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[SACanuckin Oz]

In 2010 I bought DA:Origins Legendary Edition (including all 4 DLC) for $29, which led to over a year of amazing adventures in Ferelden (and elsewhere given the ability to install mods). The story was deep, characters complex, and the different origins invited multiple playthroughs to experience all the variety the game had to offer.

 

In 2012 I bought DA 2 for $49, which offered a (much) shorter campaign, starring one main character, with one background, less complex companions (and mostly less likeable too, but that's debatable obviously). It was pretty much saved for me by the one great DLC (where you first meet Corypheus), and to a lesser extend by the Tallis DLC. The Corypheus battle was epic. I could (eventually) customize many aspects of my gaming experience via the great modding community (which let me dress my companions as I preferred, etc.)

 

In 2013 I bough Skyrim for $59, and added the 2 DLCs via Steam for another $20, which gave me over a year of a fantastic gaming experience in Tamriel - rich and long main quest, multiple, multiple deep side quests, the ability to follow my own path, etc. And thanks to the modding community, that journey is still there for the taking, and experiencing.

 

In 2015 I bought DA Inquisition for $89 (incl the DLC giving the hideous mount and fairly useless armour and weapon items), which gives me a one start, multiple race choices (and yet the pc is very similar in all aspects), the ability to choose my class (which is then locked for the whole game),  and mostly completely avoidable and utterly meaningless side quests.

 

What gives? So for a lot more money, I get a lot less from EA-Bioware than I did back in 2010 and 2012!

 

In fact, let me correct myself: I feel very ripped off! I'm sure you hear this all the time Bioware, and likely don't care one whit, but don't expect me back for DA 4 or whatever.

 

Edit: Unless, off course, you manage to salvage this game which needs MORE (of meaningful stuff), and get back to the roots of what made Dragon Age games so enjoyable. It's not the arcade style running around the zones picking herbs, believe me

[Just My Moniker]

[Saphiron123]

Way to dump on someone posting in a feedback forum just to be mean.

OP, I agree with you. I miss bioware's focus on story and didn't love the mmorpg elements.

[CDR Aedan Cousland]

 

"No one said you could talk, jackass."

--Zaeed Massani, 2185

[Just My Moniker]

Way to dump on someone posting in a feedback forum just to be mean.

OP, I agree with you. I miss bioware's focus on story and didn't love the mmorpg elements.

OPs post is neither feedback nor constructive. Just a rant about how DAI doesn't meet his/her standards.

 

I don't care that he/she doesn't like it. That's up to personal preference. But if you hate the game so much and don't even plan to get DA4, whats the point of posting here?

 

If OP had just wanted his/her opinions heard about an aspect of the game he/she wanted changed, but still enjoyed the game, then I'd be fine with it, but it clearly isn't.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

With how currency has inflated over the past couple decades, games should really be costing around $100 instead of $60 they still charge.

So really we are getting a bargain from the game companies. 

[CDR Aedan Cousland]

OPs post is neither feedback nor constructive. Just a rant about how DAI doesn't meet his/her standards.

 

I don't care that he/she doesn't like it. That's up to personal preference. But if you hate the game so much and don't even plan to get DA4, whats the point of posting here?

 

If OP had just wanted his/her opinions heard about an aspect of the game he/she wanted changed, but still enjoyed the game, then I'd be fine with it, but it clearly isn't.

 

That doesn't excuse you being rude AF, especially when you're being nonconstructive, yourself.

[CDR Aedan Cousland]

Yes!  Thank you!  I've mentioned several times on multiple forums how game prices were basically frozen for top tier titles for a long time.  I was buying games for $49 back in 1990.  The price more or less stayed there for two decades before it started slowly creeping up again.  Game prices are a huge bargain.

 

That's a good point, but it still doesn't make DAI worth its price, IMO.

[Just My Moniker]

That doesn't excuse you being rude AF, especially when you're being nonconstructive, yourself.

 

So you admit that OP is nonconstructive then? Then what harm is there being in my being non-constructive?

 

Also "Rude AF" .......If thats what you consider extremely rude then you must have a pretty good life 

[Domiel Angelus]

In 2010 I bought DA:Origins Legendary Edition (including all 4 DLC) for $29, which led to over a year of amazing adventures in Ferelden (and elsewhere given the ability to install mods). The story was deep, characters complex, and the different origins invited multiple playthroughs to experience all the variety the game had to offer.

 

In 2012 I bought DA 2 for $49, which offered a (much) shorter campaign, starring one main character, with one background, less complex companions (and mostly less likeable too, but that's debatable obviously). It was pretty much saved for me by the one great DLC (where you first meet Corypheus), and to a lesser extend by the Tallis DLC. The Corypheus battle was epic. I could (eventually) customize many aspects of my gaming experience via the great modding community (which let me dress my companions as I preferred, etc.)

 

In 2013 I bough Skyrim for $59, and added the 2 DLCs via Steam for another $20, which gave me over a year of a fantastic gaming experience in Tamriel - rich and long main quest, multiple, multiple deep side quests, the ability to follow my own path, etc. And thanks to the modding community, that journey is still there for the taking, and experiencing.

 

In 2015 I bought DA Inquisition for $89 (incl the DLC giving the hideous mount and fairly useless armour and weapon items), which gives me a one start, multiple race choices (and yet the pc is very similar in all aspects), the ability to choose my class (which is then locked for the whole game),  and mostly completely avoidable and utterly meaningless side quests.

 

What gives? So for a lot more money, I get a lot less from EA-Bioware than I did back in 2010 and 2012!

 

In fact, let me correct myself: I feel very ripped off! I'm sure you hear this all the time Bioware, and likely don't care one whit, but don't expect me back for DA 4 or whatever.

 

Edit: Unless, off course, you manage to salvage this game which needs MORE (of meaningful stuff), and get back to the roots of what made Dragon Age games so enjoyable. It's not the arcade style running around the zones picking herbs, believe me

 

First question: Do you mean the Ultimate Edition? There is no Legendary edition unless it was some exclusive Origins-PC only version. Also you bought it in 2010, after the game had been out a full year, so you didn't even pay full price then.

 

Second: you're complaining about getting less based on content because of the side-quests being inconsequential in the latest title but you don't bring up that your big decisions in DA2 are completely ignored based on the following: Your mother dies no matter how the Kirkwall Killer is dealt with, Anders will always blow up the Chantry no matter how you handle it and both Orsino and Meredith cop out to force the breaking of the Circles to push the Summit at the start of Inquisition. You seem to be fine with the vast majority of your 'choices' having no meaning in that game, so why are you so annoyed over the extraneous content being about as useful as ****** on a bull (Not even Iron Bull needed moobs that big.)  

 

Third: Don't argue with bringing Skyrim into the skirmish. The Elder Scrolls series has always defeated other series based on sheer content alone. Only about one third of which in Skyrim are better than: Random "I need that book" Dragonborn "But its five feet away". You're arguing by using a game that's always been a sandbox against a series that's just attempting sandbox play for the first time. That's not a fair meter stick in any contest. 

 

Four: Your class was locked in the previous two games as well, Bioware allowed you to shift your class in Mass Effect not Dragon Age. If you want to respec you can with an item, and you get stuck with whatever weapons they say fit the role: sword and board plus 2hs/ dual wielding+archery or staves, they removed ability to have Warriors use all weapons because they sort of made other classes redundant when a Warrior was a better Archer and had better survival. 

 

Five: We got a game that the publisher and the creator deemed safe, they didn't want to repeat the folly of Mass Effect and the Color Coded Death Beams. 

 

Six: We also got a semi-decent multiplayer component which although not nearly implemented the way people were asking for its at least a side step near the right direction. 

[TaHol]

OPs post is neither feedback nor constructive. Just a rant about how DAI doesn't meet his/her standards.

 

I don't care that he/she doesn't like it. That's up to personal preference. But if you hate the game so much and don't even plan to get DA4, whats the point of posting here?

 

If OP had just wanted his/her opinions heard about an aspect of the game he/she wanted changed, but still enjoyed the game, then I'd be fine with it, but it clearly isn't.

So, only those who enjoyed the game has right to post in this forum so you wouldn't be upset? So how about you look again the gif you posted because clearly you posted it to yourself.

[Elleria]

OPs post is neither feedback nor constructive. Just a rant about how DAI doesn't meet his/her standards.

 

I don't care that he/she doesn't like it. That's up to personal preference. But if you hate the game so much and don't even plan to get DA4, whats the point of posting here?

 

If OP had just wanted his/her opinions heard about an aspect of the game he/she wanted changed, but still enjoyed the game, then I'd be fine with it, but it clearly isn't.

OP has every right to post in this forum just like you have the right to reply period. You, on the other hand, posting a gif be it as sarcasm or not, is pretty rude and doesn't provide any constructive reply at all.

Personally, I do find OP post pretty constructive, detailing his journey, where obviously he found great interest in DA:O to where he's at DA:I. I can understand his dissapointment, given the high standards that were raised in Dragon Age Origins as well as Skyrim and the fact that many of us(including OP I believe) have been spoilt by the rich mods that alters the game completely to a much higher degree.

 

I cannot give my comments on DA:I myself yet as I just started playing, but I already met with one of the greatest dissapointment RPG open world and that is the very lack of hairstyles, especially to female characters! I mean, why there are so many bald hairstyles??

[Just My Moniker]

So, only those who enjoyed the game has right to post in this forum so you wouldn't be upset? So how about you look again the gif you posted because clearly you posted it to yourself.

1. "So only those who enjoyed the game have the right to post in this forum" Do you mean specifically the "Feedback" part of the forum? If so, then kinda. If, like the OP, you don't like the game and don't plan on getting the next one, what point do you have in posting here?

 

2. "So you wouldn't be upset" Where did I say that? I made fun of the OP because I have fun mocking people who post useless, inane dribble like this. (Note, I don't do that to people who are trying to be constructive.)

 

3." So how about you look again the gif you posted because clearly you posted it to yourself. " 

Spoiler

 

That doesn't make any sense.

[CDR Aedan Cousland]

1. "So only those who enjoyed the game have the right to post in this forum" Do you mean specifically the "Feedback" part of the forum? If so, then kinda. If, like the OP, you don't like the game and don't plan on getting the next one, what point do you have in posting here?

 

Read OP's edit. This isn't just some dramatic flouncing post. Unless the series is redeemed, he won't get the next installment.

 

Also, whether this thread is useless or not depends on one's perspective, but your childish "mockery" isn't shaming the OP in any way--it's just making you look like a jerk.

 

And finally, any amount of rudeness, in my eyes, is too much. Stow the tumblr gifs.

[Just My Moniker]

Read OP's edit. This isn't just some dramatic flouncing post. Unless the series is redeemed, he won't get the next installment.

 

Also, whether this thread is useless or not depends on one's perspective, but your childish "mockery" isn't shaming the OP in any way--it's just making you look like a jerk.

 

And finally, any amount of rudeness, in my eyes, is too much. Stow the tumblr gifs.

 

Whatever. This was fun for a few minutes at least.

 

[Lethaya]

To be fair, you bought DA:O some time after release, not at its original full price, and by that point they had released a version with all its intended DLC. By comparison, you bought DA:I at full price, and DLC is still in development.

 

I don't think its the time for a fair comparison yet, really. Once the DA:I equivalent of the Ultimate Edition releases, though...!

 

I still have hope for the future DLC, personally. And I've spent just as much time in DA:I than I did in previous installments - while the game isn't perfect (DA:O and DA2 weren't either), Bioware did make improvements and try new things, and I can respect that. I enjoyed the cast and the story, so I can overlook the flaws easier for that. Hopefully they can learn from DA:I and improve on more recent additions in future installments. *shrugs*

[Lady Artifice]

As Hanako pointed out, inflation is an important factor to consider. Changing prices is to be expected, especially considering recent economic events.

[Terodil]

I can understand the OP. I share the same disappointment. Whatever its price, DA:I is a shell of BW's former glory, a husk fashioned into the likeness of Skyrim. If I'd known about this beforehand, I would not have bought it. The asking price is not that much, and, considering that I did play for a lot of hours, more than fair. My own time however... that's where I tend to feel cheated.

 

I think this is important feedback, even if it's difficult to swallow. BiowEAr needs to stop trying to chase after market trends like a headless chicken, and remember their own, traditional strengths that lie in fashioning a fascinating, emotionally engaging, deep storyline with an emphasis on choices and complex, likable companions. To hell with sandbox, open world etc., bring back the excellent writing that birthed KoTOR, DA:O+AW, ME, and many other timeless classics. In three years, the currently stunning graphics of DA:I will have withered like an apple. What will be left? Bitter seeds. But these seeds can grow into something beautiful if Bioware gets back on track and nurtures them with care and love and the confidence that the fruit the apple tree will bear will taste fantastic, regardless of whether the neighbour sells tons of bland-tasting pears in the meantime.

 

To the unfunny dude with the addiction to memes and gifs... how about an oldschool /facedesk.

[sleeping heart]

yeah. I really regret pre-ordering/buying this game myself. it's probably the most boring game i've ever played. I'm never pre-ordering a bioware game again, but rather or not i'm gonna get DA4 I can't say. I'm ganna have to wait till after release when there is a lot of reviews and i can get a feel of what the game is, if it's simular to DA:I hell no.

 

 

OPs post is neither feedback nor constructive. Just a rant about how DAI doesn't meet his/her standards.

 

I don't care that he/she doesn't like it. That's up to personal preference. But if you hate the game so much and don't even plan to get DA4, whats the point of posting here?

 

If OP had just wanted his/her opinions heard about an aspect of the game he/she wanted changed, but still enjoyed the game, then I'd be fine with it, but it clearly isn't.

 

Fans saying they regret buying your game is feedback in and of itself.

[caradoc2000]

What gives? So for a lot more money, I get a lot less from EA-Bioware than I did back in 2010 and 2012!

As has been pointed out, DAO wasn't 29 dollars on day one. Consequently, it is hardly fair to compare DAO's discount price to DAI's full price.

 

As to the game content itself, can't really help you there. Some people prefer DAO regardless of the price and that is their prerogative.

[Dubya75]

 

Massive jerk response there, Moniker. 

 

OP - totally agree with you. Bioware definitely ripped us for with this game, and even more so the PC version.

 

Best course of action as you said, is to stop buying Bioware games. That is certainly what I am doing.

Dragon Age games took a dive for the worst after the brilliant DAO.

[Teddie Sage]

Gotta agree with the others, Moniker. It was rude of you to do that. Next time something annoys you, simply ignore it and move along.

[Inex]

I think DA:I is a good game. Lately i'm not going by how much the game cost me, but how much of fun i'm having per time spent. You see, i have money but time to play is very limited. Of course that doesn't mean i would buy any game for $60 or more.

 

I definitely had more fun per time spent playing the games OP mentioned (DA:O, DA:2 and skyrim). Though I do feel a bit ripped off when i see ME2 is sitting in my origin account with ~100 hours of play and DA:I is ~160 hours, because i had A LOT MORE FUN in 100 hours of ME2 than i did in 160 hours of DA:I.

 

I'll be more cautious in future Bioware releases. Probably wait for a 50% discount or not buy it at all.