that may be more helpful or may be a easer way to echive saod goal only to have someone nagg on me off site for my warning point...

 

ok issue one the warnign point: I did get the post removed form livejournal. the staff there understood the concept of misleabeled warnings and the damage they can cause.  I am smacking myself for not screencaping the post (to hilight this pot was april 2, 2015) only because it would presure the staff more to correct the wording on the point.

 

NOW how I got it, I used profanity that was driected at no one... so... not abusive.

 

Also I was usign the said bad word as a proper noun, I noticed recently that was allowed in the other thread. the action the staff needs to take with my point is to just remove it. is that likely to happen... no... so im stuck with the stigma thanks to someone being whiney about my bad rivews, of their sloppy scripting, on a module with a curseword for a name.

 

Basicly C+ is not the best script to use but its the one NWN understands better. Refrence preexisting scripts if you can if you can't you should be able to have a person to suport you so I am trying to do two things right now

 

ISSUE TWO: The stigma I am forced to carry makes this project a little hostile for me to carry on. Thou I would love to set up the live chat on bioware or the vault itsself somewhere where players can benifit most,  I do not wish the stigma to deture potentual builders because of the fact its mislableed.  I have asked it be corrected multiple times with no result,. I also reviced no symathy for the fact the admin that palced it there seemed to think I literaly found where the guy lived, and gave hima balck eye, as oppose to just blocking him when he turned intoa 5yr old baby about it whitch is what I did.

 

I will admit I did use profanity (thou it was as a proper noun) but I was not abusive abotu it thats inapropreate to stick me with it for this long.

 

Because I have partly given up on getting the wording corrected on my warnign point, I wish to pass the Idea for this project onto someoneelse. I would liek this person to prefably be more skilled then educated, I put more value in the actual outcome than the means by it was done. Sorry for the long winded post but if you want to carry this project on please contact me or post in the forum below.

[Baaleos]

Your post actually hurts my brain.

Thats actually quite the accomplishment since its been proven that the brain itself cannot feel pain.

 

What are you posting about?

 

Are you saying..

You posted elsewhere in this forum, that someone elses script was sloppy- and received a warning for posting said criticism?

If so- Ok.....

 

 

Basicly C+ is not the best script to use but its the one NWN understands better.

 

I have never heard of C+ :

Are you sure you do not mean C++ ?

C++ Is not a scripting language, it is a programming language.

NWScript is a 'spin-off' scripting language (Although it could be argued to be close to a Programming language, due to its compilation requirement) which more closely resembles C#, a member of the C Family (C Family programming languages are all fairly similar)

 

 

ok issue one the warnign point: I did get the post removed form livejournal the staff there understood the concept of misleabeled warnings and the damage they can cause.

 

Why is an event that happened on LiveJournal of relevance here?

 

 

Because I have partly given up on getting the wording corrected on my warnign point I wish to pass the Idea for this project onto someoneelse. I would liek this person to prefably be more skilled then educated, I put more value in the actual outcome than the means by it was done. sorry for the long winded post but if you want to carry this project on please contact me or post in the forum below.

 

Its the end of your post, I still don't know what your talking about....

Someone please help!!

[WhiZard]

The only sources I know of that use the letter combination "crp" are the C.R.A.P. system, the Community Expansion Pack and the Community Patch Project.  Given your observations it seems that you are trying to discuss either the Community Expansion Pack or the C.R.A.P. system.  The community as a whole is not responsible for maintaining projects, so you would need to contact the author or post on the submission page for the vault (which may not get an answer).

 

Your first point is completely the server environment.  This needs to be taken up with the server as it has nothing to do with NWN core resources.

 

Your second point is concerning the forums not the game specifically.  The BioWare forums do allow private messaging.

 

EDIT: added CEP as possibility

[kalbaern]

There is already a place to get scripting help and its on these boards. In fact, you've posted there in the past. http://forum.bioware...ders-scripting/

 

As for live chatting, there are several places one can do that as well. PW Admins and Scripters usually have folks from other PWs or the Community at large within easy reach via Skype, IRC and many other means. Most of us will put aside our personal differences and chip when asked. But you need to also ask and not demand. No one ever gets paid to help here.

 

There's also a scripting section over at : neverwinterconnections.com Nevermind, it isn't finished yet.

[meaglyn]

There's also a scripting section over at : neverwinterconnections.com Nevermind, it isn't finished yet.

You funny man...

[Zwerkules]

Because I have partly given up on getting the wording corrected on my warnign point, I wish to pass the Idea for this project onto someoneelse. I would liek this person to prefably be more skilled then educated, I put more value in the actual outcome than the means by it was done. Sorry for the long winded post but if you want to carry this project on please contact me or post in the forum below.

 

If you need live scripting help, you can use the chat at the new vault. You don't even need an IRC client, the vault has one for you.

There are always people there who will help others with scripting, custom content creation and building.

http://neverwintervault.org/chat

[Fester Pot]

*nods*

 

I must second what Zwekules mentions. The NWVault chat is very helpful, and plenty of times that I've needed scripting help, I've received it from a regular there named henesua.

Cut and pasting parts of scripts into chat is a great way to get a problem looked at - although never paste a full script, you'll get booted by the flood protection - and when a new question crops up, a response is usually not that far behind.

 

Aaaannnd sometimes, if you're lucky, there are cookies!

FP!

[Drewskie]

 

Its the end of your post, I still don't know what your talking about....

 

Someone please help!!

I believe the topic was originally brought up in the elven tree city thread in custom content.  Better here than there I suppose.  

[kamal_]

*nods*

 

I must second what Zwekules mentions. The NWVault chat is very helpful, and plenty of times that I've needed scripting help, I've received it from a regular there named henesua.

Cut and pasting parts of scripts into chat is a great way to get a problem looked at - although never paste a full script, you'll get booted by the flood protection - and when a new question crops up, a response is usually not that far behind.

 

Aaaannnd sometimes, if you're lucky, there are cookies!

FP!

nwn specific pastebin, you can paste your script there and then just provide chat a link to your paste, allowing people to see the full script: http://pastebin.myrror.net/

[kuronue bloodlust]

I should hilight that "Go doanliad this" does not qualify as helping...

[Zwerkules]

Maybe you should read the posts before complaining they aren't what you wanted. They are links to chats and sites that are exactly what you've been asking for which you could have found out if you actually had bothered to check them out. No downloads involved whatsoever.

I don't know why you even bother to ask for help if you keep rejecting every answer you get.

 

I should highlight that whining and complaining doesn't qualify as asking for help.

[kuronue bloodlust]

To clerify this project was to help with advanced scritpting you know the kind of exact effect scripts that the generators can not make. A way to help builders achive the effects they desire in their worlds. Some peopel are detail orented I happen to be one of them. this is why "Go download this" is not considered helping in this instance.

[kuronue bloodlust]

*nods*

 

I must second what Zwekules mentions. The NWVault chat is very helpful, and plenty of times that I've needed scripting help, I've received it from a regular there named henesua.

Cut and pasting parts of scripts into chat is a great way to get a problem looked at - although never paste a full script, you'll get booted by the flood protection - and when a new question crops up, a response is usually not that far behind.

 

Aaaannnd sometimes, if you're lucky, there are cookies!

FP!

to adress the replys NO NO NO and HELL NO

 

first off the vaut scripts are terrible at discribeing themmselfs even now they rewuire better discriptionss and some are filled with so much (dead) no effect scripting and spesfic inserts they qualify uner the "go download this" not working catogory.

 

i went thrutgh 20 arenas to find hte script i wanted and it was actualy isted under monster spawn scrpits there ARE problems with the vault scripts and someone here is not willing to accept that.

 

on the other hand hte generators are just as BAD this is nto about the simple haha stuff the generators can cover or some of the basic scripts this is about ADvanced C+ one scropt one item doing multiple things with one item exc. this is abotu helping player get their desired goal not sending htem soemhwere else and futher furstrating them. another note why is he comenting in my thread after being blocked I will be having talks with a forum admin abotu that. he should Not be allowed to even see my threads!

 

edit: I hate bioware knocking out my brwoser spellcheck on their site

[Zwerkules]

Personne ne dit rien sur les téléchargements.

Niemand zei iets over downloads.

Niemand hat etwas von Downloads gesagt.

Κανείς δεν είπε τίποτα σχετικά με τις λήψεις.

 

I said it in French - I said it in Dutch -
     I said it in German and Greek:
But I wholly forgot (and it vexes me much)
     That English is what you speak!

 

There are no downloads involved. Nobody said anything about downloading scripts from the vault.

The advice given here is to get live script help from experienced people at the vault chat. It's not only NWN1 help, there are also a few NWN2 people there.

[kalbaern]

Personne ne dit rien sur les téléchargements.

Niemand zei iets over downloads.

Niemand hat etwas von Downloads gesagt.

Κανείς δεν είπε τίποτα σχετικά με τις λήψεις.

 

I said it in French - I said it in Dutch -
     I said it in German and Greek:
But I wholly forgot (and it vexes me much)
     That English is what you speak!

I can interpet what the first lines say .. but that fourth one is all greek to me.

 

 

Now to readdress the OP.

 

@kuronue bloodlust:

 

There is scripting help both here on the forums and available -LIVE- on an existing IRC to those choosing to use it as has been explained multiple times already above. Many of us also help each other and others using Skype, Google Talk or other VoIP options, but those are generally with folks we know better and more importantly, with folks we know will appreciate the help, not be demanding, and not be insufferably rude to us. In other words, the project you mentioned in your opening post is something this community has been doing for a good long time already.

 

Here's some tips for folks needing most kinds of assistance here:

 

1 - Be polite in the wording of your posts. Saying things "suck" or are "gargage" may turn folks off.

 

2 - Explain precisely what you want or need. The more precise your post is, the quicker most here can help.

 

3 - Accept that most folks aren't going to "do it all for you", and yes, many times, we'll provide only a code snippet or a link to another resource to help you actually learn to do it yourself. If those asking for help don't show some initiative of their own, sooner or later others will begin to cease assisting them.

 

Good Luck in your endeavors.

[kuronue bloodlust]

I can interpet what the first lines say .. but that fourth one is all greek to me.

 

 

Now to readdress the OP.

 

@kuronue bloodlust:

 

There is scripting help both here on the forums and available -LIVE- on an existing IRC to those choosing to use it as has been explained multiple times already above. Many of us also help each other and others using Skype, Google Talk or other VoIP options, but those are generally with folks we know better and more importantly, with folks we know will appreciate the help, not be demanding, and not be insufferably rude to us. In other words, the project you mentioned in your opening post is something this community has been doing for a good long time already.

 

Here's some tips for folks needing most kinds of assistance here:

 

1 - Be polite in the wording of your posts. Saying things "suck" or are "gargage" may turn folks off.

 

2 - Explain precisely what you want or need. The more precise your post is, the quicker most here can help.

 

3 - Accept that most folks aren't going to "do it all for you", and yes, many times, we'll provide only a code snippet or a link to another resource to help you actually learn to do it yourself. If those asking for help don't show some initiative of their own, sooner or later others will begin to cease assisting them.

 

Good Luck in your endeavors.

That was actualy the start of hte disagreemnt me goign there to seek help with my crafting system I had said i allredy tryed Ulglibligas  and earler int eh thread mentioned it was far too bulky for me to use and the others offered were eather additions or trash becuase they were quite literaly a rescript of nwn scripts to allow BS damage added to armor.

 

since than aa certin smeoen has been agitating me and his buddies have taken every advnatgae they can to shove my disablity in my face and generaly caused a massive ethics dispuit than has a few of my friends livid at the person they knwo is responcible. (not me btw I asked politely for him to remove himself from the thread because hte gerators were not working for the scripts i needed (mounts and crafting btw) and all he was doing was DONWLOAD THIS it will solve everything and THIS was just another generator taht didnt do as i desired or a script that was a alfure in a similuar fassion it was a case of he was not listenign to me whitch is why i wanted him to leave that was warning point no1 when i finnaly told him i am not after PRC horses becase of the bs they do with makeing scripts hack bassed makes it impossible to get the right script to work or fix broken ones present in teh system plus java no workie well for nwn that was half the problem right there)

 

after than i blocked him and left to work on life issues warnign no2 was when i got tired of seeing him post evereywhere i did again his buddies in toe with teh same humilating demeaner and the same bully behavior. (i actualy ahd an emotional breakdown on skye and it pissed off my texture mentor a guy that works for dreamworks who has been helping me with my imvu projects)

 

now you see why I want to make this project one on one so players can develop trust with soem developers and developerswho are experinced can laern what it is the player wants. I have to live every day with a daisablity and i will have to continue to live with that disablity and here I am sorry but The forums here block my browser's spellsheck so I cant correct the things as well. last thing i really need is THAT shoved in my face any futher than it allredy is.

[kalbaern]

"You can take a horse to water, but you can't make him drink".

[kuronue bloodlust]

"You can take a horse to water, but you can't make him drink".

it of course helps when you are leading hte horse to water and not mud.

 

th poit was I tryed tried and tryed again only to get the "Download this" and the this was not what i wanted and didnt help so it was a waste of time or worse counterproductive.

[ehye_khandee]

Friend kuronue bloodlust,

Not everyone will have a perfect understanding of what it is you desire. Language can be a barrier, but one we can navigate around with patience. With imperfect understanding, you must anticipate that some of the suggested 'fixes' will be less than optimal. Patience is key. With time and a carefully crafted dialog, you can and will find the one on one help you desire on a case-by-case basis (no one mentor can help you with every detail you wish to learn, most of us specialize in some way).

 

Best wishes to you on your projects.

[kuronue bloodlust]

Friend kuronue bloodlust,

Not everyone will have a perfect understanding of what it is you desire. Language can be a barrier, but one we can navigate around with patience. With imperfect understanding, you must anticipate that some of the suggested 'fixes' will be less than optimal. Patience is key. With time and a carefully crafted dialog, you can and will find the one on one help you desire on a case-by-case basis (no one mentor can help you with every detail you wish to learn, most of us specialize in some way).

 

Best wishes to you on your projects.

when my pacents gets ME punisshed I stop being misss nice girl. but yes that was another reason. FYI a firend that usally hounds me whem im terrible considerd the incodentss to be one sided signs of ethicss violations  I thought probably because of the spesfic label chosen and I have brought it up before the label was inapropreate.

 

I thought he was refering to the label but he said hte reports in general; they never bothered to ask my side of things and he was right too one sided so no more play nice (since he isnt).

 

I tryed explaining to him how he was bothering me he ignored me and reported it so now im not gonna deal with it anymore.

 

IN redardss to scriptors that is right some things must be learned however download this is not even trying to teach anyone anything and it IS a issue with the forums. oeoe so blindly promote their own sirpts or scrips of a firend did you know I can't find an horse script other thean PRC and I think hack imbedded scripting is not just terrible but a very bad thing to put in your server. what if the scropt becomes crrupted by a item or another addition or in general there is literaly NO way to fix it. (that kindof what teh prc is now actualy they have numberiosu buggs on the main line of hte summons script for the mounts the way its written they missed a few // to cancel a segment)

 

About the crafting scripts same problem the best one thou is far too large, it would take too log for players to master it. I had something much simpler less hastle no memory needed in mind.

 

these are small examples of things players might want to do their self to ensure they can repair them if they become crrupted or don't work right. they may even want something more eassly altered or may want to refrence standard toolset items. this is considered providing more of a soicial aspect so i rarely see how its difficult to understand a builder looking for somethignvery spesfic just needs the right questions asked.

 

(edit: what a terrible auto correct system bad enough my keyboard is broken)

Modifié par kuronue bloodlust, 21 avril 2015 - 09:21 .

[BioWareMod03]

Greetings everyone. Let's try keep the discussion civil and on topic. Thank you.

[kalbaern]

I'd just like to point out that in the past week or so, dozens of new folks have visited the chat room on the new vault and received assistance with issues ranging from reloading/updating their games, creating custom content and yes ... even scripting. Often times the "regulars" may be AFK, but for those willing to wait a few minutes, its often worth the time.

 

http://neverwintervault.org/chat

[Savagefool]

Agreed on that, the chat is actually fantastic.

I was gonna read Koronoues posts but they're so hard to translate back into actual English aha

[kuronue bloodlust]

Agreed on that, the chat is actually fantastic.

I was gonna read Koronoues posts but they're so hard to translate back into actual English aha

what part of "keyboard is borken" missed your reading?