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[MyKingdomCold]

The only one that bothers me (every time) is in that first discussion with Josephine and her pronunciation of Celene (or, in this case, Seh-len)'s name. I mean, jeez Josie, I thought you were supposed on top of the political stuff? XD

 

Is that the only time she pronounces it that way so she's inconsistent? I haven't really noticed.  If not, I don't see what the big deal is since maybe the VA just pronounces it that way in real life.  For example, I know people, Australians, who pronounce Bernard as Bernerd whereas I don't pronounce it that way.  Are they wrong? Am I wrong?

[Kantr]

How can you not say the L in Balm? If I say to someone I want lip bam I'll get funny looks.

 

Same if I say Sahv instead of Salve

[MyKingdomCold]

I pronounce the "L" in balm.

 

But according to this link pronouncing it without the L is also correct. I guess different regions have different pronounciations. Who knew?

 

http://www.merriam-w...dictionary/balm

[NextGenCowboy]

How can you not say the L in Balm? If I say to someone I want lip bam I'll get funny looks.

 

Same if I say Sahv instead of Salve

 

This goes back to regional accents and shibboleths. Where I'm from, for example, Water is pronounced Wadder, with the T extended into a double D sound.

 

As I said in the accents thread, I'm also from an area that, along with the Mid-Western U.S., is considered to have one of the lightest accent in the U.S. Even then there are little things that make regions sound different from one another.

 

The other issue at play here is, British English, and American English have different pronunciations, and there are clearly a mix of voice actors from the U.S., Canada, and Europe. Then there regional differentiations between those of the European voice cast.

 

Machinations. Perhaps the most noticeable things in the whole game with the different VAs sounds as foreign to me as Marquis being pronounced Mar-Kweas, instead of Mar-Ke, but again, just like Machinations, both are valid.

 

Much like the OP, Markweas (via Final Fantasy XII) used to make me shake my head. Until I looked it up and realized it was actually correct.

 

Edit: Also, Balm with L is pronounced as Bomb, so it's not really as awkward as just dropping the L all together.

[Steelcan]

everyone should speak the one true dialect, that of the American South

 

come to the y'all side

[NextGenCowboy]

Better make that switch to Modern Southern Right Quick, y'hear?

[Wulfram]

If we're calling people "Comte" instead of "Count", it probably should be Mar-ke

[NextGenCowboy]

It is Mar-ke for the most part. A couple characters use the Mar-kweas pronunciation, I believe Josie is the most prominent. Easily explained due to: Her time in Antiva, her role as an Ambassador, and her accent anyway.

[Lethaya]

Is that the only time she pronounces it that way so she's inconsistent? I haven't really noticed.  If not, I don't see what the big deal is since maybe the VA just pronounces it that way in real life.  For example, I know people, Australians, who pronounce Bernard as Bernerd whereas I don't pronounce it that way.  Are they wrong? Am I wrong?

 

I think so, yes. And wrong, nah. Buuut at the same time, as a character that's supposed to be very aware of the political playing field, including the players themselves, and considering how many times we hear it pronounced the way I'm guessing Celene prefers it to be, you'd have thought Josie would've picked up the difference? XD It just kinda reminds me that it's a VA talking, and not the character themselves, I guess. Kinda breaks the immersion for a second.

[SofaJockey]

It's most noticeable with names which have a specific pronunciation.

 

Rion (the elementalist mage) being both:

• Ryan, and
• Ree-on

But hey, VA in the studio with a long script and an unfamiliar word or two...

No biggie.

[BansheeOwnage]

The only one that bothers me (every time) is in that first discussion with Josephine and her pronunciation of Celene (or, in this case, Seh-len)'s name. I mean, jeez Josie, I thought you were supposed on top of the political stuff? XD

Actually, she's saying it correctly. I'm surprised she, Vivienne and Leliana don't always say Celène, given their diplomatic position and Orlesian backgrounds. Either way, saying it one way then another is annoying.

[happy_daiz]

I notice these things, too. The big one in my book is the pronounciation of "Thedas".
 
Why on earth (or Thedas) can't that be consistent? I mean, it's where everyone in the game lives. Everyone. Wouldn't they be in some kind of agreement about how to say it? Maybe? Nevermind, I answered my own question. 
 
 
Also, I just saw this on the wiki. I had no idea.
 

The name was originally an acronym used on the BioWare Dragon Age forums. It stands for "THE" "D"ragon "A"ge "S"etting.

[In Exile]

 

Edit: Also, Balm with L is pronounced as Bomb, so it's not really as awkward as just dropping the L all together.

I take your point entirely - I think this is the correct for at least in Eastern Canada - but only now do I realize this a pronunciation meant to not pronounce the "L" rather than just a funny way of saying the L. 

[In Exile]

I notice these things, too. The big one in my book is the pronounciation of "Thedas".
 
Why on earth (or Thedas) can't that be consistent? I mean, it's where everyone in the game lives. Everyone. Wouldn't they be in some kind of agreement about how to say it? Maybe? Nevermind, I answered my own question. 
 
 
Also, I just saw this on the wiki. I had no idea.
 

 

Yup! It used to be TheDAS or the DAS.

[BansheeOwnage]

"Comte" bugs me because in French, you're supposed to use "on" for the "on/om" sound unless it's succeeded by a P. So it really should be "conte". Get it together, French!

 

Edit: Interesting about the Thedas abbreviation. I didn't know that!

[MissMayhem96]

Lavellan is also pronounced two different ways. I believe Josephine says it like "LAV-EL-LAN" and Cullen says "LA-VEL-EN"

[MyKingdomCold]

That's not really a big deal or anything though.  It's just another example of people from different regions pronouncing things differently like my earlier example of Bernard (Bernard/Bernerd). 

[BansheeOwnage]

That's not really a big deal or anything though.  It's just another example of people from different regions pronouncing things differently like my earlier example of Bernard (Bernard/Bernerd). 

That wasn't the only example though.

[MyKingdomCold]

To be honest, I haven't really noticed. Is it inconsistent as in the same person pronounces something differently at different times? If not, who really cares? It's not like there is always one "correct" way to pronounce something.

[SofaJockey]

To be honest, I haven't really noticed. Is it inconsistent as in the same person pronounces something differently at different times? If not, who really cares? It's not like there is always one "correct" way to pronounce something.

 

There is for a name.

This classic quote explains:

 

[MyKingdomCold]

eh, does that mean we need to pronounce Spanish names like fluent Spanish speakers pronounce it? Or Arabic speakers? Or Chinese speakers?  I mean sure you can be an ass about someone "mispronouncing" your name, but at the end of the day who really cares?

[SofaJockey]

eh, does that mean we need to pronounce Spanish names like fluent Spanish speakers pronounce it? Or Arabic speakers? Or Chinese speakers?  I mean sure you can be an ass about someone "mispronouncing" your name, but at the end of the day who really cares?

 

Not the end of the world, but courtesy suggests that if I meet someone called Juan and I pronounce their name 'Joo-an' and am corrected to 'Hu-wan' that I pronounce it so. I do not need to adopt a spanish accent to do so.

 

Similarly, for Inquisitor Lavellan, of "LAV-EL-LAN" and "LA-VEL-EN", one is correct and one is not.

To correct an error is not being an ass and to ask for the correct pronunciation is simple courtesy, particularly with unfamiliar names such as the Dalish.

[MyKingdomCold]

I know. I guess I just don't really see it as being that big of a deal. Not to be argumentative or anything, but with "Juan", I wasn't thinking about "Juan".   I was thinking more along the lines of Spanish words/last names that require you to roll your R's for it to be correct.  That sound isn't used in English, so if I were to pronounce that person's name I wouldn't roll the R's even though it's "incorrect" not to do so.

[SofaJockey]

I know. I guess I just don't really see it as being that big of a deal. Not to be argumentative or anything, but with "Juan", I wasn't thinking about "Juan".   I was thinking more along the lines of Spanish words/last names that require you to roll your R's for it to be correct.  That sound isn't used in English, so if I were to pronounce that person's name I wouldn't roll the R's even though it's "incorrect" not to do so.

 

You're not wrong, I always had trouble getting my tongue around my 'R's... 

I guess it's about the attempt within the speaker's accent set.

 

On topic, the correct answer to Lavellan is (courtesy of Patrick Weekes): LAH-vell-AHN.

 

And I am not particularly troubled by variations in how 'non-names' are pronounced as proposed in the OP.